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2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« on: August 22, 2013, 09:00:19 PM »
2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released



Did you know that downtown Jacksonville is home to 90 restaurants and 30 bars? Have you ever wondered how many people really live or work in downtown? Perhaps you have a desire to see a list of all proposed downtown development projects? You'll find the answers to these questions, general statistics and more in Downtown Vision's recently released 2012 State of Downtown Report.

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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-aug-2012-state-of-downtown-jacksonville-report-released

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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 07:12:49 AM »
To me this is a glazed look at DT. Yes there is some growth but just a few mere blocks from DT there is destitution.

The information from the OED does not mention how much they fail at.

On top of that how much the community suffers because of their failures and also how much they dont do but have the power to do.

According to FS chapter 163 there is soooo much the OED can pursue but they dont! They continue to cater to the banks, Jaguars, a small handful of developers and never do a thing for the areas just outside of DT. There is a high need to employ those with just high school education and even those with less then stellar backgrounds but that have turned their lives around. There is a need to employ the displaced housewife, the freshly detached military personnel who can run a nuclear submarine or destroyer class ship but doesnt have a college degree yet the OED continues to create corporate welfare for million and billion dollar companies that require college degrees for job opportunities.

You must remember with the creation of the DIA the OED should not touch a thing within the DT borders. The OED should be concentrating on everything outside of DT like the North and Northwest side of town. Arlington is going down hill fast why isnt the OED trying to prevent that from happening?

The article is a feel good article which doesnt tell the whole story of how much this community is hurting.
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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 09:25:45 AM »
Where are the homicide, homeless and crime rate statistics?  Or a poll of how many people in the MSA who actually WANT to come downtown.

How about the average length of time people actual stay downtown, who haven't been mugged, detained or accosted?

Or how many actually come downtown for the food trucks and murals? 

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Re: Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 09:28:23 AM »
^The JSO will tell you crime is low, and thousands of people have come to events like food truck rallies. Nice try at trolling, though, you'll get it one day I'm sure.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 09:32:26 AM »
Where are the homicide, homeless and crime rate statistics?  Or a poll of how many people in the MSA who actually WANT to come downtown.

How about the average length of time people actual stay downtown, who haven't been mugged, detained or accosted?

Page 19 actually addresses the crime.  Downtown is one of the safest areas of town to live in, accounting for only 2% of JSO calls. 

Edit:  Wait, crap, I just checked Max posting history.  So, it's not like he'll care about the report.   :'(
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So I said to him: Arthur, Artie come on, why does the salesman have to die? Change the title; The life of a salesman. That's what people want to see.

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Re: Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 09:44:29 AM »
How about the average length of time people actual stay downtown, who haven't been mugged, detained or accosted?

In my case that would be 7.5 years of living downtown

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 09:53:02 AM »
Where are the homicide, homeless and crime rate statistics?  Or a poll of how many people in the MSA who actually WANT to come downtown.

How about the average length of time people actual stay downtown, who haven't been mugged, detained or accosted?

Or how many actually come downtown for the food trucks and murals?
It seems to me that whether people in Mandarin or Murray Hill or any other part of the city "want to come downtown" is rather myopic and wholly immaterial to the discussion.  A more vibrant downtown will benefit everyone in Jacksonville both directly (by increasing property taxes collected from currently underperforming properties in an area where existing infrastructure investment is huge) and indirectly (as a result of improved perception of the city by companies who may choose to locate or expand operations here and by potential visitors who bring their wallets to our restaurants, hotels and retailers when they visit) whether they ever set foot in downtown or not.

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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 10:33:03 AM »
Most of the numbers look great but man what the heck is going on at the Florida Theater it went from having 380,000 to 128,000 and Metropolitan Park 257,000 to 85,000 what the heck? Talk about wasted resources.

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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 11:06:53 AM »
^ Both of those numbers stuck out to me as well.

Anyone have any insight into this?

The Baseball Grounds numbers also seemed a bit strange.

How was this year's attendance nearly double that of the last three or four years?

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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 11:30:10 AM »
Florida Theater's numbers noisedived right at the start of the crash, plus the St. Augustine Ampitheater opened in 2007. Attendence went from 380,000 to 187,000 between 2006 to 2007. Metro Park's numbers are a joke. Good thing those people in St. Nicholas can sleep well 362 nights a year.

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 11:32:07 AM »
Edit:  Wait, crap, I just checked Max posting history.  So, it's not like he'll care about the report.   :'(

Can we just ban him already? I'm all for free speech, but obvious troll is obvious.
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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 11:36:06 AM »
Florida Theater's numbers noisedived right at the start of the crash, plus the St. Augustine Ampitheater opened in 2007. Attendence went from 380,000 to 187,000 between 2006 to 2007. Metro Park's numbers are a joke. Good thing those people in St. Nicholas can sleep well 362 nights a year.

That's the reasons. NIMBY applies everywhere from farm to city.  It is a shame though because the potential for Metro Park is so untapped.

Also, keep in mind that it is Downtown Vision's mission to present the core in a positive light, so those looking for the gritty dirty facts in their glossy publication will be disappointed. But then, why would one want to know those except to knock DT?
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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 12:07:36 PM »
This is always a puff piece for Downtown and more of a marketing material than an objective analysis. I take it with a grain of salt

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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 01:50:59 PM »
I hate that the troll's name is Max. In my experience, we are generally cool and intelligent individuals. 8)

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Re: 2012 State Of Downtown Jacksonville Report Released
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2013, 08:38:20 AM »
FYI: At 9am this morning Kathy Hardwick, Director of Marketing for DVI will be appearing on Channel 4's "This Week in Jacksonville" to discuss the improvements slated for DT.
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