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Title: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Metro Jacksonville on January 11, 2013, 03:12:35 AM
Riverside YMCA Project Approved

(http://photos.metrojacksonville.com/photos/2314227127_nKGz2P9-M.jpg)

On Thursday, January 10, 2013, the Downtown Development Review Board (DDRB) voted to give final approval to the design of the proposed Riverside YMCA development in Brooklyn.  Here is a look at what will be constructed.

Full Article
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2013-jan-riverside-ymca-project-approved
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Noone on January 11, 2013, 04:49:17 AM
very nice.
So what is the next step?
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Traveller on January 11, 2013, 08:07:18 AM
I assume the second floor will have some weight equipment and not just 7,000 cardio machines.  8)
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: johnny_simpatico on January 11, 2013, 08:19:14 AM
You can be sure the lobby will have a lovely framed print of blond Jesus and a gigantic flat-panel television tuned to Fox News.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: fsujax on January 11, 2013, 08:22:25 AM
no one is forcing you to go there johnny.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: tufsu1 on January 11, 2013, 08:40:08 AM
You can be sure the lobby will have a lovely framed print of blond Jesus and a gigantic flat-panel television tuned to Fox News.

well it is a Christian organization after all....and having been a member at that YMCA before, I can assure you that the stations on the TV in the lobby can be changed
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: If_I_Loved_you on January 11, 2013, 09:12:13 AM
You can be sure the lobby will have a lovely framed print of blond Jesus and a gigantic flat-panel television tuned to Fox News.
Years ago when I went to the YMCA I never saw any photo of Jesus or even a cross? And Fox News on the TV's is just about everywhere you go.  ;)
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Tacachale on January 11, 2013, 09:27:21 AM
Nice site plan. Obviously that huge surface parking lot is not optimal. Though considering what's happening in Brooklyn right now, it's possible we won't be waiting as long for that street side development as we might be elsewhere.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Dog Walker on January 11, 2013, 11:10:09 AM
It's The Y!  You don't have to be young, a man, or Christian, just Associated.

That building is going to be spectacular from the Riverwalk and flooded with sunshine in the mornings.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Jason on January 11, 2013, 11:23:52 AM
The view from the running track will be amazing too! 

I'm really hoping they're able to lock down funding on this development very soon.  Brooklyn is on the verge of becoming a serious boomtown.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: funwithteeth on January 11, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
You can be sure the lobby will have a lovely framed print of blond Jesus and a gigantic flat-panel television tuned to Fox News.

Speaking as both a member of the YMCA and an atheist, I'm wondering how insecure you have to be to let some painting bother you, or that perhaps just one of the many TVs they have is tuned to a channel you don't like.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: 5PointsGuy on January 11, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Wow, Riverside Avenue is shaping up to be quite the urban corridor. Also, the concept drawing looks amazing. I might have to pony up for a membership when the new building is complete.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Roger904 on January 11, 2013, 02:47:10 PM
The floor plans don't show the Metro offices that are slated to be relocated from Mandarin
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: urbaknight on January 11, 2013, 04:48:46 PM
I just hope they can develop the Riverside ave part of the parking lot into that mix use building they've been talking about. But I'm all for parking between the two buildings. People have to park somewhere, until/unless JTA can improve on their part of this whole thing.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 11, 2013, 10:35:35 PM
Holy Crap Batman, I might even be tempted to join up and get fit... Um... Well... maybe not, but it does look very cool.  Actually Libby and I were long time members of the Y in Central Florida - once upon a time.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 11, 2013, 10:37:41 PM
After thought, just for the appearances, sure would be cool to get three or four high rises somewhere between CSX - BCBS - Park Street and River.  It would make the downtown skyline look absolutely first tier.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: vicupstate on January 12, 2013, 08:15:30 AM
Nice design.  Jax will go from one of the most outdated Y facilities to one of the nicest with this new building.  I hope the future Riverside facing part is more than 5 or 6 stories though.  It would be an ideal place for a high rise with office and residential.  It will be a long time before the market can support that, but it would be worth waiting for something great.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: urbaknight on January 14, 2013, 02:52:35 PM
Nice design.  Jax will go from one of the most outdated Y facilities to one of the nicest with this new building.  I hope the future Riverside facing part is more than 5 or 6 stories though.  It would be an ideal place for a high rise with office and residential.  It will be a long time before the market can support that, but it would be worth waiting for something great.


Amen to that!
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: DSG on January 20, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
Aside from the Zoning/Development scheme ideas which have been hotly debated in other threads, I think the architectural design needs fresh vision. It is not a nice design. This looks like a building that would have gone in other cities about 20 years ago. What is it with Jacksonville?
Honestly, the top hat thing over the rotunda will be completely lost on anyone on the river or Riverwalk. But it will make a nice big sign for the helicopters and blimps that fly on gameday! Seriously, spend the money on more sophisticated materials or sunshading or something.
The design is right in its orientation to the river, but beyond that I don't see anything architecturally noteworthy. Just bla. Good architecture would make this city a cool place to live, becoming part of the package that attracts new talent and money.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Charles Hunter on January 20, 2013, 01:54:47 PM
Don't forget the logo being visible on Google and other aerial maps.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: ubben on January 20, 2013, 11:19:44 PM
You can be sure the lobby will have a lovely framed print of blond Jesus and a gigantic flat-panel television tuned to Fox News.

Don't forget about the giant Bible on the pedestal right on the gym floor. Like you're supposed to read about how you'll be punished if you eat shrimp or pork right between tricep sets. I've been a member of Y's in other cities and never seen such kooky attempts of conversion therapy. That First Baptist Church must be run by very insecure nut jobs. And the architectural drawings of the new Y? YAWN! Looks like something you'd see built in Macon.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: tufsu1 on January 21, 2013, 08:25:46 AM
Many YMCA chapters around the country decided a few years ago to put more emphassis on Christian principles (that's what the C stands for you know)...in the case of northeast Florida, that meant hagning pictures of Jesus at the entrance and having visible bibles.

also note that the Y is not run by First Baptist
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: funwithteeth on January 21, 2013, 10:47:01 AM
Again, this whinging on the 'C' part is strange. What about the 'Y' and the 'M'? ubben, did you know that you don't have to be Young or Male to be a member?
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Ocklawaha on January 21, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
You can be sure the lobby will have a lovely framed print of blond Jesus and a gigantic flat-panel television tuned to Fox News.

Don't forget about the giant Bible on the pedestal right on the gym floor. Like you're supposed to read about how you'll be punished if you eat shrimp or pork right between tricep sets. I've been a member of Y's in other cities and never seen such kooky attempts of conversion therapy. That First Baptist Church must be run by very insecure nut jobs. And the architectural drawings of the new Y? YAWN! Looks like something you'd see built in Macon.

Your understanding of the Christian scripture or principals is no doubt exceeded only by your knowledge of First Baptist. The Bible is pretty clear about 'food rules,' in a 'New Testament' era (see below). Of course I'm assuming you are more open minded then the members of FBC you so readily condemn.

Church. Acts 10:12-15
New International Version (NIV)
12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”

14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”

15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.” 

What God hath cleansed - What God has pronounced or declared pure. If God has commanded you to do a thing, it is not impure or wrong. Perhaps Peter would suppose that the design of this vision was to instruct him that the distinction between clean and unclean food, as recognized by the Jews, was about to be abolished, Acts 10:17. But the result showed that it had a higher and more important design. It was to show him that they who had been esteemed by the Jews as unclean or profane - the entire Gentile world - might now be admitted to similar privileges with the Jews. The end result is that Christians may eat anything while our Jewish brethren continue following the laws of the Torah.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: thelakelander on February 06, 2013, 03:10:38 PM
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New Riverside Y project gets $2 million Coggin family donation

Luther Coggin, founder of Coggin Automotive Group, and his wife, Blanche, have donated $2 million for the new Riverside YMCA, which is to be under construction later this year.

full article: http://jacksonville.com/news/health-and-fitness/2013-02-06/story/new-riverside-y-project-gets-2-million-coggin-family#ixzz2K9Sqd1go

Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Jason on February 06, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
^ Woo Hoo!
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: funwithteeth on February 06, 2013, 04:58:54 PM
Someone should give Yates money to buy a new hot-water heater.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Jason on February 06, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
Why would yates need to heat hot water?  :-)
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: funwithteeth on February 06, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
To make it extra hot.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: blfair on February 08, 2013, 02:58:38 PM
I canceled my membership when they let their last good personal trainer walk out the door. They are in desperate need of a new facility however, anything would be an improvement. I'm sure their membership will grow dramatically when this comes to fruition.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: fsujax on December 04, 2013, 11:11:34 AM
Construction set to begin today.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/construction-begins-on-new-riverside-ymca/-/475880/23283154/-/11m0217/-/index.html

Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: TheCat on December 04, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
From Michelle Moore, Communication Director of YMCA:

"Just making sure you are aware of the new Winston Y groundbreaking event tonight. It begins at 4:30pm at Yates on the lawn by the river. Mayor Brown and Councilman Jones will be there, along with our leadership donors including Wayne and Delores Weaver and Florida Blue’s CEO. Mr. Winston will also speak. We have more than 200 RSVPs that include members, donors and community leaders."


Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: thelakelander on December 04, 2013, 11:47:14 AM
Hopefully, they can sell off the surface lot they'll be building along Riverside, sooner rather than later.  That corridor should look completely different in two years or so.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Dapperdan on December 04, 2013, 01:39:44 PM
I still don't like how the building seems to be facing the wrong way, but it is what it is.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: hightowerlover on December 04, 2013, 04:28:13 PM
I think it's a good looking building from the front and back.  Do I think the building is more attractive from the side facing the water, sure.  But why would you want a wide sweeping view of the street when you have a waterfront view?
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Bativac on February 19, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
My wife is a trainer at a local YMCA, and she swears up and down that the word from the regional director is that YMCA has failed to obtain financing for this project. I'm telling her she's nuts - I can pull up news articles showing how much money has been donated for the new facility - but word from her boss, and his boss (etc) is that they're stuck until they can get a loan to build the facility. Has anybody hear heard anything one way or the other? I'm at the Yates YMCA a couple times a week, and I can't say I've noticed anything going on over there. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jcjohnpaint on February 19, 2014, 06:23:19 PM
I was there the other day and asked one of the managers.  They said the project is stalled due to parking issues.  They have to issue so many permits because they are going to be losing a lot of spaces until the new building goes up.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: urbaknight on February 22, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
Parking parking parking it's always about parking! Here's a solution, IMPROVE MASS TRANSIT!!!
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxjaguar on May 27, 2014, 01:54:11 PM
Anyone know when construction will begin? I saw they moved the sign recently, but it doesn't look like construction will begin anytime soon based on activity...
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Badfinger on May 27, 2014, 04:40:08 PM
My wife is a trainer at a local YMCA, and she swears up and down that the word from the regional director is that YMCA has failed to obtain financing for this project. I'm telling her she's nuts - I can pull up news articles showing how much money has been donated for the new facility - but word from her boss, and his boss (etc) is that they're stuck until they can get a loan to build the facility. Has anybody hear heard anything one way or the other? I'm at the Yates YMCA a couple times a week, and I can't say I've noticed anything going on over there. But I could be wrong.
Your wife is correct.

The project has stalled due to two primary donors pulling their support once they learned that the plan was not to fully fund the project through donations but to use raised funds to gain financing instead.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Pottsburg on May 27, 2014, 06:17:06 PM
I have heard the same from 2 different YMCA employees. One is on the administration/hr side of things. She said they missed the bank loan by 2 points. Whatever that means.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxjaguar on May 28, 2014, 07:58:25 AM
My wife is a trainer at a local YMCA, and she swears up and down that the word from the regional director is that YMCA has failed to obtain financing for this project. I'm telling her she's nuts - I can pull up news articles showing how much money has been donated for the new facility - but word from her boss, and his boss (etc) is that they're stuck until they can get a loan to build the facility. Has anybody hear heard anything one way or the other? I'm at the Yates YMCA a couple times a week, and I can't say I've noticed anything going on over there. But I could be wrong.
Your wife is correct.

The project has stalled due to two primary donors pulling their support once they learned that the plan was not to fully fund the project through donations but to use raised funds to gain financing instead.

I don't understand the logic behind pulling support if the Y needed financing as well... Not building will only negatively impact the area / the perception of that Y.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Bativac on May 28, 2014, 09:15:05 AM
My wife is a trainer at a local YMCA, and she swears up and down that the word from the regional director is that YMCA has failed to obtain financing for this project. I'm telling her she's nuts - I can pull up news articles showing how much money has been donated for the new facility - but word from her boss, and his boss (etc) is that they're stuck until they can get a loan to build the facility. Has anybody hear heard anything one way or the other? I'm at the Yates YMCA a couple times a week, and I can't say I've noticed anything going on over there. But I could be wrong.
Your wife is correct.

The project has stalled due to two primary donors pulling their support once they learned that the plan was not to fully fund the project through donations but to use raised funds to gain financing instead.

It's a shame this project is indefinitely stalled. It's a bigger shame that I have to tell my wife she's right about something.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxinatl on May 28, 2014, 05:44:53 PM
With them being a nonprofit and the outrageous monthly fees and fee they charge for a weekly membership there shouldnt be a financial issue.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Buforddawg on June 01, 2014, 06:10:49 PM
Yet another disappointment for Jacksonville.  So two "Big" donors pulled their donations because the Y was going for financing.  So what was the Y planning to do with the donations?

1. Use in combination with the financing to build the new facility, in which case makes it looks like the "big" donations weren't very big.
2. Use the money to fund operations?  I could see why the donors would pull out then, misuse of funds that were to be specifically used for building the facility.

Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: edjax on June 01, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
Per an article in the T-U a few days ago indicated that the full amount to build the project had not yet been donated and the loan that is being sought was a bridge loan to allow construction to begin prior to collecting domnations to cover the full cost. The article also indicated that they have NOT lost any donors. 
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxbuilder on June 01, 2014, 09:35:34 PM
That seems too bad . It would have been and awesome addition to to The Riverfront. I hope they work it out soon because YATES is falling apart fast !
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: thelakelander on June 01, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
Delays happen. Doesn't seem like much to worry about to me. It will just take longer than originally anticipated.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Buforddawg on June 01, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
Per an article in the T-U a few days ago indicated that the full amount to build the project had not yet been donated and the loan that is being sought was a bridge loan to allow construction to begin prior to collecting domnations to cover the full cost. The article also indicated that they have NOT lost any donors.

The gap loan  makes sense and I hope that they haven't lost any donors. 
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: urbaknight on June 02, 2014, 01:20:21 PM
I'll bet anything(exept for my soul) that this priject is dead. They should use whatever funding they still have and just renovate the existing building. Way to go Jacksonville, typical outcome.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: edjax on June 02, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
Way to go Urbanknignt, typical comment. So now you want them to renovate the existing building and on another thread where you declared it dead you wanted them to sell the property so some Yankee could build one of those tall pretty shiny buildings you yearn for all the time.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: funwithteeth on June 02, 2014, 02:14:22 PM
I'd also like to see proof how the city government—who I assume he means when he blames Jacksonville—when funding fell through when one private company was trying to get money from another private company. Which is something that happens all the time everywhere.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: TheCat on June 02, 2014, 02:20:32 PM
YMCA Official Response about development. They are open to questions from anyone and are aware of this thread.

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Hello, Arash.
 
At the end of 2013, we shared news about our ongoing commitment to serving the downtown and Riverside communities with the building of the new Winston Family YMCA on Riverside Avenue. Financing for a project the size and scope of this one is a complex matter, and unfortunately, we were not able to reach consensus with our lender on certain terms of the loan agreement after working with them for several months. As a result, we immediately began working to identify another lending partner to help us make the project a reality. The project is certainly not dead.
 
Rest assured that we remain committed to building this new Y for the Riverside community and the underserved neighborhoods surrounding it downtown. We remain optimistic despite this temporary delay and are eager to commence work.
 
 
NIKOS WESTMORELAND, APR
Vice President of Communications
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: simms3 on June 02, 2014, 05:13:57 PM
Way to go Urbanknignt, typical comment. So now you want them to renovate the existing building and on another thread where you declared it dead you wanted them to sell the property so some Yankee could build one of those tall pretty shiny buildings you yearn for all the time.

Typical.  lol

I'd also like to see proof how the city government—who I assume he means when he blames Jacksonville—when funding fell through when one private company was trying to get money from another private company. Which is something that happens all the time everywhere.

I agree, nothing to do with City of Jacksonville.  Honestly, I don't think a non-profit Y taking up prime riverfront land is even a good thing for the city.  It's not highest and best use and doesn't translate into highest amount of tax dollars available to city coffers.

Unfortunately, if they are seeking a bridge loan to commence construction before full funding is available, then I think this is dead in the water.  We aren't talking a high credit organization here with a large balance sheet and liquid assets; we are talking receiving financing in the hopes that more donors come to the table for this one small non-profit gym.  Talk about a high interest loan, if it even exists!

If an organization doesn't have the backing or wherewithal to open a line of credit (a much larger scale type of bridge loan situation...used for similar reasons, like my firm uses an unsecured LoC to close on acquisitions before financing is in place), then it probably can't receive a bridge.

I would be afraid to be a minor donor for these reasons, as well, though if I had a ton of money, it would be an amazing opportunity to give back to seal the deal and receive naming rights, etc etc.  Where is that big fish donor?
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Buforddawg on June 02, 2014, 09:25:54 PM
I take back my negative comments on the Y's delayed construction.  I was relying on faulty information given earlier in this thread - Donors pulled out.   I think the VP of Communications needs to have chat with the staff and tell them to stop giving out the wrong information to friends and/or the general public.  All questions about the project should go to the communications department.  That's how it is where I work, loose lips and you get fired.

It's easy to get excited when a new project is announce, but equally disappointing when the new project gets delayed or worse, falls through. 

Hopefully the Y can reach an equitable deal with a new lender and get this project going.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: vicupstate on June 03, 2014, 04:53:17 AM
While a beautiful facility, I agree with Simms that they should build elsewhere. It should have either gone across Riverside Ave., or been part of a mixed use mid or high rise.   
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: tufsu1 on June 03, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
While a beautiful facility, I agree with Simms that they should build elsewhere. It should have either gone across Riverside Ave., or been part of a mixed use mid or high rise.   

at one time, the Y was considering moving off the river and putting their existing property up for sale.  Their members said that one of the reasons they like the facility is its location on the river.  As such, the new design takes advantage of riverfront views with large picture windows looking out from the workout area.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: MEGATRON on June 03, 2014, 09:05:48 AM
I'd love to see the Y move more inland and sell the riverfront property to the highest bidder such that it can better fund construction of a new facility.  Perhaps the City could give the Y the park space across from the Humane Society on Forest Street then convert the former incinerator property adjacent to McCoy's Creek to a public park.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Bill Hoff on April 20, 2015, 01:55:29 PM
I believe this project will begin this May. Better late than never.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxjaguar on April 20, 2015, 03:43:02 PM
Wait... seriously? Why isn't this all over the news??
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Noone on April 20, 2015, 11:29:22 PM
Wait... seriously? Why isn't this all over the news??

Because they don't want anyone to know about the restricted Public Access and Economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative in our super duper restricted 2014-560 CRA/DIA zone from the Fuller Warren Bridge to the Mathews Bridge?

HEY JACKSONVILLE! We have a BARGE! Does Putnam county know about this?

Visit Jacksonville!

Tides are looking good. Plan on doing a RICO kayak paddle Downtown.

Be sure to ride 2014-412 and be transported from one illegal side of the RIO St. Johns to the other illegal side of the RIO St. Johns. You can't make this stuff up.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: KenFSU on October 07, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
$500k pledge from the Jaguars Foundation for this project:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/morning-edition/2015/10/jaguars-foundation-pledges-500-000-to-new.html
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Captain Zissou on October 07, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
I walked by yesterday at lunch and it looks like they're about to tilt up the first panels.  They were attaching supports to some concrete slabs and i'm guessing that they'll be upright today.  There are a few decent columns standing far back from the river.  I just hope that Hallmark or somebody buys and builds on the front parcel quickly.  Once they move out, that old building will be an eyesore (already is, but I'm guessing it will get worse).
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: thelakelander on October 07, 2015, 10:15:48 AM
I think they're going to demolish the old building and turn it into a surface parking lot, when the new one is complete.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: acme54321 on October 07, 2015, 10:23:00 AM
I walked by yesterday at lunch and it looks like they're about to tilt up the first panels.  They were attaching supports to some concrete slabs and i'm guessing that they'll be upright today.  There are a few decent columns standing far back from the river.  I just hope that Hallmark or somebody buys and builds on the front parcel quickly.  Once they move out, that old building will be an eyesore (already is, but I'm guessing it will get worse).

They had a few upright yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Steve on October 07, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
I think they're going to demolish the old building and turn it into a surface parking lot, when the new one is complete.

They are willing to sell though-hopefully they make a good decision with someone decent.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: KenFSU on October 03, 2016, 10:56:49 PM
Finally had a chance to check out the new Y today. If you haven't taken the time to see it in person, pictures don't do it justice. It's stunning. Also, I didn't see any signs of impending demolition of the old structure. Anyone know if demolition + surface lot is still the plan? You've gotta think that parcel fronting Riverside would be attractive to someone.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: pierre on October 04, 2016, 08:15:10 AM
I cancelled my membership a while ago. The Yates building was just awful. Cramped spaces, outdated equipment. Not worth the money.

I may need to check out the new space.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: KenFSU on October 04, 2016, 10:52:54 AM
Finally had a chance to check out the new Y today. If you haven't taken the time to see it in person, pictures don't do it justice. It's stunning. Also, I didn't see any signs of impending demolition of the old structure. Anyone know if demolition + surface lot is still the plan? You've gotta think that parcel fronting Riverside would be attractive to someone.

Jax Daily Record just answered my question.

Sounds promising:

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Old YMCA in Riverside to be demolished; brokers already fielding inquiries
Tuesday, October 4, 10:42 AM EDT
By Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor

With the new riverfront Winston Family YMCA up and running, the old building on the street side is coming down and the site is for sale.
Burkhalter Wrecking Inc. expects to start demolishing the 63-year-old structure at 221 Riverside Ave. in the next few weeks, pending permitting.

The YMCA of Florida’s First Coast said the tentative timeline is for demolition of the former Yates Family YMCA to start Monday and be completed by Jan. 31...

Listing agent Carmen Mantay with NAI Hallmark Partners said she and fellow listing broker Keith Goldfaden have been fielding inquiries regarding the YMCA site.

“We are extremely pleased with the activity we’ve had so far on the property,” she said Monday.

Mantay said the property is considered attractive because of its prime walkable location at Riverside Avenue and Jackson Street within the Brooklyn neighborhood near Downtown.

The property benefits from direct access to the new $21 million YMCA and the Northbank Riverwalk while being in walking distance from corporate headquarters, restaurants, retailers and apartment buildings.

The 2-acre site is zoned CRO — community, residential and office — and is being marketed as ideal for hotel, retail, residential and mixed-use, providing views of the St. Johns River and Downtown with more than 23,000 cars a day driving by...

“People from all over the country have shown interest in the site, including mixed-use, multifamily, hotel and retail developers. We are working with these developers to create a site plan that will work for the YMCA, the developer and the neighborhood,” Mantay said.

The YMCA said while no listing price is mentioned, the agency is considering offers that would include the construction of a 300-space parking structure that would be dedicated to the Winston Family YMCA.

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Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxjaguar on October 04, 2016, 11:04:03 AM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: funwithteeth on October 04, 2016, 11:35:43 AM
I cancelled my membership a while ago. The Yates building was just awful. Cramped spaces, outdated equipment. Not worth the money.
You failed to add constant leaks whenever it rained ;)

Anyway, I quit for similar reasons in the spring of '14, but I'm back in the fold now. The place is really nice. They just need to finish up what exterior construction is remaining because the parking lot can be a bit of a mess during peak business hours.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: thelakelander on October 04, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
lol, 40 to 50 stories? Yeah, that's not happening.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Captain Zissou on October 04, 2016, 12:41:20 PM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
lol, 40 to 50 stories? Yeah, that's not happening.
50 stories with an aquarium and observation deck on top!!
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: jaxjaguar on October 04, 2016, 12:45:57 PM
I SAID LET ME DREAM LAKE! lol
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: BridgeTroll on October 04, 2016, 01:05:03 PM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
lol, 40 to 50 stories? Yeah, that's not happening.
50 stories with an aquarium and observation deck on top!!

With a zipline!
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: pierre on October 04, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
lol, 40 to 50 stories? Yeah, that's not happening.
50 stories with an aquarium and observation deck on top!!

Where will the Bass Pro Shop go?
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: KenFSU on October 04, 2016, 02:28:34 PM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
lol, 40 to 50 stories? Yeah, that's not happening.
50 stories with an aquarium and observation deck on top!!

Where will the Bass Pro Shop go?

Adjacent to Fuddruckers.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Captain Zissou on October 04, 2016, 02:53:05 PM
Back to being serious:  I walked past today on the riverwalk and I am pretty disappointed with Wayne and Delores Weaver "Park".  It's just a strip of grass that slopes up to the Y from the riverwalk.  I hope they do more with that in the future.  It would be a great space for Yoga or active uses for the Y to utilize and passers by along the river.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Noone on October 04, 2016, 03:14:22 PM
^I was there today after 11. Incoming tide.  Parked in the Public two hour parking lot next to the Sydney Gefen FIND kayak launch. Walked up and Sunbelt was picking up some of the big equipment. Took a pic of the No Fishing sign in front of the Tillie Fowler piece of art. Beautiful day. Through in some Environmental Ethics-Vince Seibold. Picked up some garbage just laying there on the Riverwalk.

Visit Jacksonville! We aren't LOST.
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Noone on October 04, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
^was just about to post that haha. Man, if there was ever a spot for a multiuse high-rise, I don't think a developer could ask for anything better. You could put up a 40-50 story building with hotel space, offices, a few shops/restaurants and apartments and sell it out due to its location/marketability/walkability. First floor shops, next 9-10 parking. Before someone tells me this will never happen, let me dream for a few minutes. Lol
lol, 40 to 50 stories? Yeah, that's not happening.
50 stories with an aquarium and observation deck on top!!

Where will the Bass Pro Shop go?

Adjacent to Fuddruckers.

That's funny. That explains the NO FISHING signs.
Does Putnam county know about this?
Title: Re: Riverside YMCA Project Approved
Post by: Captain Zissou on October 05, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
^Yeah I think the Baltimore guys told them.