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The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« on: December 16, 2013, 06:25:02 AM »
The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan



Conceptual plans have been released of the Jacksonville Landing's potential redevelopment. Metro Jacksonville invites you to take a look, let us know what you think and what you would modify or add if you had it your way.

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 07:56:19 AM »
another plan.  Who will pay for this?  Sleiman, or the city?

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 08:05:34 AM »
Seems like a lot more demolition is coming to jacksonville for a paved lot on the hopes of "future development"

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 08:11:17 AM »
i can see alot of cash flowing into sleimans at the cost of the citizens...do we want to hand him more cash to loose....?..take him out kf the formula and then maybe...if hes at the helm...hell no

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 08:12:55 AM »
another plan.  Who will pay for this?  Sleiman, or the city?

Most likely, the city will be a financial partner by providing some type of incentive package. Likewise, the city will be most likely providing incentives for every major project in the Northbank, if they want to see them get off the ground anytime soon.

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 08:15:18 AM »
i can see alot of cash flowing into sleimans at the cost of the citizens...do we want to hand him more cash to loose....?..take him out kf the formula and then maybe...if hes at the helm...hell no

So you are of the belief that you'd rather see the Landing and downtown fail then see ownership succeed at making it a better place (which also means making downtown a better place)? Is there a scenario in your mind where both current ownership and downtown come out winners?
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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 08:33:01 AM »
Seems like a lot more demolition is coming to jacksonville for a paved lot on the hopes of "future development"

After nearly two decades of struggling, Rouse ran away from the Landing. Sleiman has had it for 10 years and nothing has really improved. Is it time for us to admit that downtown can't support 125,000 square feet of national chain retail space?

Is it possible for the Landing to be a vibrant space with the parking shown in Phase I? Is there anything you would suggest that you believe would improve the redevelopment plan?
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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 08:46:49 AM »
as long as hes not making the decisions alone and every dime is accounted for...id rather the city buy him out and take it over...i trust noone especially him..sorry to offend you guys..

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2013, 08:49:23 AM »
I was honestly hoping for more, but for what it is, I quite like it. Not a fan of the palm trees though (North Florida doesn't have to look like Fort Lauderdale), and I don't think it will look as picturesque from the south bank without the existing Landing signage.

I hate to be that guy, but with the court yard wide open like this, what can be done to prevent panhandlers from setting up shop or taking over the area? 

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2013, 08:49:29 AM »
On the vehicular circulation slide, is that lane going right through the north side of the courtyard??

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2013, 09:03:03 AM »
as long as hes not making the decisions alone and every dime is accounted for...id rather the city buy him out and take it over...i trust noone especially him..sorry to offend you guys..

No offense taken, although the city has a pretty bad track record in the real estate development business.

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2013, 09:04:42 AM »
On the vehicular circulation slide, is that lane going right through the north side of the courtyard??

Yes. The main entrance to the parking lot would be off the round-a-bout with the Jackson statue in it.
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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2013, 10:01:42 AM »
Personally I am positive on this.  This plan takes away the mall vs mall emphasis and makes it a place to enjoy the river.  Nobody ever said they had to be big chain restaurants.  Our local restaurants are much better anyways. 

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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2013, 10:03:59 AM »
On the vehicular circulation slide, is that lane going right through the north side of the courtyard??

Yes. The main entrance to the parking lot would be off the round-a-bout with the Jackson statue in it.

Which entirely negates the idea that this will be pedestrian friendly or improve the "Riverfront Connection" in any way besides maybe visually. Who says, "Oh, look at that beautiful river view, but it would be so much better if I had to cross a strip mall parking lot to get to it"? Cars and pedestrians on the same surface don't mix. If this isn't fixed the project isn't worth doing, let alone incentivizing. Call me cynical, but I don't expect a lot of constructive feedback from the DDRB or our illustrious mayor.

I also love how Phase II is planned for "when the market is ready". Translation: "this is lip service so the city will let us put more surface lots in the heart of downtown indefinitely."
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Re: The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2013, 10:12:03 AM »
Okay so what is the difference in terms of the Landing actually being redeveloped than it was a few years ago. I remember Sleiman had a display at the Landing of how he wanted to redevelop it. This never happened as we all can tell. So what is different now. Should we get our hopes up? I know the city back then would not sell him the land the Landing sits on if I remember correctly. Also will the parking garage across the street in that vacant lot ever be built. What good is a new Landing if there is no where for a good crowd of people to park? Someone please school me!
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