Author Topic: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville  (Read 19808 times)

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2014, 01:31:57 PM »
Maybe it has to with funds? Are buses cheaper? This gets back to Jax being one of the lowest-taxed cities in the country. You get what you pay for. Taxes are a necessary fuel for public amenities and transportation.

It's all about commitment. We have more than enough funds to incrementally get started.  In fact, we already have 2.5 miles of fixed transit in place with 8 stations to play with.  Adding a station in Brooklyn is a good incremental step.  Better coordination of existing transit and downtown growth desires are two more steps worth considering more than we are today.
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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2014, 03:04:15 PM »
As long as no ever-present crime permeate through the area, RCMP would be fine. The location near the airport is ideal. The Avenues has been around for twenty-four years (1990) and it's doing fine, with the so called 'big bad bully' SJTC on the Southside also. So much for that juggernaut 2020 Nassau County mall that's gonna turn RCMP into Gateway in 20 years...The whole ' bigger and better' takeover philosophy is so highly overblown, esp given that Jax is a growing city...
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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2014, 05:41:41 PM »
The philosophy isn't overblown. There's a strong pattern across the country of retail centers declining as they age, the demographic setting around them changes, and newer/modern centers designed for whatever the trend is at that time, come online.  This really isn't a Jax issue, it's just the world we live in.

We can always find some centers that are an exception to the rule but I wouldn't call The Avenues one.  The Avenues and SJTC are managed by the same company.  If anything, they complement each other moreso than compete with one another.  Just look at the anchor tenants.  Other than Dillards, each center has anchor tenants that the other does not.
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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2014, 07:15:30 PM »
^^^If people start to feel unsafe at RCMP, and some big boxes go out of business with no replacements coming in, I could see RCMP gradually declining. Other than that, I don't see a decline happening, regardless of what's built in Nassau County.

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2014, 07:27:48 PM »
What typically happens has less to do with customers being unsafe and more to do with better business opportunities for tenants developing replacement stores elsewhere.  For example, when Walmart went to the supercenter format, they abandoned a lot of viable strip malls across the country for new digs that met their updated business strategy and footprint.  CVS and Walgreens did the exact same thing when they left viable strip mall storefronts for a new model focused on free standing outparcels adjacent to signalized intersections.  You also have situations where some chains close altogether and spaces specifically designed for that chain's foot print are difficult to lease to others. While we've been fortunate with Walmart and Rowe's moving into our market, others across the state are littered with spaces abandoned by Albertson's, Winn-Dixie, and Food Lion. In general, some shopping centers are redeveloped to meet current day trends (ex. Roosevelt Square) and others aren't (ex. Town & Country, Expressway Mall).
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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2014, 02:17:17 PM »
More shops headed to the River City Marketplace area:

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Big-box store coming to Parkway Shops?

Parkway Shops, adjacent to River City Marketplace, is adding Hobby Lobby to its growing set of stores along Max Leggett Parkway in North Jacksonville — and there could be another much larger store in the future.
Hobby Lobby is shown on site plans filed with the city as a 55,000-square-foot store in the project’s Phase II. Construction is anticipated to start in November and the retailer would open in fall 2015.

Site plans also show two stores next to Hobby Lobby – 13,438 and 13,600 square feet – and a “future major” of more than 134,000 square feet.

Full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=543983
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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2014, 07:18:43 AM »
Any idea who might be the "future major"? My first thought would be Cabela's. I've heard they're interested in expanding into Florida and Gander Mountain has done very well at that location.
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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2014, 08:43:52 AM »
^^^I would be very surprised to see a Cabela's there. IMO there are already enough sporting goods stores in the area (Dick's and Gander Mtn). I wonder could the big space be a warehouse club of some sort (like BJ's or Costco), 

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2014, 11:29:23 AM »
A Mellow Mushroom could be coming to the Parkway Shops across from RCMP.

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2014, 03:26:06 PM »
^ its been in the works since before the Avondale shop was finished

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2014, 03:30:26 PM »
^^^My bad.

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2014, 08:07:36 PM »
It's basically a string of strip malls folded into a box like pattern with a few variations for national big box anchors. The fact that you can't walk from one side to the other without getting run over is the proof.

I think its great for the northside overall. It's lousy for Regency because it has pretty much drained off their last audience.

Is it sustainable? Not really. Being by the airport is an asset and even closer to a potential commuter station nearby.

But all it will take is one developer purchasing the NE corner of the I-95/A1A intersection and building a Nassau Town Center in 5-10, perhaps 15 years and this center will begin its eventual decline and become the next Gateway Center.  Greater Jacksonville has lots of history to prove it.


.......and usually starts of with warm embrace of growth "Boom!"

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2014, 08:38:49 PM »
wouldn't say jax and SD are "no different". SD has a much, much higher tax base, much higher population, more density, and is located two counties south from los angeles. agreed that their transportation situation is great.... a coaster ride from SD to LA is fun. just wouldn't hold my breath expecting to get the same amenities in jax.

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Re: River City Marketplace: A Boom in North Jacksonville
« Reply #44 on: July 02, 2022, 02:48:07 PM »
Isn't this theater fairly new?
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