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San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« on: January 01, 2016, 03:00:06 AM »

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2016, 10:14:46 AM »
Wow, good to hear.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2016, 08:49:59 AM »
nice.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 09:18:44 AM »
I sent an email to Craig Teal about this, because I'm not sure I'll make the meeting... I used to live off of River Oaks Rd, east of Hendricks. While I lived there, my neighbor, Charlie Wilson, was killed after being struck by a car while crossing Hendricks:

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2013-03-22/story/pedestrian-killed-friday-accident-jacksonville-identified-retired-police

After this happened, I often look at this area while walking or driving through and wonder what would be changed to improve safety. One thing that I keep going back to is the speed limit. Right now The limit changes from 40 to 30 right before the split between San Marco square, or Hendricks continuing North.

I'd like to see this project look at moving that limit change further South, perhaps between Lorimier & River Oaks, or even closer to Dunsford, where the complex intersection of San Jose/Brookwood/Hendricks is.

I realize that people are going to continue to speed through here, and ultimately it's an enforcement issue to do anything about that, but I kind of feel like the drop in speed limit is a signal to motorists that they are entering an area of concern. I don't know what options there are, but perhaps a "High Pedestrian Activity" warning or something like it would also help drive home the point.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2016, 11:52:41 AM »
This is a great opportunity to add transit lanes or at least HOV/Transit lanes. This BTW is probably what JAX should go for on the 'ALMOST BRT' system as bus headways are not close enough to warrant shutting down two complete lanes on Blanding, Hendricks etc. Hopefully they illuminate all crosswalks with LEDS, and on demand flasher, as well as shut down turns on red until the pedestrian zone is clear.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2016, 02:04:26 PM »
I'd like to see the reduce the travel lane width. I believe that most of this stretch is 12 ft.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2016, 02:45:08 PM »
I'd like to see the reduce the travel lane width. I believe that most of this stretch is 12 ft.

that will surely be happening....the new state standard in urban areas is 11'.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 04:32:08 PM »
Remove parking and add a bike line: doesn't that result in a roadway that looks more "open" and encourages higher speeds? Does this stretch of road really need 2 lanes each way all day?

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2016, 04:55:04 PM »
Remove parking and add a bike line: doesn't that result in a roadway that looks more "open" and encourages higher speeds? Does this stretch of road really need 2 lanes each way all day?

I agree.  If the bike lanes don't have a grade separation or some sort of physical divider, I think people will just use these as right turn lanes.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2016, 09:27:45 PM »
Remove parking and add a bike line: doesn't that result in a roadway that looks more "open" and encourages higher speeds? Does this stretch of road really need 2 lanes each way all day?

I agree.  If the bike lanes don't have a grade separation or some sort of physical divider, I think people will just use these as right turn lanes.

the wider buffered bike lanes that are now the FDOT standard include a double white line, which is illegal to cross.  Reducing the lane widths and installing a raised median will help with safety and slow traffic.  Enforcement will be key.

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Re: San Marco's Hendricks Avenue Targeted For Improvements
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 11:46:42 AM »
Reducing the lane widths and installing a raised median will help with safety and slow traffic.

Are those two things part of the plan, or your recommendations?

Seems you could get the level of service you need during peak hours with 3 (2 lanes in dominant direction) or 4 lanes, then turn those outer lanes into parking during off-peak to keep the traffic calm. Riverplace has had this on the north side of the road, without the bike lanes.

Bikeway, protection, parking/peak travel lane, travel lane, centerline: