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City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« on: April 18, 2013, 02:01:50 AM »
City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?



Documents obtained from a Metro Jaxon reveals the City of Jacksonville's interest in demolishing H.J. Klutho's 101-year-old Claude Nolan Cadillac building at 937 North Main Street.

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Re: City interested demolishing Claude Nolan building
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2013, 04:46:13 AM »
There's no way they go through with this.  Cities don't just demolish historic buildings with tons of character and potential in a developing core. Am I right?

What's that?

Oh.   :o

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Re: City interested demolishing Claude Nolan building
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2013, 04:47:25 AM »
Why is the city trying to tear down the building?  It does not appear to be unsafe.  What if anything would go in it's place?  Weeds would be my guess. 

Why spend money the city doesn't have to demolish a reuseable building?  How can the city demolish this building yet insist that Bostwick not be? 

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Re: City interested demolishing Claude Nolan building
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2013, 05:00:41 AM »
It's part of the Emerald necklace and you may want to bring this up with The DIA.

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Re: City interested demolishing Claude Nolan building
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2013, 06:42:05 AM »
To my knowledge the city doesn't even own this building.  Why would they be putting out bids for its demolition?  Is it unsafe?  What is with this city demolishing everything they can? 


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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 07:59:44 AM »
Municipal Code Enforcement Division is responsible for the demolitions that the city does. The division chief, Ms Scott, seems to believe that the only safe building is a demolished one.

Obviously there has been or shortly will be an influx of funding for demolitions to Municipal Code Enforcement Division.  It would be interesting to see where this funding is coming from, like perhaps NSP?
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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 08:09:15 AM »
Wonder if the artists at CORK would be able to move to that building and save it...does the Jax Historical Society help save buildings?  It's Klutho, it's historical. 

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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 08:56:47 AM »
It seems odd that MCCD would be pushing for demolition on this one building. There must be more to the story.
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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 09:02:23 AM »
Unfortunately there is nothing odd about demos in Jax.  If it was not for the hard research work being done, we would not know about the shady, sneaky, unscrupulous work being done by the city, behind the scenes to destroy the historic fabric of this town. 

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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2013, 09:04:05 AM »
Nothing odd about demolitions. But why this one building now? Methinks some one has complained.
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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 09:17:53 AM »
damn it. what is wrong with these people running this city. You have this great event going on Downtown but you still have this short sightedness that can not see correlation.  Your right Tacachale I bet there is some $$$ behind this someone wants it demolished.

Code enforcement needs an overhaul, is this an apointed position?

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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 09:24:16 AM »
Has this thing been partly demolished already? The then and now pictures look like two different buildings. Are the two main pictures oriented the same direction (the white building is the main building that had the Cadillac sign hanging off it)? If so, it looks like the historic character of the building has already been lost.

No point in knocking something down that isn't an imminent danger, though.

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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 09:40:49 AM »
The exterior of the main structure was "renovated" decades ago to make it appear to be Art Deco.  However, that's cosmetic and can easily be reconfigured as a part of restoration if a future owner decides to do so.  The rest of the structure, and it's interior, pretty much remains in place.
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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 09:43:32 AM »
Maybe our city leaders found out the building did not support the moratorium

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Re: City interested in demolishing Claude Nolan building?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 10:05:51 AM »
It is an odd collection of building techniques. I remember from the EH Thompson days and visits to their warehouse.  Timber framing, rivited steel and some odd concrete work makes it appear to be a suspect builing. As I recall there was a need to make some repairs to the concrete in the front building.  However those things are common for period buildings like this. Even the old belt drive shafts for machinery still attached over head are common for that period.

It is a odd, crummy looking building, but never was too bad. However I haven't been in there since 2001.