Author Topic: The Jacksonville Jaguars  (Read 1060578 times)

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
The Jacksonville Jaguars
« on: October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM »
Starting a new thread that has nothing to do with ticket sales (although it can), blackouts (I'm sure they will be mentioned) and moving to LA (can we drop the BS already, they're not going).

DD08 starts the weekly threads to vent after a game.  I wish it weren't so much venting, but at 1-4, what else can you do.

This is just an FYI topic to encompass all that are the Jags.  Mostly, because I hate seeing the LA and blackout thread revived everytime Del Rio drops a duece on the field.  Leave those threads for when blackouts are happenings and, well, honestly can a mod just delete the whole Jags to LA deal - (it's not gonna happen)
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

02roadking

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 681
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 04:24:17 PM »
Springfield since 1998

duvaldude08

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4513
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 04:42:48 PM »
Yeah I agree. I wish that LA and Blackout thread would be locked. We are very fustrated right now, but personally I have seen some go things from the team.. In Gabbert and the defense in particular. Defense has drastically improved and keeps us in the game now. Gabbert has given me chills everytime he plays. He a rookie who had no off season and was just thrown on the field. And he is amazing me more and more every week. Next season will be something to remember. We just need to the right people around him and the problem on the offense will be sovled. Regardless they are still my team that bares my city's name.

I think what bothers Jag's fans the most is that we know how good it feels to have a GREAT. The 90's were a great time for this franchise. Broke many NFL record's and almost made to the SB in our fifth year. To go from that, to this, hurts BAD.
Jaguars 2.0

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 05:01:35 PM »
OK, before you read this, I'll need everyone to take off your teal-colored glasses and sit down.  I don't need emotions here.  Save it for your wives, girlfriends and pets.

AT 1-4, THE JAG'S SEASON IS NOT LOST!


have you stopped laughing yet?  I'll repeat for effect....


AT 1-4, THE JAG'S SEASON IS NOT LOST!


You have to look at the bigger picture, and that is that we're only 2 games from first place and have a 1-0 record in our division.  NFC West, I'd like you to meet AFC South.  It's not going to take 10 wins to make the playoffs, hell, the way things are going, we can set a new NFL record and be the first team to win a division at 6-10.  (I kid.  Well, only kinda)

Ladies and Gentlemen, your AFC South Line-Up!!!!!!!

<Bruce Buffer Announcement>  We've known them as perenial champions and past Super Bowl winners.  They have dominated this division and the NFL for most regular season wins and best bitter-beer-face.  This year, they have the chance to be the lucky winners of the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes!   Coming in a steady 4th place with no hope as long as #18 is in the press box calling plays instead of on the field making them - Your......... Indianapolis Colts. 

Coming in 3rd after just paying HUUUUGE money to keep their rushing attack strong.  Losing their wiley deep threat in week 3 and having the aging Hasselbeck keep the future of the franchise on the bench with his uninspired play.  The Tennessee Titans.  Let us not forget their Week 1 loss to the Jags, having to start the season 0-1 in the division and managing to beat a few weaker teams in the league.

2nd place honors for the AFC South this year will go to the Houston Texans.  Why not?   The league's perennial favorite to knock off the Colts have yet to do what a little neck surgery had no problems with.   Knock the Colts off of the pedestal.   Now with Mario Williams out for the season, Cushing one piss test away from a yearlong suspension and hamstring injuries running amok.....   History says that they'll once again find a way to once again end up the bridesmaid looking forlornly at the new bride - in her Gorgeous Teal Fucking Dress!

That's right.  Jags win the division through attrition!  OK.  We have a top 5 defense this year.  We've lived by our D and died by our D, and this year is the year of the D in a world of Big O.  We held the Saints to a respectable score.  The Rookie from Auburn couldn't get anything going against us.  Since he's fired anyway, I'm blaming the whole Bengals debacle on Turk - who's out.  Our Offense is getting to be less offensive.  Our rookie from the midwest is progressing quickly, and soon, we'll be seeing 4-5 drives that mimicked the opening drive against the Bungles. 

Jags win the division.  Jags into the playoffs.  Simple.  (but not pretty)
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

duvaldude08

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4513
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 05:13:47 PM »
^^ you are so right! A losing record will get anyone in AFC south to the playoffs this year. Everybody sucks right. As long as we continue to beat the divison rivals, we can win the divison without even a suckey record
Jaguars 2.0

downtownjag

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 510
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 05:39:08 PM »
I'm very excited about the direction of our fanbase.... 62,000 showed up to watch our 1-3 team, because they love the Jags, win or lose.

Also, we are seeing the early fruits of their labors paying off.  Our defense looks great, and we've got a rookie QB who doesn't have accuracy issues, they are timing issues because he's never played with these guys.  Get that down and we'll be great.  And they will get that down.

GO JAGS

Jason

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4291
  • I am the man in the box...
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 06:01:16 PM »
Non-Redneck Westsider, I absolutely loved reading your comentary!

I do agree that the division title is still in our grasp, however not without some changes in the offensive scheme.  IMO, we need to get MJD in the endzone via the run AND the pass.  We need to give our TE's more short passes up front and let them use their legs to move the ball, and we NEED to keep Gabbert on his feet!  (Oh, and did I say we need to give the ball to MJD?)  :)

If we do that and the D stays solid, we have a chance.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 06:21:18 PM »
I do agree that the division title is still in our grasp, however not without some changes in the offensive scheme.  IMO, we need to get MJD in the endzone via the run AND the pass.  We need to give our TE's more short passes up front and let them use their legs to move the ball, and we NEED to keep Gabbert on his feet!  (Oh, and did I say we need to give the ball to MJD?)  :)

If we do that and the D stays solid, we have a chance.

See tip 5.....

A game can end in a tie moment, courtesy of Donovan McNabb - I think the entire team needs to study up on the NFL rule book.  Especially, Rule 4, Section 1, Article 1:

Quote
LENGTH OF GAME
Article 1 The length of the game is 60 minutes, divided into four periods of 15 minutes each. In the event the
score is tied at the end of four periods, the game is extended by an overtime period(s) as prescribed in
Rule 16.
We here like, to email our council members and government, employees, well, send an email to the coaching staff, reminding everyone, that 30 minute games ended, at the PopWarner level.  (Superfluous commas to represent the many mental mistakes that plague our team)

The new scheme should be playing a full 60 minutes and not treating a 2 point lead with 40 minutes left like it's a 20 point lead with 4 minutes left.

A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

Keith-N-Jax

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2378
    • Around the World
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 07:28:14 PM »
As a season ticket holder I love my team and I am there loud and proud, but it amazes me how people refuse to see the truth staring them dead in the face. Support the team yes, but stop the nonsense, enjoy the good plays here and there. 1 and 15 is knocking at the door. Houston or the Titans will win the division. Again what team are you homers actually watching. I have no problem with being optimistic or positive but its time to smell the kittly liter and it smells bad. Too bad with the division being up for grabs this yr. I think the Jags have found their QB though,, Go Jags

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 08:31:02 PM »
Stand Down 'Team Captian'   :P

We're all proud of you for being a season ticket holder and supporting the team, but my gut feeling tells me you're supporting A-B a little too much while at the stadium.

I don't know what talent you're not seeing on the field?  I'll start with the PP Fab 5: 

1.)  The guy that throws the ball - I've seen nothing but a kid with a cannon arm that is learning on the job.  He came from a spread O and he's in a typical single-back, pro-set offense.  There's a learning curve, but you get that.  There have been several throws that are timing throws that haven't connected.  The couple that have have made the entire stadium collectively hold their breath - throws that we haven't seen since Brunell.  Sure when you only have a 55% comletion rate and only throw the ball 40-50 times a game, no body looks at those stats very highly.  But if you take away the drops from the WRs, the mis-cues (miscommunication of routes) and the fact that he's a rookie, those stats take the form of something sweet.  Honey.

2.)  The guy that protects the guy that throws the ball - Monroe may not be a pro-bowl caliber LT, but he's far from a turnstile.  There's a few things that have held him back this year:   1.  Came into camp underweight.  2.  Overplaying the position.  3.  Injury. 

He's putting the weight back on (about 30lbs), but ask any athlete - it's super tough to keep weight duing the season.  You're burning calories non-stop and it's really difficult to put more in than you take out without adding fat.  You try eating 3-5lbs of lean meat/day.  This leads me to his overplay. 

According to my eyes (and the pundits for pointing it out) he is getting off the line too quickly and allowing the DEs to undercut him and rush the QB up the middle.  He's not getting beat as much as he beats himself.  It's his athletic ability that allows him to adjust and not let the DEs get a clean shot on Gabbert.  He's working harder than he has to. 

Now his shoulder is busted.  Not a huge injury for his position, but a nagging one.  Let's hope it doesn't get worse and turn into a pec or lat strain/tear with him trying to cover it up.
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 09:06:37 PM »
3,)  The guy that hits the guy that throws the ball - Roth & Mincey.  We are currently middle of the pack with sacks this year.  Last year - 30th.  Year before - DEAD ASSED LAST w/ 15 (sic, jic)  We have 8 so far.  And I'm not even mentioning the QB hurries and knock-downs and throw-aways.   Guess what?  Kampman is due to come back this week.  Let him give us a solid rotation and 8-9 games this year while collecting 6-8 sacks and he's done his job.  The key to all of this is 'rotation'.  We nee the ability to keep guys fresh through the game and keep fresh legs on the tackles that are in for the entire 60 minutes (28 minutes in JDR time, I digress)

4.)  The guy that catches the ball thrown from the guy that throws the ball - On this point and this point only.....  We need serious improvement.  Look at the teams with a solid passing game without an elite level QB: Giants, Cowboys & Bills.  What do they all have in common?  (I'm going to look this up)  Their main receivers average 6'2" (ranging from 6' to 6'5") - with an average ToS at 4.2 years in the league.  Us:  Mike Thomas (5'8"- 3rd yr) & Jason Hill (6'- 5th year).  (Done using references)  We don't have even an acceptible receiving corp. and I won't argue that point.  The future of the WRs is Cecil Shorts and Chastin West.  Both Rookies.  Both from small schools (imagine that) and both are going to be solid WRs in the league based on what I've seen.  Shorts has shown more and looks raw, West could be the real deal (Probably why the Packers drafted him, they already have 6 solid WRs - it's why he was on the practice squad)  Guess what again?  We will be able to draft a WR in the second round next year.  It's going to happen.  A true #1 type receiver.
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 09:16:46 PM »
Last but not least.....

5.)  The guy that defends the pass against the guy that throws the ball - We have used the Jet's formula to get our safeties.  We've used the GMG formula on corners.  Since the LBs keep knocking down passes and the DEs and DTs are making the QB rush throws, other than a blown coverage or two, I haven't seen anything in the secondary that makes me cringe.  We don't have a Revis.  But who does, other than the Jets.   And just in case you didn't bother to look it up, I did, we're tied for 6th in the league for interceptions.  Now think about all the balls that have bounced out of our D's hands....  Yeah.  We're not as bad as you think.
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

Non-RedNeck Westsider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4335
  • Politically Agnostic
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 09:18:24 PM »
Okay, Keith-in-Jax, Team Captian (it's I before E, not A),

I leave the forum open for your rebuttal.  Please do some research and use some facts other than 'I'm a season ticket holder' logic.

Thanks for playing buddy.....
A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
-Douglas Adams

Keith-N-Jax

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2378
    • Around the World
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 10:46:37 PM »
LOL my research is what we see every Sunday, I would suggest you sit a tad closer to the tv or if your at the game get some binos. Anyway Jags will probably finish 1 and 15, it will be tough for those who want the team to win. This will be a painful  yr for the faithfuls, but most know with BG it will be tough his first season, so I enjoy the good with the bad, my issue really is the poor excution, poor planning, and what appears to be bad coaching.

Gabbert needs some recievers that can run routes, put fear in the defense, and get open with out blown coverage.
There is no help on the way and there is no play offs or division titles, mentioning such things IS A DISGRACE TO HUMANITY.

So what ever your smoking it must be some really good sh*&t,  :)

Keith-N-Jax

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2378
    • Around the World
Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 10:53:53 PM »
Were not bad as you think? your right were horrid if thats a word. Next year I think we make some noise, if Del Zero is still on the Jags sideline, it will be the same ole song. Go Jags prove me wrong win another game we have thirsty posters on here!!!! Go Jags!!!