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Adam White

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #135 on: May 15, 2018, 04:54:18 PM »
HATE the fact that the NBA approved the addition of advertisements to team uniforms.

The thought of seeing the traditional white and green Celtics jersey bastardized with some goofy Burger King logo makes me want to puke.


Yeah, that would be wicked awful.
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #136 on: June 01, 2018, 12:08:18 AM »
LeBron puts up 51-8-8, and still loses because JR Smith runs the wrong way, Tyronn Lue doesn't know how to call a timeout, and the referees can't even make a proper call using slow motion replays.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #137 on: June 01, 2018, 06:29:02 AM »
Or an 80% free throw shooter could have made the free throw.  But yes, totally did not get them reversing that call.
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #138 on: June 01, 2018, 08:35:18 AM »
I hate both teams but that was entertaining.

Lue and Lebron feeling "robbed" by the refs is amusing....well, now you know how it feels to be a Non-Lebron team in the East for the last decade.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #139 on: June 01, 2018, 11:17:29 AM »
Never thought I'd say it, but you've got to put LeBron right beside Jordan as the greatest of all time (Bill Russell notwithstanding, don't see how you can compare the eras).

Jordan might be 6 for 6 in the Finals, but he never had to carry such a weak supporting cast on his shoulders alone,* and he was usually on the bench by the fourth quarter resting, not putting up the minutes that LBJ is night after night.

*Except for the two 37-45 seasons with the Wizards that everyone pretends never happened, where he twice failed to make the playoffs with a talented young nucleus.

The 1994 Bulls racked up 55 wins after Jordan retired the first time, and 30 wins in 1999 (lockout adjusted) after they lost Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman.

Could this Cavs team win 20 games in the East without Lebron? I don't know.

LBJ single-handedly kept the Cavs in the lead for most of Game 1, on the road, against the most offensively stacked team in NBA history (this gem aside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBI4zJJmpM). He was the best offensive player on the floor, the best passer, and the best defender.

The guy has never got the calls from the ref that Jordan did, never had Phil Jackson or equilvalent leading the team (though Spoelstra remains super underrated), and is playing in a much different, much more demanding era (Jordan broke down in his 15th season, Lebron seems to be getting even better in his).

When he heads out west to join the Lakers with Kawhi and/or Paul George and wins another title, he'll seal the deal as GOAT.
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #140 on: June 01, 2018, 11:28:23 AM »
Never thought I'd say it, but you've got to put LeBron right beside Jordan as the greatest of all time (Bill Russell notwithstanding, don't see how you can compare the eras).

Jordan might be 6 for 6 in the Finals, but he never had to carry such a weak supporting cast on his shoulders alone,* and he was usually on the bench by the fourth quarter resting, not putting up the minutes that LBJ is night after night.

*Except for the two 37-45 seasons with the Wizards that everyone pretends never happened, where he twice failed to make the playoffs with a talented young nucleus.

The 1994 Bulls racked up 55 wins after Jordan retired the first time, and 30 wins in 1999 (lockout adjusted) after they lost Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman.

Could this Cavs team win 20 games in the East without Lebron? I don't know.

LBJ single-handedly kept the Cavs in the lead for most of Game 1, on the road, against the most offensively stacked team in NBA history (this gem aside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBI4zJJmpM). He was the best offensive player on the floor, the best passer, and the best defender.

The guy has never got the calls from the ref that Jordan did, never had Phil Jackson or equilvalent leading the team (though Spoelstra remains super underrated), and is playing in a much different, much more demanding era (Jordan broke down in his 15th season, Lebron seems to be getting even better in his).

When he heads out west to join the Lakers with

If He grows a Khan mustache, he may need a restraining order.

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #141 on: June 01, 2018, 11:46:57 AM »
Pat Riley runs circles around Phil Jackson. What Lebron has become is totally due to his time spent in Miami.
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« Reply #142 on: June 01, 2018, 12:20:25 PM »
Pat Riley runs circles around Phil Jackson. What Lebron has become is totally due to his time spent in Miami.

Blasphemy!

Phil's got more than twice as many rings as Riley (11 vs.
5), despite coaching four fewer seasons (20 vs. 24). Championships in 55% of his seasons, despite having to deal with the Krause's and the Reinsdorf's, and with Jordan's ego and gambling, and with Dennis Rodman kicking cameramen in the groin, and with Kobe and Shaq's drama, and with the rape trial, and with Meta World Peace, and with the most suffocating media attention of perhaps any basketball team in history.

Riley's Knicks had championship caliber talent in the early 90's, and they couldn't get past Phil's Bulls. And his Heat were loaded with talent (Zo, Tim Hardaway, Majerle, Eddie Jones, etc) after that, and they couldn't get past Jeff Van Gundy's Knicks.

Agree with you on Miami shaping LeBron, but Riley over Phil? Get outta here with that homer talk!

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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #143 on: June 01, 2018, 12:58:25 PM »
I don't watch the NBA at all, but I did catch the final 4 minutes of that game...

My only question - instead of throwing his hands up and yelling at JR Smith, why didn't Lebron call a timeout when he realized that JR was trying to run clock?

Someone has got to have the composure to not make a mistake worse, and in this case, game ending.
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #144 on: June 01, 2018, 01:18:29 PM »
Agree with you on Miami shaping LeBron, but Riley over Phil? Get outta here with that homer talk!

Pat did it at all levels. Phil was a flaming disaster in NY's front office.
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Re: 2011-2012 NBA Season
« Reply #145 on: June 01, 2018, 02:25:20 PM »
Agree with you on Miami shaping LeBron, but Riley over Phil? Get outta here with that homer talk!

Pat did it at all levels. Phil was a flaming disaster in NY's front office.

In Phil's defense, EVERYONE is a flaming disaster in NY's front office, but I'll concede that Riley clearly has the better track record in that respect.

But, if we're talking all levels, we might as well point out that Phil also has twice as many rings as a player than Riley (2 vs. 1)  8)