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Author Topic: Restored Bridge of Lions Has Dozens of Malfunctions  (Read 3248 times)

NthDegree

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Re: Restored Bridge of Lions Has Dozens of Malfunctions
« Reply #120 on: September 04, 2011, 11:14:22 AM »
Hope this helps answer some of your questions Chris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX5YQn-PXjs&feature=player_embedded


Well the time-lapse segment beginning around 2:00 certainly shows exactly how much of the historic material they left, doesn't it.

Yes, it is the deck where most of the new material is.   Dashing Dan is spot on.         

ChriswUfGator

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Re: Restored Bridge of Lions Has Dozens of Malfunctions
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2011, 04:36:57 PM »
Hope this helps answer some of your questions Chris.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX5YQn-PXjs&feature=player_embedded


Well the time-lapse segment beginning around 2:00 certainly shows exactly how much of the historic material they left, doesn't it.

Yes, it is the deck where most of the new material is.   Dashing Dan is spot on.         

Well, they removed almost all of the original concrete pilings and supports, and pretty much every other component except the original two towers, the lion statues, and arches. I wouldn't call this spot-on, as I've already demonstrated by posting and comparing the federal guidelines to what occurred on this project. The video is simply additional proof that what I've said all along was accurate, not that we really needed any more. Watch that vid again and tell me with a straight face that most of that bridge wasn't replaced vs. restored, according to the DOI guidelines.

Once again, it's a nice bridge. I like it. Not sure what we're arguing about, since what's done is done.


ChriswUfGator

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Re: Restored Bridge of Lions Has Dozens of Malfunctions
« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2011, 04:45:03 PM »
please do not question the attorney when it comes to engineering

I had nothing to do with the design, I'm just pointing out the relevant law and comparing that to what actually occurred on this project. There was clearly a mandate that original materials be maintained unless doing so was economically infeasible. In this case, it was half the price of replacing it with a new bridge, which was actually done. So pardon me for pointing out that, in that sense, and a few others, the project did not meet the guidelines. Moreover, two years later, and one can only wonder whether some of it may have been in response to this project, the USDOI set forth new guidelines for historic bridges, under which this scale of project on that bridge would never have been approved. Not that this is Nth or Dan's fault, the guidelines weren't passed until 2 years after it had already been done. It was much more ambiguous when the project was being contemplated than it is now, in fact I will admit that pre-2008 it was far more ambiguous than I thought it was before we had this debate. So I learned from it also.

And sorry for the belated response, but I don't normally read this section often and missed the replies until today.


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