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Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« on: October 13, 2015, 03:00:02 AM »

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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2015, 09:22:51 AM »
How'd you like Reno overall, Lake? We had the chance to move there but turned it down.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 09:44:09 AM »
It was a different experience for me, downtown wasn't really lively but once you go inside the casino hotels you see why. Those things are like mini malls....all connected and focusing to themselves. Overall, Reno seemed like an up and coming community and it should get a big boost with the new Tesla Gigafactory and the 6,500 jobs it will create next year.

It has a different vibe and change of pace from the Southeast but cool in its own right.  Instead of beaches and natural greenery, you get mountains, casinos and whitewater rapids with the Truckee River. Lake Tahoe being close by and Reno being only 2 hours away from Sacramento also helps. Also, I was not aware of Burning Man (http://burningman.org/) until this particular trip. It seems like something worth going back to experience at least once in life.
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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2015, 11:59:00 AM »
It was a different experience for me, downtown wasn't really lively but once you go inside the casino hotels you see why. Those things are like mini malls....all connected and focusing to themselves. Overall, Reno seemed like an up and coming community and it should get a big boost with the new Tesla Gigafactory and the 6,500 jobs it will create next year.

It has a different vibe and change of pace from the Southeast but cool in its own right.  Instead of beaches and natural greenery, you get mountains, casinos and whitewater rapids with the Truckee River. Lake Tahoe being close by and Reno being only 2 hours away from Sacramento also helps. Also, I was not aware of Burning Man (http://burningman.org/) until this particular trip. It seems like something worth going back to experience at least once in life.

Yeah, seems about what we thought. We've flirted with moving to the desert or mountains somewhere out west for a while. I know there's all types of smaller communities in those states that you never hear about (Durango CO was another one), but are really cool in their own right, neat downtowns, etc. But then you better like it because there's pretty much nothing else for miles & miles in every direction. Not sure if everyone could adjust to that.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2015, 12:27:06 PM »
One of my old friends just moved his family to Reno from the Bay Area for work. Sounds like it's been a bit of a getting used to. I told them we were hoping to get them back to Florida, and that will be a much easier sell from Reno than from the Bay Area.
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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2015, 12:48:53 PM »
I was in Durango CO recently. There is plenty to see and do nearby, IF you like National Parks and such.  Big city stuff, is further away.  That said, Durango itself is indeed impressive. 
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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2015, 01:04:24 PM »
^Yeah, it looks cool as hell, everybody bikes, cool landscape surrounding their downtown, etc. I heard it can also be a rough life too if you're not making decent bank (like $100k) w a steady job. I guess since places like that are so small there's not a ton of living options. I think people moving from California jacks it up too.

I'm also not sure if I could handle the winters now either (FL's def got me spoiled). I've learned I don't really need a big city that much though so that part doesn't bother me. As long as a place isn't a total shithole I'm fine.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015, 01:28:00 PM »
I was in Durango CO recently. There is plenty to see and do nearby, IF you like National Parks and such.  Big city stuff, is further away.  That said, Durango itself is indeed impressive. 

I lived in Durango for about 4 months (in 2006) and it was great.  The downtown is small, but it has a lot of great places for food/drink/gear shopping.  All day you get out in nature (I was there to lead climbing trips, so that was a plus) and then in the evenings everybody congregates downtown.   It would be tough to make a permanent life out there, but I loved my experience.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2015, 04:56:02 PM »
I was in Durango CO recently. There is plenty to see and do nearby, IF you like National Parks and such.  Big city stuff, is further away.  That said, Durango itself is indeed impressive. 

I lived in Durango for about 4 months (in 2006) and it was great.  The downtown is small, but it has a lot of great places for food/drink/gear shopping.  All day you get out in nature (I was there to lead climbing trips, so that was a plus) and then in the evenings everybody congregates downtown.   It would be tough to make a permanent life out there, but I loved my experience.

I have been to countless mountain towns out west (pretty much every year I go somewhere out there) but I have never lived in one.  My brother has lived in several.  Telluride, Vail, Mammoth, Ca.  and my cousin lives in Whitefish, MT.  From talking to them it does indeed sound like it is rather difficult to make it a permanent home due to the lack of jobs and tons of competition for the few good ones.  The cool little mountain towns that allow you to hike and climb and ski whenever you want are very attractive to a lot of people so think about how much competition there would be for the few good jobs in town.  They generally don't really grow either, the economy is based more on tourism and hospitality.  If you can find a job in that area that's great, but don't expect it to be a very high paying job.  My cousin had to go to grad school before she could apply for a librarian position at a local school in Whitefish.  Pretty ridiculous.  But her and her husband are still there and are making it work, just hard work.  My brother ended up moving away from the mountain towns for a better job.  Reno would obviously have more jobs but I've been and it doesn't have that same feel that the cool mountain towns have.
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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2015, 09:09:37 AM »
Great and insightful article, as usual. Since Jax will soon have it's own BRT, I'm curious if you were able to check out Reno's. Did it save time? Was it crowded or utilized a lot? And was it used by people that were not typically public transit dependent?

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Re: Jacksonville vs Reno: Recapturing The Magic
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2015, 10:09:24 AM »
^To be honest, I was underwhelmed when I finally found it. During the conference, there was some promotional material that mentioned Reno had a new BRT system. For some reason, I thought the corridor it ran on would be "branded" a bit more. I went looking for dedicated lanes, BRT stations,etc., similar to what I had experienced in Cleveland. I couldn't find the corridor randomly walking through downtown, so I found the train station and the new transit center, which was across the street from Amtrak and is quite nice, btw. I decided not to ride it, once I figured out what it was. Basically a branded bus with decent headways but no visible impact on the neighborhoods it serves.

The Rapid runs to the burbs, I was already downtown and I had no interest in seeing Reno's sprawl (I saw enough from the sky and the taxi ride from the airport). I believe it is being expanded down 4th Street, which is a strip with craft breweries and old warehouses, just east of DT, that reminds me of Brooklyn's Park Street. Transit users at the transit center seemed to be typical of what you'd find in any city with local bus service. With that said, from what I could observe, it seemed like a regular bus route with nicer vehicles.
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