Springfield Community Meeting - 11/05 @ 7pm

[stephendare]

I meant I would simply have to forgo a troll for my garden.  No reflection on your wonderful flowers

Luckily we have no such prohibition about cats here, otherwise at least 30 people would have to rethink their membership

[chris farley]

But I liked what you said - I think I am going to have a sign made for my fence - Come have tea in my tacky flower garden -  seriously I like it maybe Gin will paint it for me

[stephendare]

And if your lovely daughter demurs, consider me at your service.

[ChriswUfGator]

Chris you are correct in one thing, I do not know if and when they have been submitted anywhere, I just try and fund raise for Springfield.  Actually and I know this will not ba accepted, I mis read COJ and thought you were referring to FTU - my mistake,  I did not recheck.

No, it's OK Chris, and this certainly isn't your fault, or your doing. From all accounts, including sheclown's, you're a conscientious person who cares about the neighborhood. I don't think you're engaged in the SPAR behavior that so many (including me) find offensive, but at the same time I wonder whether you're really getting the full story from Louise & Co. on exactly what happened with this "petition"?

Obviously you asked them what happened, and rightly so. It's just that I'm just unsure whether you'd have gotten any less of a dishonest answer than what usually comes out of that group. I mean, it's not like they're just going to come right out and say "Oh yeah, we tried getting some 'extra' signatures and got busted...hehehe". Naturally, they're going to give you some B.S. excuse that makes no sense. That's to be expected. And it sounds like that is exactly what happened.

[cindi]

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

really? Says who?? There seems to be a lot of people reading minds around here. She does NOT speak for me or have my pulse.

Not my words or my belief or my desire and I do not wish to be liked by Stephen

When is the SHARP meeting I wish to go

Luckily you have nothing to fear on this score.

I suppose when I get around to planting a tacky flower garden, I shall simply have to choose another form of ornament.   Ceramic frogs perhaps?

Have you tried emailing the sharp group?

You should try it tomorrow morning, before all the tea drinking begins.

If you have already emailed them, perhaps they have their reasons for not returning your email.

wow, talk about bunny boiling inappropriate.

[sheclown]

Chris, one of my desires for the SHARP group is to put together all we have of Springfield's history and get it internet accessible.  In this capacity, your aid is very much requested and appreciated. 

Right now, we are in the Talking About What We are Going to Do stage.

Cindi, you are wasting your talent in that nurse's uniform -- you ought to be a writer.

[Dark Knight]

How many cats constitute an illegal feline rooming house ?

[PorchCats]

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

really? Says who?? There seems to be a lot of people reading minds around here. She does NOT speak for me or have my pulse.

Wow - I'll consider this post a badge of honor. You're just nobody in Springfield until you've been blasted by cindi on a public forum. And after only a handful of posts! I'll say this for cindi: at least her general contempt and disdain is observably equal opportunity. 

[sheclown]

Yeah, Cindi is sort of like that cute pit bull in the neighbor's yard.  You're kind of glad she's there, but you don't really want to stick your hand in the fence, either.

[cindi]

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

really? Says who?? There seems to be a lot of people reading minds around here. She does NOT speak for me or have my pulse.

Wow - I'll consider this post a badge of honor. You're just nobody in Springfield until you've been blasted by cindi on a public forum. And after only a handful of posts! I'll say this for cindi: at least her general contempt and disdain is observably equal opportunity. 

really? don't flatter yourself.  "blasted" (wow, a little exagerrated huh - but hey that's the springfield way) because i disagree that Chris Farley has my "pulse", how RUDE of me to question the almighty.  how about the fact that everyone in springfield should consider themselves nobodies because evidently only a few people speak for everyone.  i have disdain and general contempt for people that are presumtive in believing they either truly know me or what i think and want.
as for your sheclown, go ahead, stick your hand in the fence again.  since you both seem to think you know what i am thinking - try it now.
WRONG, i am thinking - hey Karl, it's time for BBQ

[chris farley]

Pulse was not meant literally, it meant maybe knowing something about the neighborhood, but please do not use my name again in messages like the previous
The following by Mark Slaughter, not directed at anyone in particular

Hate has burned a gaping hole -
The rancid reek of charring flesh
Is dancing on my very soul.
And as the rising fumes enmesh
My crumpled heart, I play the role
Of crabby fart, gassing off
A diatribe; bleeding out a
Bitter part: an ugly twisted man

[cindi]

the post was not directed at you but instead at the arrogance of the person making that statement.  perhaps they should have asked your permission to post your name as i was merely quoting the post.  the following by francis duggan, not directed at anyone in particular.
I never could like them and them I just tolerate
Those arrogant people who think they are great
They build themselves up by putting others down
And you meet them on every Street in every Town.

The opinions of others they dismiss offhand
And not one thing about empathy do they understand
They hurt others feelings yet remorse never show
And anything about kindness they do not seem to know.

They only seem to seek their own glorious hour
And they get themselves into positions of power
They are leaders in Government of us that surely say
That we do not choose wisely on Election Day.

Arrogant people are or were never rare
And for the feelings of others they never do care
Their bank accounts big and their values are small
And they don't believe in a fair go for all.

Arrogant people convince us that they are born to lead
For power and control they have in them this need
And the little power we have to them we do give
Though they don't believe in live and let live.

[Karl_Pilkington]

WRONG, i am thinking - hey Karl, it's time for BBQ

well looks like the fires lit, all you need is some nice hickory or oak, get a good smoke going.

[strider]

I went to this meeting intending not to talk but to listen.  To listen to what Louise and Company had to say.  To listen to what the residents had to say.

Someone earlier used the term “eye opening”.  It was, even for me.  I really didn’t think they would be so blatant about what they really believe.  Yes, “eye opening”.   Unfortunately for Louise and Company, it doesn’t seem like it was in the way they had hoped.

Like some are using various comments to deflect away from the real issues in this very thread, this entire meeting’s purpose, in my opinion,  was one of deflection.  Get the people riled up about the supposed illegal rooming houses, get them really pissed off at Joe and Gloria, among others that seemed to remain unnamed, and maybe no one will notice that we aren’t addressing the real issues.  Like why no elections … again.  Why Louise sent an e-mail stating that she was angry two historic homes did not get approved for demolition.  And, just for the record, I have checked out those houses and I agree they deserved a better look and probably be saved.  There are lots of unanswered questions.  And no hope of getting answers, at least not real answers, or so it would seem to be the case at the moment. 

Yep, and I learned a couple of things… Proton patients are much better people than most of us who live and work in Springfield and if you run an illegal rooming house but rent to proton patients, it’s probably OK.  Louise doesn’t seem to know the codes very well and Michael Trautman believes everyone should stalk anyone suspected of living in an illegal rooming house.  Then , even though this meeting was about rooming houses, they failed bring at least one copy of the  lists they were talking about with them.  Yes, a very interesting and informative meeting after all.

[fsu813]

"Yep, and I learned a couple of things… Proton patients are much better people than most of us who live and work in Springfield and if you run an illegal rooming house but rent to proton patients, it’s probably OK.  Louise doesn’t seem to know the codes very well and Michael Trautman believes everyone should stalk anyone suspected of living in an illegal rooming house.  Then , even though this meeting was about rooming houses, they failed bring at least one copy of the  lists they were talking about with them.  Yes, a very interesting and informative meeting after all."

- 2 notes and then i'm done talking about this issue for a long while:

1) you play the victim well.
2) your wild distortion/exaggeration of statements in the meeting is basically lying.

i'm taking a vacation from this issue on MJ.