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An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« on: January 08, 2015, 03:00:04 AM »
An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?



The 38.2 mile Fred Marquis Pinellas Trail is an older sibling of Jacksonville's Baldwin Rail Trail and S-Line Urban Greenway. Like the S-Line Urban Greenway, it travels through some of the most urban areas of Florida. Unlike the S-Line, it's provided an economic boost to the communities it penetrates and serves.

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2015, 08:41:55 AM »
Is there a proposed route for Jax?
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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2015, 08:58:55 AM »
It would be great to have a trail like that here.

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2015, 10:41:28 AM »
It would be great to have a trail like that here.

+1

We've already got the Baldwin trail--would be awesome if that could be connected to the downtown area. 
A separated trail going from downtown to the beaches (18 miles give or take) and/or Mandarin (12 miles) would be a pretty sweet quality of life increase for Jax!
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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2015, 12:05:47 PM »
Sorry, FDOT only has money for lincoln-lanes next to 295, where it's not even needed.
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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2015, 12:09:05 PM »
I agree on increasing the number of urban and suburban bike trails.

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2015, 12:41:20 PM »

This street is about the same width as Hendricks Avenue and San Marco Boulevard without the continuous center turn lane.


Don't know how to get a trail across a major intersection? It's easy, the same way we get pedestrians across them now.


There's a city in NE Florida that has a downtown with several streets containing more travel lanes than really needed....


No room for bikes, roller bladers and joggers? No problem, take a lane out of an existing street.....even if there's an active rail line running in the middle of it!

While riding the Pinellas Trail and seeing the retrofits that had been done to existing streets above, all I could think was if these communities can do this on their streets, why can't Jax do the same with our streets?



Edgewood Avenue in Murray Hill. It was built this wide for a streetcar that was never extended the length of the neighborhood. It's more than wide enough for a context sensitive makeover that does not compromise existing auto traffic movement.


Park Street in Brooklyn. Another COJ street that has no business being 4-lanes in the 21st century. With all the redevelopment happening in Brooklyn and Riverside Avenue being what it currently is today, Park seems like a natural corridor to tie Five Points with Brooklyn, JTA's proposed JRTC/LaVilla/DT, etc.


Not to mention the host of urban core two lane streets that are way wider than they need to be....like Myrtle Avenue.

If we just coordinated our routine street repaving program with context sensitive streets concepts and with the idea of multimodal network connectivity, we could have our own network at a minimal expense.
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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2015, 08:53:03 PM »
Some advocates in Tampa have developed the concept of the Green Artery.

http://greenartery.org/

The city is looking to implement portions of the corridor in the next few years

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2015, 08:59:12 PM »
The bike trail on doctors lake drive in orange park is an awesome little trail for that community. I think it's about 4 miles. It would be nice it there was a path beside the rail road on 17.
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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 07:45:25 AM »
An Urban Waterway Trail? Why not?

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2015, 09:51:24 AM »
A context sensitive makeover for Murray Hill "towncenter" along Edgewood seems timely. For the future: bike/ped friendly connections to Avondale at Rooseveldt and Edgewood + context sensitive makeover / connection to Riverside from Post from Edgewood through that thorny interchange at McDuff.

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2015, 10:02:13 AM »
LOL about the gun club sign along the Baldwin Trail. My wife and I were momentarily terrified along the trail once. Gunshots aside, proximity to Whitehouse Field can make for deafening / highly unsettling pedaling during maneuvers.

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Re: An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2015, 10:17:18 AM »
An Urban Bike Trail: Why Not Jacksonville?



The 38.2 mile Fred Marquis Pinellas Trail is an older sibling of Jacksonville's Baldwin Rail Trail and S-Line Urban Greenway. Like the S-Line Urban Greenway, it travels through some of the most urban areas of Florida. Unlike the S-Line, it's provided an economic boost to the communities it penetrates and serves.

Read More: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2015-jan-an-urban-bike-trail-why-not-jacksonville

I visited Healdsburg, CA over the summer and enjoyed their urban pedestrian / bicycle path, that went through downtown. It was dotted with public art along the way, and very well done overall.

Article: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/1862578-181/healdsburg-pathway-set-to-grow