Springfield Community Meeting - 11/05 @ 7pm

[stephendare]

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

really? Says who?? There seems to be a lot of people reading minds around here. She does NOT speak for me or have my pulse.

Its easy to like you, cindi.

[chris farley]

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

really? Says who?? There seems to be a lot of people reading minds around here. She does NOT speak for me or have my pulse.

Not my words or my belief or my desire and I do not wish to be liked by Stephen

When is the SHARP meeting I wish to go

[AlexS]

They circulated a petition at the SHADCO meeting too?

It was actually at the National Night Out. I was there.

[chris farley]

Sorry I called it the police night, I think of it as that

[ChriswUfGator]

Was there any date on this petition that indicated it was from a prior meeting, or just a blank form labeled "PETITION"?

Because personally, I still put the odds of someone 'accidentally' grabbing forms that were a petition against rooming houses, and using them as a sign-in sheet at this meeting, which coincidentally enough was about how we don't want rooming houses, at somewhere around 0.

That's just an awfully coincidental 'mistake', and frankly, claiming that it was 'accidental' just defies all logic, especially given the lengthy history of these type of shenanigans by the same people. And if there was no pre-printed date, it could, and probably would, have been submitted to COJ as new evidence of the neighborhood's opinion on the issue.

[cindi]

- soxfan & Matt M, If you honestly think they were trying "trick" people into signing the petition then they wouldn't have put the paragraph explaining the petiton at the of of the page. Like someone said, it didn't exactly relate to the what was being discussed even. They could have been sneaky and placed it somewhere other than the top of the front page (....not the best place to out something they don't want you to read, huh). Or completely lied all together and gotten signatures then typed the petion info on the top afterwards. There are many sneaky ways to go about it, again - placing a paragraph at the top of the front page is not one of them, espcially whejn it's nopt exactly related to the topic.

wow, so spar is in such financial shambles that they are having to recycle "sign in forms"? for an organization that is so big on crossting t's and dotting i's, that seems a little sloppy.

[cindi]

was there any BBQ last night?  that would have been a nice thing for SPAR to have offered, I might have attended for free BBQ.

you know, actually, if all these poser swami's really knew anything they would know that everything goes better with a deep fried turkey.  i'm voting - scones with bones. 

[Karl_Pilkington]

everything goes better with a deep fried turkey. 

sounds like there may have been a couple of those on the SPAR agenda last night.

[chris farley]

Was there any date on this petition that indicated it was from a prior meeting, or just a blank form labeled "PETITION"?

Because personally, I still put the odds of someone 'accidentally' grabbing forms that were a petition against rooming houses, and using them as a sign-in sheet at this meeting, which coincidentally enough was about how we don't want rooming houses, at somewhere around 0.

That's just an awfully coincidental 'mistake', and frankly, claiming that it was 'accidental' just defies all logic, especially given the lengthy history of these type of shenanigans by the same people. And if there was no pre-printed date, it could, and probably would, have been submitted to COJ as new evidence of the neighborhood's opinion on the issue.

It definitely was from a previous meeting and it was one of about 6 clipboards that was picked up, and the 25 odd signatures from last night have been shredded due to the mistake.  If they wished to submit signatures to FTU they could have done the 100 or so they got on National Night out a long long time ago but they have not.
Also SPAR is recycling other papers and no longer throw away anything with just one side used.  Nothing wrong with that.
But more importantly - whenn is the SHARP meeting I wish to go

Surely there is nothing devious here and it is being kept secret

[ChriswUfGator]

If they wished to submit signatures to FTU they could have done the 100 or so they got on National Night out a long long time ago but they have not.

They collected signatures and didn't submit them? You sure about that? Why would anyone do that?

[cindi]

If they wished to submit signatures to FTU they could have done the 100 or so they got on National Night out a long long time ago but they have not.

Wow, you have no idea how much it pains me to say this, that's a good question. Now excuse me while I go see if hell froze over.
They collected signatures and didn't submit them? You sure about that? Why would anyone do that?

[chris farley]

If they wished to submit signatures to FTU they could have done the 100 or so they got on National Night out a long long time ago but they have not.

Wow, you have no idea how much it pains me to say this, that's a good question. Now excuse me while I go see if hell froze over.
They collected signatures and didn't submit them? You sure about that? Why would anyone do that?

Have you seen anything in the FTU, maybe call them and see if they have them on file

AND   When is the SHARP meeting I wish to go

[ChriswUfGator]

If they wished to submit signatures to FTU they could have done the 100 or so they got on National Night out a long long time ago but they have not.

Wow, you have no idea how much it pains me to say this, that's a good question. Now excuse me while I go see if hell froze over.
They collected signatures and didn't submit them? You sure about that? Why would anyone do that?

Have you seen anything in the FTU, maybe call them and see if they have them on file

Chris, you don't really have to do any digging on this one to figure out you got sold a bill of goods. I mean, that doesn't even make sense. Why would SPAR bother with some petition drive and collect a bunch of signatures, only to NOT use them? It sounds like you may have been told a version of events that was intended to portray things in a more flattering light.

But even if they never submitted the formal petition to COJ, then you can still bet that this signature list was dragged out at every meeting Louise had with code enforcement, zoning, the GC's office, or that councilman she's been pestering. They may not have submitted the formal petition, but I guarantee you she's been using that list. And it equally defies logic that someone could "accidentally" switch a sign-in sheet out for an anti-rooming house petition, at an anti-rooming house meeting. Sure you have to admit, that's a little too coincidental.

[chris farley]

Chris you are correct in one thing, I do not know if and when they have been submitted anywhere, I just try and fund raise for Springfield.  Actually and I know this will not ba accepted, I mis read COJ and thought you were referring to FTU - my mistake,  I did not recheck.

Will you tell me where the SHARP meeting is going to be held and when?

[stephendare]

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

really? Says who?? There seems to be a lot of people reading minds around here. She does NOT speak for me or have my pulse.

Not my words or my belief or my desire and I do not wish to be liked by Stephen

When is the SHARP meeting I wish to go

Luckily you have nothing to fear on this score.

I suppose when I get around to planting a tacky flower garden, I shall simply have to choose another form of ornament.   Ceramic frogs perhaps?

Have you tried emailing the sharp group?

You should try it tomorrow morning, before all the tea drinking begins.

If you have already emailed them, perhaps they have their reasons for not returning your email.