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« on: September 07, 2009, 06:07:13 AM »

Elements of Urbanism: Detroit



While Detroit is nationally recognized as America's poster child for blight and economic decline, Metro Jacksonville takes a look at one aspect the city has successfully brought back to life:  Downtown Detroit.

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2009, 09:51:16 AM »

Music scene is supposed to be awesome there. I have friends that travel a 6 hour drive fairly regularly to catch shows there. Personally, I don't have much love for Detroit after spending a night freezing on the airport floor after being snowed in. NEVER fly there in the winter! lol.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2009, 10:33:59 AM »

Poor Detroit.  Has seen many many hard times in the last 40 years or so. Over 900,000 people departing since the 1950's, that's a huge chunk of meat leaving the butcher. Add to that the decline of the auto industry, which was the heart and heartbeat of detroit's success, and you've got a city that is only a shell of its former self, and continues to lose population.  But it appears that Detroit of late is keeping its head up high and taking numerous measures to bounce back.  Wouldn't want to live there, too cold in the winter, and summer lasts only about 3 months.  Overall, wish the best for Detroit.  Have some family living there and for the life of me will never know why they left North Florida for Detroit (early 70's, at that time the auto industry was still booming).

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2009, 11:09:49 AM »

Nice capture of someone with a rebel flag at Comerica Park.

Just an observation.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2009, 12:19:21 PM »







Did you make it past this station Lake? This is the old Michigan Central Station in Detroit, but it's out of the urban core. Buffalo New York has a similar station situation. There was a plan to convert this into a Grand Terminal for a fantasy monorail idea, that makes our Skyway look like the Union Pacific.

Sad to see them go, as both city's have plans to wreck them.


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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2009, 12:24:32 PM »

Yes, I've been past there several times over the last decade.  You are correct, they are trying to tear it down.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 12:45:07 PM »

Makes our Skyway look like the Union Pacific?  So it was a crappy idea?
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 12:53:15 PM »

Well, crappy leadership is more like it. Check out how their city council works:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/TxP9HgmewlY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/TxP9HgmewlY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/YLQ02-pbRB0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/YLQ02-pbRB0</a>
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 01:13:17 PM »

The Detroit News has the following interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGxiGdwngNY

Its an interview with Monica Conyer's in which the reporter asks her 'If you were a nut, what kind of nut would you be?'
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 01:22:33 PM »

Wow I'm speechless.  That 8th grader has more merit to be on the city council than that Monica Conyer lady.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2009, 01:26:13 PM »

Lake, loved this photo thread btw.

When I was a kid, I lived in Detroit from 72 -76, off of 8mile and Southfield Highway.

I was there when the Renaissance Center was opened to the public, and have great memories of the downtown.

We spent a lot of time in Windsor as a kid, like many detroiters.

The politics have always been nutty up there, dating back to Mayor Young and the gang takeover of Cobo Hall (that was a real nailbiter, btw)   

My mother was a pretty tireless volunteer for the poor back then and did a lot of work in the inner city, especially for a program called Meals on Wheels for the elderly, and the homes that were still in existence in innercity detroit in the 70s were nothing short of jawdropping.  Alot of that was lost.  Did you get to go through the historic districts while you were there?

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2009, 01:28:28 PM »

Yes, I get around when I'm up there.  However, for this thread, I only focused on DT.  What historic district and neighborhoods are you interested in seeing?  I have a pretty large photo archive from trips over the years, so I may have them.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009, 09:21:47 PM »

A lot of the older homes and buildings are being torn down as I understand because they're havens for illegal activity. I don't know how many of the abandoned homes are in historic neighborhoods, but I think that's a loss I'd be willing to take if it helped with reducing crime. It is shame, but who is going to come invest and live in them when the rust belt is bleeding people and jobs?
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 04:28:20 AM »

I love this site, don't get me wrong - but i feel like some topics are very repetitive.  Didn’t the Detroit area get covered at least once before?  Also, most times I log in I feel like it is all about rail service.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 06:29:42 AM »

Sometimes you have to drive the point home, so some topics are revisited at time when the opportunity presents itself.  Rail is a great example of this because we feel its one of the most important issues facing the future of our community.  Detroit has been covered in the past.  However, the subjects have been different, well spaced out and deal with several issues we face locally.

November 2006 - Rust Belt Special II: Learning from Downtown Detroit
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2006-nov-rust-belt-special-ii-learning-from-downtown-detroit

September 2007 - Elements of Urbanism: Detroit International Riverfront
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2007-sep-elements-of-urbanism-detroit-international-riverfront

February 2008 - The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-feb-the-detroit-people-mover-the-skyways-sister-system

March 2008 - Rail Without the FTA: Detroit
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-mar-rail-without-the-fta-detroit
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