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pierre

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Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #9480 on: February 12, 2018, 12:34:00 PM »
It is still 70k without the tarps?

It feels like with the removal of the NEZ seats for the cabana area and the club seat reconfiguration that it would be lower than that.

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« Reply #9481 on: February 12, 2018, 12:39:58 PM »
With the blackout rule finally staked like the vampire it was, there's no point in the tarps. The only reason they're still there is to make it look nicer on TV (and for all the hot takers out there who go on about crowd sizes). But I don't know that tarps actually look nicer, especially if there's ever a chance they'd sell some of the untarped seats.
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« Reply #9482 on: February 12, 2018, 12:54:05 PM »
The tarps were a hideous eyesore. Good riddance.

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« Reply #9483 on: February 12, 2018, 01:38:04 PM »
I think capacity is something like 67,700 with the tarps removed.  It was 64,200-ish with the tarps in place and I think around 3,500 seats were covered.  For the playoff game where we drew over 69k, that included something like 1400 standing room tickets.

By comparison, capacity was 67,164 in the late 2000s/early 2010s, before the renovations to establish the pool deck and update the clubs, when there were 10,000 tarped seats.
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Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #9484 on: February 12, 2018, 01:41:20 PM »
67,932. Per Jaguars spokesperson Amanda Holt in WJCT article.
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« Reply #9485 on: February 12, 2018, 02:01:29 PM »
67k puts them in the bottom half of the league and close to small markets like Cincinnati and Indianapolis. Seems reasonable.

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« Reply #9486 on: February 12, 2018, 02:10:52 PM »
It is still 70k without the tarps?

It feels like with the removal of the NEZ seats for the cabana area and the club seat reconfiguration that it would be lower than that.

It is.  It was 77k before the new Clubs and Cabana (no tarps).  The Buffalo game saw nearly 70k including standing room only.

Its 84k for Florida Georgia with the additional bleachers.
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« Reply #9487 on: February 12, 2018, 03:14:53 PM »
I think it's safe to say "Georgia-Florida" for the next several years......... 8)

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« Reply #9488 on: February 12, 2018, 04:59:40 PM »
I'm sure they're also anticipating more nationally televised games next year too - being relevant in the division, and sexy matchups coming to town (Pittsburgh and New England).

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« Reply #9489 on: February 12, 2018, 05:53:41 PM »
You guys are right, I forgot that the 70k for the untarped Buffalo game also included standing room tickets.

That said, even with our first home playoff game in 20 years, anyone there that day knows that at least 15,000 of those tickets were purchased by Bills fans.

You guys might vehemently disagree, but I think 60k is the ideal sweet spot for this market. I know we can't because of Florida-Georgia, but I'd rather see seats removed or sections re-purposed than seats added.

Even with a great team this season, there were still tons of open seats in the non-tarped sections for every game except Seattle, and we still needed to rely on visiting teams to help pad sales.

68,000 seats are going to be really hard to fill and keep filled until Jacksonville grows a little bit more, and the second you put them back on if you realize they're more than the market can bare, all the same tired jokes about relocation are going to come back.

Also, in the perception vs. reality department, I wish there was something that could be done to incentive people in the upper deck to actually sit in their seats, rather than watch the game from the Bud Zone. When you've got thousands of people buying tickets in the upper decks but watching the entire game from the Bud Zone, it really adds to the perception than the local support isn't there too.

I do, however, love the decision to lower concession prices down to only $5 for hot dogs, hamburgers, nachos, and the other stadium staples. If you're going to flood the market with additional ticket supply, it makes a lot of economic sense to lower the price of the game day experience.

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« Reply #9490 on: February 12, 2018, 07:19:06 PM »
Great news,better keep winning though

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« Reply #9491 on: February 13, 2018, 08:53:05 AM »
According to the T-U, Coughlin was involved in the uniform re-design.

That will be a good thing as I doubt he would allow anything dumb like the 2013 and 2009 re-do's.

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« Reply #9493 on: February 15, 2018, 07:33:08 PM »
The Jaguars and city have to develop Lot J and/or shipyard in order to be seriously considered.

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« Reply #9494 on: February 16, 2018, 10:43:37 AM »
Yep. There's no way they even look at Jax if that Duval Live! thing doesn't come into being and work as a good event spot.