New Convenience Store

[jason_contentdg]

If you are for the approval of the car wash it is imperative to show your support at the council meeting on the 12th at 1pm.

Based on the information Silas shared with us today, and what he has submitted so far, the planning department is passing on a report to council to deny the exception.  It may be possible to post the actual report soon.

We are working with Silas to show renderings of what and how the car wash will actually work.  I think it will help explain what Silas is trying to accomplish with this piece of property.  He is spending the majority of his money on site improvements (he has already paid for and installed the automated equipment), and will paint and fix up the building to a point that he can afford.

We will post some images as they are finished in the coming days.

Thanks...

[fsu813]

this would be a good topic to bring up this evening at the community meeting...

[jason_contentdg]

Unfortunately Greg and I have to be at the Emerging Design Professional's Urban Facelift Project competition kickoff, but hopefully the topic can be brought up for discussion at the meeting.

I wish we had images to share for the meeting, but we we've just begun the process.

[fsu813]

isn't that at Walkers?

[jason_contentdg]

It will be at the Sinclair.

[stephendare]

There are actually two more.

The Springfield neighborhood after protests and mayhem from a small group of residents managed to completely destroy the possibilities of retail in their district, and after a brief, optimistic period, the residents began moving out and the area declined again.

or

This guy opened up a carwash, although there was a brief kerfluffle amongst the residents before he opened, leaving bad feelings that never went away.

Eventually Main Street became a tight knit community of merchants who were able to survive because they did NOT serve the needs of SPAR, making the area SPARproof.

[fsu813]

If it were on Main Street noone would have a problem with it.

[cindi]

If it were on Main Street noone would have a problem with it.

really?? and under whose authority do you have to speak for all of springfield? last time i checked, i do live in springfield and no one has asked my permission to speak for me.

[jason_contentdg]

If it were on Main Street noone would have a problem with it.

Up and down main street, commercial goes back to at least the alleyways on each side.  The curb cuts leading to the mixed use third and main development are the same distance off of 3rd street as these would be on 4th street.

[thelakelander]

I agree with Jason and have stated the same position earlier in this thread.  If the only public street that abuts the property is 4th, its also against the law to deny it access. 

[sheclown]

When is the meeting?  Will there be an opportunity to speak for the car wash?

[sheclown]

where?

[ChriswUfGator]

I can't see why anyone would have had a problem with this place to begin with.

Especially after the Lem Turner carwash closed down, how long do you have to drive to get the car washed if you live in Springfield? I guess there are a few of those places on Main where it's all hand-washed, but those are really more like detail shops and it takes an hour and a half, so it's not real practical on an ongoing basis.

The closest real carwashes I know of are way down by Roosevelt Mall, or on Beach Boulevard. Who wants to drive 30 minutes each way to get the car washed? You'd think people would be lining up to support this thing...

[fsu813]

I do lean toward supporting it, sure. And I hope it's a positive and successful venture (in that order).

Cindi, yes, if it were on Main & not 4th then noone would have a problem with it. call me psychic i guess.

[thelakelander]

If this is how people really feel, they can go ahead and give up on the dream of Main becoming a walkable vibrant commercial corridor.  For infill development to overcome all the existing negativity and be walkable, access to parking from side streets are a must.

Walkable (parking behind buildings and accessible from side streets like 4th)






My guess is that the 4th Street thing is a cop out. If it were a Panera Bread, facing Main with the parking lot behind the building, meaning direct access to 4th, no one would have a problem behind.  The proof.....3rd and Main.  I don't remember there being a huge outcry of negativity around a project three times the density and size, with a drive directly to 3rd Street.  If the thing faced Main, people would still complain.

Anyway, I have a copy of the report.  The planning department is listening to those who don't want it and recommending denial.  I'll try and post it later today.