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Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« on: June 08, 2012, 03:05:55 AM »
Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park



Metro Jacksonville takes a visit to Tampa's version of Jacksonville's Riverside/Avondale: Hyde Park


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http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2012-jun-urban-neighborhoods-tampas-hyde-park

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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 03:21:57 AM »
Nice article, Ennis.

I used to live in Hyde Park (right next to Gorrie Elementary, actually) and the pictures brought back some good memories. It was a really nice neighborhood to live in - one of the few in Tampa. Our apartment was very close to Hillsborough Bay and downtown.

It is a lot like Avondale.

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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 07:07:41 AM »
Nice article, looks a lot like Avondale but bigger.

In the 2nd paragraph I think the date 1988 should be 1888.

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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 07:48:44 AM »
I wonder if the Jax Riverwalk was completed/extended all the way to Metropolitan Park, would it challenge Tampa for longest sidewalk?
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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 08:57:14 AM »
No, extending the Riverwalk to Metropolitan Park would put it somewhere between 3 and 3.5 miles. The Bayshore sidewalk is 4.5 miles long and 10' wide.  Tampa is currently doing a lane diet going from 6 to 4 lanes to accommodate a bikeway to separate walkers and cyclist.

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The road pavement suffers from disrepair, and the City of Tampa is worried that the boulevard will make a bad impression when the city receives a record amount of TV coverage in August 2012 for the Republican National Convention.

The city has allocated $1.5 million to upgrade the boulevard's balustrade, and to add the landscaped median and bicycle trails, but the roadway remains bumpy and in poor condition. The project has begun, causing some disruption to traffic. The bike trails in particularly will make it easier for walkers and joggers, as without them walkers, joggers and bicyclers jostled each other. Calming the road traffic along with the addition of space between the roadway and the trails helps those not in cars. The plans for the project, begun in March 2011, call for narrowing a busy part of the road from six lanes to four.

Calling the boulevard's pavement "a patchwork quilt of all different levels, colors and various grades," City Councilman Harry Cohen said, "I am frustrated that this city asset is not going to be able to put its best foot forward when the eyes of the world are upon us." But Bob Buckhorn, Mayor of Tampa felt that that the Bayshore projects under way will make a difference. "We will have our prom dress on, lipstick affixed, and we will be ready for the show," he said, adding, "We'll be like Cinderella at the dance."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayshore_Boulevard
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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 11:25:18 AM »
Hyde Park is definitely a bigger version of Avondale. As someone who lived in Jacksonville prior to my 4 years here in Tampa, I would say that the biggest difference between the two areas is that Hyde Park is the desirable area for both the established rich people and young professionals. When I lived in Jacksonville, I don't remember too many of the young professionals trying to live in Avondale. Tampa also seems to have more people who are interested in revitalizing downtown and historic neighborhoods, although we are still woefully behind. Hyde Park could be a lot better and I would look to Winter Park as the example of the way to do things.

The freeway infrastructure in the entire metro area is piss poor. We are really paying for all of the freeway revolts in the 1970's. Freeways are not the answer to all transportation needs, but every metro area needs a certain amount of them to make the area easy to get around. The article says that the Selmon Exwy cut off much of the neighborhood from UT and Soho. That isn't entirely accurate. The CSX railroad tracks already separated most of the neighborhood from Soho. When the expressway was built, the railroad right of way was used. The expressway did not cut off any through streets south of Platt, as those were already cut off by the railroad. Only a small portion near UT was cut off. Even then, it is still very easy for pedestrians to cross under the expressway, unlike many urban expressways that were built and unlike I-275, which plowed through several historical neighborhoods.

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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 11:42:44 AM »
I lived in the area from 2000-2006 prior to moving to Jacksonville.  I think that Riverside is starting to take on some of the young hipness that Hyde Park exudes.  Combined with Avondale, it is VERY comparable with the Hyde Park area in Tampa.

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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 11:59:47 AM »
No, extending the Riverwalk to Metropolitan Park would put it somewhere between 3 and 3.5 miles. The Bayshore sidewalk is 4.5 miles long and 10' wide.  Tampa is currently doing a lane diet going from 6 to 4 lanes to accommodate a bikeway to separate walkers and cyclist.

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The road pavement suffers from disrepair, and the City of Tampa is worried that the boulevard will make a bad impression when the city receives a record amount of TV coverage in August 2012 for the Republican National Convention.

The city has allocated $1.5 million to upgrade the boulevard's balustrade, and to add the landscaped median and bicycle trails, but the roadway remains bumpy and in poor condition. The project has begun, causing some disruption to traffic. The bike trails in particularly will make it easier for walkers and joggers, as without them walkers, joggers and bicyclers jostled each other. Calming the road traffic along with the addition of space between the roadway and the trails helps those not in cars. The plans for the project, begun in March 2011, call for narrowing a busy part of the road from six lanes to four.

Calling the boulevard's pavement "a patchwork quilt of all different levels, colors and various grades," City Councilman Harry Cohen said, "I am frustrated that this city asset is not going to be able to put its best foot forward when the eyes of the world are upon us." But Bob Buckhorn, Mayor of Tampa felt that that the Bayshore projects under way will make a difference. "We will have our prom dress on, lipstick affixed, and we will be ready for the show," he said, adding, "We'll be like Cinderella at the dance."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayshore_Boulevard

Thanks for the info.

Maybe the Riverwalk could be extended to Commodore Point and even to the Ford plant.  I know, too much to expect, but the potential is there.

The urban core of Tampa is pretty nice, including Hyde Park, but outside of that, the area leaves a lot to be desired visually.

Speaking of road diets, my street in Greenville  SC is nearly completed with it's '6 auto lanes into 4 auto-2 bike lanes'  conversion.  Greenville has done several road diets in the last few years, and a very transformational one in the '80's that set DT on it's trajectory to successful revitilization. 

There is definitely some 'road obesity' in this country.   
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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 12:07:17 PM »
^Cool.  I'd love to see some images of the final road diet projects.
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Re: Urban Neighborhoods: Tampa's Hyde Park
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2012, 03:37:09 PM »
Thanks for the tour. I always visit this area when I visit Tampa. Very simliar to Riverside and Ortega.