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Thanks for posting that Matt. I had also heard that bit of info, its good to see that Silas is not acting without the owners permission.
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« Reply #271 on: November 04, 2009, 05:00:01 PM » |
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Btw, the same could go for Uptown Market. If things don't work out, what stops them from changing their commercial model to something that's already allowed by the zoning, that will lead to more profitability? Why wasn't the same concern addressed with them? Why wasn't the same concern addressed with Gallery Restaurant Group? That's is an easy one, Lake... Gallery Restaurant Group is a proven commodity. They know how to launch and run a successful restaurant that has had careful planning and thought put into the target audience, the product mix, the merchandising (environment), the operations, etc. Burrito Gallery downtown and the concession they have in the stadium (forget the name) are the proof they know what they are doing, and that they will do what they say. It also doesn't hurt that two of the owners are otherwise invested as residents of this community. Not saying I'm for or against at this point. Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing? |
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« Reply #272 on: November 04, 2009, 05:02:45 PM » |
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Zoo.
What are your qualifications to judge business plans, test markets, product mix, merchandising?
Do you have any at all?
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« Reply #273 on: November 04, 2009, 05:04:43 PM » |
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Anyone know who the contractor is renovating/building the car wash? I am looking to renovate one on NAS Jax and add a touch-free, and hopefully have it LEED certified. Please email...
Or if anyone knows of someone who is experienced...
Thanks...
Phil Collins
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« Reply #274 on: November 04, 2009, 05:06:31 PM » |
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As a matter of fact I do, but as I stated before, they are NOYFB.
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« Reply #275 on: November 04, 2009, 05:09:37 PM » |
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Well I dont think you do. As a matter of fact, Im pretty sure you don't.
And if your ability to accurately judge any of those things is NOYFB (according to the urban slang dictionary, this apparently means "none of your fucking business") then I think its fair to assume that the business plans of other people are also NOYFB.
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« Reply #276 on: November 04, 2009, 05:11:32 PM » |
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Anyone know who the contractor is renovating/building the car wash? I am looking to renovate one on NAS Jax and add a touch-free, and hopefully have it LEED certified. Please email...
Or if anyone knows of someone who is experienced...
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Phil Collins
Hey Phil, I think Johnny looked into it as a potential venture not oh so long ago. He may still have some of that info for you. Best of luck, The other Phil |
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« Reply #277 on: November 04, 2009, 05:17:37 PM » |
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Zoo asked:
"Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing?"
- per Matt McVay, they are no longer in business. He knows the old locations of both though.
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« Reply #278 on: November 04, 2009, 05:22:42 PM » |
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Btw, the same could go for Uptown Market. If things don't work out, what stops them from changing their commercial model to something that's already allowed by the zoning, that will lead to more profitability? Why wasn't the same concern addressed with them? Why wasn't the same concern addressed with Gallery Restaurant Group? That's is an easy one, Lake... Gallery Restaurant Group is a proven commodity. Coca Cola has been successful for over a century but they bombed on Clear Coke. Gallery has proven that they know how to run a burrito restaurant, but Uptown Market is a different product in a different environment (I'm not against them, just using them as an example). Anyway, you can subsitute exhibit A with B,C,D and more. How about Three Layers, 9th & Main (the early years), Fusion or City kidz? The examples are interchangable but the underlying zoning realities (that are really at the heart of this discussion) remain the same. Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing? I figured this info would come from those he presented in front of, assuming that this would be a natural question to pop up if his presentation included him claiming he had other properties. Anyone have any info on this? |
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« Reply #279 on: November 04, 2009, 05:27:52 PM » |
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I just posted it above.
Both of them have closed, Matt McVay has the old locations.
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« Reply #280 on: November 04, 2009, 05:38:09 PM » |
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The old location on Lem Turner has closed and is no longer there. The other one was near Beach and St Johns Bluff, he sold it and it is still in operation.
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« Reply #281 on: November 04, 2009, 05:41:14 PM » |
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The petition is only for residents of Springfield? How about property owners?
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« Reply #282 on: November 04, 2009, 06:18:27 PM » |
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The old location on Lem Turner has closed and is no longer there. The other one was near Beach and St Johns Bluff, he sold it and it is still in operation.
http://diamondcarwash.net/index.htmI believe this is the one on Beach. Can anyone confirm? I used it a few times several years ago (I think around early '05). Not sure who owned it at the time. The 'convenience store' in it only sold car related merchandise such as waxes, air fresheners, etc. Might have had sodas and snacks for customers while they waited, I can't remember. I remember the interior being clean and inviting (not in a Three Layers kind of way but worlds better than the Shell, BP experience). |
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« Reply #283 on: November 04, 2009, 07:47:10 PM » |
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Well, thanks Matt for letting people be aware of the process that a business owner goes through in the course of opening a new place.
Also for helpfully giving the owner a list of suggestions to make his relations with the surrounding community smoother and mutually respectful.
If people wish to express support for his project, Im sure that would be a nice way to welcome a new merchant attempting to improve a blighted stretch of Main Street. And they now have a great list of reasons to extend a little warmth in this very unfriendly economy.
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« Reply #284 on: November 04, 2009, 08:19:58 PM » |
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The "Dancy Terrace Show" of 2009.
Competing petitions and fear.
I've got parking spots for the show. $20/car...$40/SmartCar (just because)...free to bikes and motorcycles.
I think a very very quiet, well designed, LEED certified, historically accurate, topless car wash would be the fix. Boobs and beefcake always bring the peeps together. yes?
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