New Convenience Store

[stephendare]

Well I dont think you do.  As a matter of fact, Im pretty sure you don't.

And if your ability to accurately judge any of those things is NOYFB (according to the urban slang dictionary, this apparently means "none of your fucking business")  then I think its fair to assume that the business plans of other people are also NOYFB.

[nvrenuf]

Anyone know who the contractor is renovating/building the car wash? I am looking to renovate one on NAS Jax and add a touch-free, and hopefully have it LEED certified. Please email...

Or if anyone knows of someone who is experienced...

Thanks...
Phil Collins

Hey Phil, I think Johnny looked into it as a potential venture not oh so long ago. He may still have some of that info for you.

Best of luck,
The other Phil

[fsu813]

Zoo asked:

"Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing?"

- per Matt McVay, they are no longer in business. He knows the old locations of both though.

[Matt M]

Not saying I'm for or against at this point. Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing?

You should just stop by and talk to him if you have any questions.  He had one near Edgewood and Lem Turner that he sold and also near Beach and St Johns.  Also, someone from SAMBA should go talk to him.

[thelakelander]

Btw, the same could go for Uptown Market.  If things don't work out, what stops them from changing their commercial model to something that's already allowed by the zoning, that will lead to more profitability?  Why wasn't the same concern addressed with them?

Why wasn't the same concern addressed with Gallery Restaurant Group? That's is an easy one, Lake...

Gallery Restaurant Group is a proven commodity.

Coca Cola has been successful for over a century but they bombed on Clear Coke.  Gallery has proven that they know how to run a burrito restaurant, but Uptown Market is a different product in a different environment (I'm not against them, just using them as an example).  

Anyway, you can subsitute exhibit A with B,C,D and more.  How about Three Layers, 9th & Main (the early years), Fusion or City kidz?  The examples are interchangable but the underlying zoning realities (that are really at the heart of this discussion) remain the same.

Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing?

I figured this info would come from those he presented in front of, assuming that this would be a natural question to pop up if his presentation included him claiming he had other properties.  Anyone have any info on this?

[fsu813]

I just posted it above.

Both of them have closed, Matt McVay has the old locations.

[jason_contentdg]

The old location on Lem Turner has closed and is no longer there.  The other one was near Beach and St Johns Bluff, he sold it and it is still in operation.

[thelakelander]

The petition is only for residents of Springfield?  How about property owners?

[Matt M]

http://www.petitiononline.com/car_wash/petition.html

Above is a link to the petition recommending approval of the exception which will allow the opening of the already existing car wash and convenience store.  The signatures are not able to be viewed publicly, but you are required to submit name, address (for residency and/or property ownership verification), and email address (for signature verification purposes).  If you are in support of the exception it is imperative that you sign the petition.  I will print it out and give it to Silas to take to the hearing with the rest of his presentation.

http://www.petitiononline.com/car_wash/petition.html

Note:  Those of you that signed the original petition that was posted, please resign this one.  I had to create a new one as editing of petition verbiage is frowned upon once signatures are affixed. Thanks.

[untarded]

The old location on Lem Turner has closed and is no longer there.  The other one was near Beach and St Johns Bluff, he sold it and it is still in operation.

http://diamondcarwash.net/index.htm

I believe this is the one on Beach.  Can anyone confirm?   I used it a few times several years ago (I think around early '05).  Not sure who owned it at the time.  The 'convenience store' in it only sold car related merchandise such as waxes, air fresheners, etc.  Might have had sodas and snacks for customers while they waited, I can't remember.

I remember the interior being clean and inviting (not in a Three Layers kind of way but worlds better than the Shell, BP experience). 

[Matt M]

Ok, I've presented the facts to help enable the community to make an educated decision and a way to voice it.  I'm stepping out of the debate now.  I'll deliver the completed petition to Silas.

[stephendare]

Well, thanks Matt for letting people be aware of the process that a business owner goes through in the course of opening a new place. 

Also for helpfully giving the owner a list of suggestions to make his relations with the surrounding community smoother and mutually respectful.

If people wish to express support for his project, Im sure that would be a nice way to welcome a new merchant attempting to improve a blighted stretch of Main Street.  And they now have a great list of reasons to extend a little warmth in this very unfriendly economy.

[FinnegansWake]

The "Dancy Terrace Show" of 2009.
Competing petitions and fear.

I've got parking spots for the show. $20/car...$40/SmartCar (just because)...free to bikes and motorcycles.

I think a very very quiet, well designed, LEED certified, historically accurate, topless car wash would be the fix. Boobs and beefcake always bring the peeps together. yes?

[jason_contentdg]

If you are for the approval of the car wash it is imperative to show your support at the council meeting on the 12th at 1pm.

Based on the information Silas shared with us today, and what he has submitted so far, the planning department is passing on a report to council to deny the exception.  It may be possible to post the actual report soon.

We are working with Silas to show renderings of what and how the car wash will actually work.  I think it will help explain what Silas is trying to accomplish with this piece of property.  He is spending the majority of his money on site improvements (he has already paid for and installed the automated equipment), and will paint and fix up the building to a point that he can afford.

We will post some images as they are finished in the coming days.

Thanks...

[fsu813]

this would be a good topic to bring up this evening at the community meeting...