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Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« on: March 30, 2012, 03:06:50 AM »
Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No



With Jax Truckies Food Truck Championship taking place this weekend, Downtown Vision's Board of Directors votes to further restrict this burgeoning small business sector from being a part of our downtown revitalization process. With our public agencies continuing to take a sledgehammer to a fly and prohibiting a revitalization movement in the process, Jax Truckies organizer Mike Field expresses his views towards this industry and where it stands in Jacksonville.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2012, 03:37:57 AM »
Something needs to be done to keep those fools from killing downtown off.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 04:52:57 AM »
2010-856 The transient vendor ban. Go get'm Mike.

The Public Trust just totally crushed in this community.

DVI along with councilman Redman are missing this opportunity.

Imagine, even for a second a rotation of Food Tucks on our Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier.
    "      ,    "     "   "     "      "     "        "   "       "       "    "   Bay St. Pier Park.
    "      ,    "     "   "     "      "     "        "   "       "       "    "   Jacksonville Tradeport Pier.
This is Shipyards III. Shipyards/Landmar 2010-604, 2011-560

This is an epoch opportunity to reclaim Public Access and Economic Opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative.  We are a joke.

Today is the last day for FIND project submissions for this cycle. 4 years later and I still don't have a sponsor for a Pocket/Park  Pocket/Pier that I can take to the commissioners of FIND. Again, We are a joke.
Does anyone have a clue as to what the 4 FIND projects are for this cycle?
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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 06:58:12 AM »
It's like an instant start-up business without all of the overhead costs.  If a brick and mortar shop can't compete, then maybe they shouldn't be open.  Let the power of the free market take its course.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 07:02:09 AM »
Bummer!  Seems pretty short-sighted.  While in grad school in Philly I frequented food trucks most days.  There were more than 30 just on UPenn's campus, alone!  This is a website started by students devoted to collecting menus, and reviewing the food:  http://www.pennfoodtrucks.com/  Some of the trucks were excellent and had very long lines.  Others not so much...isn't that how it should be?  The presence of the food trucks didn't stop the line at Chipotle from spilling onto the sidewalk at lunch, nor (Bobby Flay's) Burger Palace, nor any of the other well-run, tasty, brick & mortar restaurants on or near campus.  Center City and Old City and the other neighborhoods in the city had just as many food trucks...allowing them seems like a gauranteed way to increase foot traffic.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 07:15:54 AM »
^^^Yes, that is how it is here, too.  Certain chef-driven lunch spots and Chipotle will still have incredible lines and waits, but food trucks do some major business.  Every business district has designated spots for them, and sometimes they come on designated days.  I just ate at an Asian-Taco fusion restaurant 2 nights ago in Midtown owned/run by one of the most popular food truck operators in Decatur.  One of the developments I work on in Chattanooga has a mercantile with local food court operators, and one is SOuthern Burger which is at the moment one of the most popular food trucks in Chattanooga as well as a permanent "food court" tenant in Warehouse Row.

Food trucks are almost passe at this point.  I was going to food trucks lined up in bar districts in 2006 and according to the Food Network they are already a slowing/diminishing trend in LA (not sure what the "new" trend is there, but LA is always a few years ahead of everywhere else).  Jax is soooo far behind it's hard to even think about.

It's not like food trucks are the end all be all, and they are pretty standard/old news by now, but seriously the fact that the city won't even allow them to convene on a designated day in a designated space within downtown goes to show how backward Jacksonville is.  These little decisions are why that city is sinking fast.  Evacuate now while you have a chance!
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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 07:21:18 AM »
Less competition the better, right???

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2012, 07:22:38 AM »
Portland, Tampa, Philly, Los Angeles, etc. have all successfully incorporated locations into their cores for food truck courts that have generated additional foot traffic to the benefit of the entire environment.  At the very least, it would make sense to truly study and evaluate the pros and cons of their incorporation before abruptly making a decision clearly based on something that can be proven as untrue with a simple google search or day trip to downtown Tampa.

Unfortunately, this is so predictable its pretty easy to see where things will go before we flush tons of public money down the drain once again, giving those against downtown more momentum to turn the spigot completely off.  Cities are organic and innovation and creativity can't be shut down by the fear of a few.  The stuff being shut out will eventually adapt and grow in another section of town.  From the line of ethnic restaurants and businesses lining Baymeadows and the reemergence of Park & King, to the artist and breweries clustering around the intersection of Park & King, real life examples are already there.  All of these places have benefitted at the expense of being shut out of downtown.  So while we move chairs around Hemming, only to see people still not show up regularly, what will be the next district to boom?  Will it be Edgewood Avenue on Murray Hill, Hendricks/San Marco Boulevard in San Marco, Main Street in Springfield, St. Nicholas Town Center, Riverside's King Street, etc?  Which district is about to hit a market rate home run first is the only unpredictable thing I see out there.

Nevertheless, I do wonder how will we create a vibrant creative class environment when the people and businesses that are needed to build these places are continuously closed out from truly participating in them.
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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2012, 07:22:59 AM »
And if brick and mortar restaurants are the concern, wtf.  There are like 2-3 chefs in Jax that even have name recognition outside of Jax and the city is no foodie paradise.  It is already a place with restaurants who could simultaneously operate mobile vendors - Mossfire, the Sheik, Lubi's, etc.  These guys don't want to take the risk of opening a permanent location in downtown because it ISN'T a place for brick and mortar restaurants, but I'm sure they'll risk a food truck??

What beside La Cena are the brick and mortar restaurants downtown?  There are none - Quizno's?  Subway?  Some standard office delis?  Chew is already closing and Olio is the only decent fare place left.  I mean come on.  The fact that DVI/leaders actually fear a hurting to brick and mortar businesses goes to show they have no self-realization.  There aren't restaurants downtown just like there aren't people downtown.  How many stupid people are in Jacksonville?  Apparently too many.
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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2012, 07:29:24 AM »
This. Is. Retarded.
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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2012, 08:31:23 AM »
Sad news. It seems like Jacksonville can't even take one step forward, but we are always taking two steps back.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2012, 08:34:35 AM »
Well the DVI is made up of downtown business leaders?  Are they putting their interests first in this vote? 

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2012, 09:18:58 AM »
I call for MetroJacksonville to create their own mobile truck and sell strictly bottled water (This still qualify for food industry regulation, etc.) We can have MetroJacksonville drive around and BREAK the laws, and continue to break the laws to boycott and protest against the city.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 09:28:03 AM »
Well the DVI is made up of downtown business leaders?  Are they putting their interests first in this vote?

That type of trepidation and ignorant fear is unfounded. 
One only has to look to our closest metropolitan area neighbor: Orlando

Fashion Square Mall and Oviedo Mall both now routinely host food truck bazaars.  Both of these malls have vibrant food courts.  However, they have figured out that increased foot traffic from food trucks has led to increased overall sales in the mall on the days of their events.






Oviedo's mayor, Dominic Persampiere, actually promotes the event at Oviedo Mall.


In Tampa, Mayor Bob Buckhorn promotes a montly food truck festival downtown:



So the question you have to ask yourself is... instead of studying the issue to find ways to mutually benefit from increased foot traffic as our peer cities our doing, why should we close the drawbridge and continue to fight?  Hasn't Fort Downtown suffered enough from this walled-off mentality?  Maybe the time to open the gates and let the other townspeople in has finally come?

If opinions are measured by money flowing out of downtown restaurants at lunch and dinner time and into surrounding in-town neighborhoods like San Marco and Riverside, then my opinion is that making downtown more hostile towards potential customers isn't the way to go.

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Re: Food Trucks in Jax: DVI Board Votes No
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 09:40:32 AM »
Really after 5pm, who's business are you hurting? Burrito Gallery will still have it's loyal customers as well as Indochine. Those are about the only options of places to eat downtown after the work day. Not sure who came up with the 11pm hour.