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Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:00:03 AM »
Jacksonville vs Milwaukee



This Great Lakes port city has reversed its downtown fortunes and is now growing again. Why can't Jacksonville?

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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 06:02:15 AM »
Wonderful article.  I've visited Milwaukee a few times in the last 3 years. Each time my wife and I both commented on how much we enjoyed the experience.  The view of the lake combined with green space is incredible.  To me, the most striking difference between Jax and Milwaukee is the condition/appearance of the streets.  I found Milwaukee's steets clean, orderly and filled with trees. As a big supporter of our downtown, I'm sometimes struck by the state of our streets. Cracked sidewalks, trash and damaged city property. In Milwaukee, there seems to be strong belief in their city and it shows in the pride many residents seem to take in their businesses and townhouses. Jax can get there but we just need to continue to grow the resident/business owner base which I really believe will force leadership to truly committ to a more successful downtown.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 01:38:54 PM »
I love the Germanesque (I'm sure that's not really a 'thing', but I digress) architectural cues of the upper Midwest - testament to the decades-long influx of German, Belgian, Polish, etc., immigrants to the region; Kind of like having a piece of the Continent for ourselves - and how radically different (at least to the untrained eye) it is from our local architectural flavor.  I love the variety and variation from one region to the next, and it's great to see it so well demonstrated in the phenomenal pictures.

Another great article and pictorial - great work MJ staff!  Keep them coming!
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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 02:25:47 PM »
Home of the worlds largest music festival...  8)

http://summerfest.com/

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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 11:22:34 PM »
Milwaukee is a great city. And I mean a city, not our hollowed-out shell of a downtown. One of the big surprises in my travels, I wasn't expecting it. But it's truly a great place. Fond du lac is a neat town too.


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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 04:49:13 PM »
The festival photos and lakefront festival area were all shot during Summerfest 2014. The balance of the 'show' photos were shot at the Wisconsin State Fair, where old neighbor, Express Ranches, of Yukon, OK, swept the winnings.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 07:13:33 PM »
Stop with the comparisons already. Each city is different. Location, taxes, employee education and skills, and much, much more may explain why some cities do better than others. If all these cities are so great, feel free to move there. Besides, if you lived there, you would understand that they have their problems too. You just don't see it on a visit.

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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 08:34:38 PM »
^ ??? Had a bad day a work? Take it easy and don't get so sensitive.
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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 03:24:20 PM »
Stop with the comparisons already. Each city is different. Location, taxes, employee education and skills, and much, much more may explain why some cities do better than others. If all these cities are so great, feel free to move there. Besides, if you lived there, you would understand that they have their problems too. You just don't see it on a visit.

I get people's frustrations with New Yorkers because nothing is ever "like New York", however, in Jacksonville's case, there needs to be MORE bitching and less "move away if you don't like it".

Milwaukee is a great town.  I get to go every 1-2 years to visit friends and I always have a good time and leave feeling impressed.  It's freakin Milwaukee.  If that town can thrive and make a person feel all warm inside, there is NO excuse why Jacksonville cannot.  The attitude of the people in Jax is that Jax is ok, and they are fine with that.  Well, then shoot, I guess if everyone is fine with the way things are!  I personally was not, so rather than try to fight the impossible battle (5,000 citizens who want better versus the other 1.4 million, lol), I left (not to mention, I wanted a top notch education and a place where I could find ladder climbing career opportunities and challenges not available in towns like Jax).

The big difference between a city like Milwaukee and Jax is that the hometown pride of Milwaukee's citizens leaves them clamoring to come together to make the city a better place to compete in a new age where manufacturing has left many of Milwaukee's peers high and dry.  Citizens in Milwaukee recognize that quality of life is the most important aspect of a city, and will retain human capital and the firms chasing that human capital.  The citizens seem well traveled and well versed in what makes a city tick and succeed.  So they make sure their parks are maintained (and their parks are GREAT).  They have bike trails that are very very well maintained - I bike along the lake from my friend's place to south of the museum, which is also a great architectural statement for such a small city.  The institutions there are well funded and important to the citizenry.  The city is hell bent on maintaining functional urban neighborhoods, and heck, the Third Ward is literally all empty nesters who WANT to move in from the western suburbs once their kids are grown.

But my experience as well is that the Midwesterners up in Milwaukee are also far more traveled, better educated, and generally wiser than their counterparts in Jax/FL.  Sad to say, but it's true in stats, evident in conversation, and apparent just by visiting their fine city.
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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 03:31:41 PM »
Just my opinion, I don't like this 'versus' series, but I liked the "Learning From". Next is gonna be "Jacksonville vs Munich" then everybody can cut copy and paste "There's not much of a comparison; Blahzay city easily blows Jax out of the water, blah blah blah blah" instead of the constructive and beneficial takes that the 'Learning From" series had. 

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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2015, 04:18:06 PM »
The next one is Jax vs Tampa. I think you'll like it.
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Re: Jacksonville vs Milwaukee
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 05:30:14 PM »
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The big difference between a city like Milwaukee and Jax is that the hometown pride of Milwaukee's citizens leaves them clamoring to come together to make the city a better place to compete in a new age where manufacturing has left many of Milwaukee's peers high and dry.

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