Hog Hunting, Bar B Q and the City of Callahan.

[civil42806]

Delightfully snarky, Jon Stewart would be proud, however did you in fact do the following?

"posted one of our copyrighted articles and one of our copyrighted photographs in the comments section."

If so they have the right to complain

[macbeth25]

I'm not qute sure how this works since I'm a "newbie," but my name appears above my comment.  In any event, the person making the comment beginning "hmm. Thats weird." needs to do some homework.  The cited link clearly refers to "online" newspapers.  Callahan's WESTSIDE JOURNAL is NOT an online newspaper   Your statement that "Its shockingly not up to par," may not be entirely correct.  (FYI, the word "its" denotes possession.  The correct word here is "It's" representing "It is.")  With both items in mind, do a bit more research before putting your foot in your mouth unless you really like the taste.  It's also interesting that the North Florida News Daily, an online paper, appears on the list while metro.jacksonville does not.  Is it possible that metro.jacksonville is NOT considered a newspaper, at least not an online newspaper?  www.Jacksonville.com/community/, a very well known online newsletter, is also not listed on the cited list.

[stephendare]

Macbeth25

Welcome to the site and thanks for the comments!

In reading your post I realize I rushed while typing out my comments.  The "It" being referred to as shockingly not up to par, would be the The List of Online publications itself.

I realized after the fact that the Westside Journal does not have a website, but the paper which employs the editor of the Nassau County Record does.

Amanda, or Mandy as I like to think of her, seemed to take umbrage at the fact that I referred to the Westside Journal as 'the newspaper', and one can tell from her dismissive attack on the 'other' publication that she obviously has some faint contempt for the publication.

This is a feeling which I do not share, as I mentioned in my response--I loved the articles and especially the wonderful column called Hilliard Doin's.

She seemed to think it a gross oversight on my part that I was unaware of the Nassau County Record at the time I penned the article, which I think was a bit of an exploded expectation.

In mentioning the list of online journals, I meant to convey that as a casual visitor, there wasnt much likelihood that I would simply intuit that there was another paper beside the excellent Westside Journal, since the only paper folks were reading was the Journal and I saw no other publications while in Callahan.  I meant to convey that by pointing out that the Online Journal listing is also apparently unaware of their existence, and if even the University listing doesn't mention them, how can I, a mere mortal be expected to do more?

I also attempted to soften the blow that their publications wasnt listed by pointing out that neither is metrojacksonville.  The point being merely one of oversight, not intention.

But I agree with you, I think you rightly sense the dismissive tone of the editor of the Record.  On checking with some of the locals, apparently the Westside Journal is kicking their long established butts.

[macbeth25]

Thanks for your response.  To close the subject, I apologize that I didn't express myself correctly.  I was not discussing her actions but yours.  I believe your comments were inappropriate, at best.  Metrojacksonville was incorrect in using a copyrighted article without permission in the first place.  I believe at least one other respondent pointed that out.  I would like to just leave this discussion at that.  Others are welcome to comment.  The jury's still out on whether or not I will continue with metrojacksonville.  On another tack, do you think I should post some photos from the 2009 Callahan Blueberry Festival?  You obviously have been on this site far longer than I and I believe you have more of a feel for what readers might want. I really don't want to post them unless there is some interest.

[stephendare]

Please, please post some photos macbeth.

On the subject of the posted comments, however, I would like to comment.

Fair Use does allow the posting or use of copywritten material for the purposes of review or commentary but it mostly guarantees that no one other than the holder of the copyright profits financially from the use of the material.

As a writer myself I am also very sensitive to the issue.

An appropriate link was sent from our site back to the newspaper itself, so the work was hardly unattributed.

The irony of course, is that in an online context, a link such as the one we provided is a courtesy and a benefit to the person or site who is linked to, rather than from.

Google ratings are partially based on the number of external links to a site, the more that there are, the higher the site moves up on their ranking.

For example if you search "Callahan Blueberry Festival"  you will find the following link:  http://www.google.com/search?q=callahan+blueberry+festival&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Notice that the Nassau County Record is not listed until the third page of returns...which most people probably arent going to click through to.

When another publication such as this one posts a link, the ranking of the paper automatically goes up.  If people post on the link then that link will show up even higher on the list, and probably have made it at least to the first page of the search returns.

As you can imagine, this leads to a certain lax viewpoint on the subject of links online.

Any publication directly benefits from being linked to.  There is no benefit in linking from.

Does that make sense?

The benefit of the link was really to the Record, rather than to our site, and it was linked merely as a thoughtful way to expose other readers and people to the external site.

I did however speak to Dawn today, from the Westside Journal, and I have to tell you that I had a very contrasting experience with the publisher of Callahan's 'other' publisher.

I think the rancor on Mandy's part comes from the competition more than anything.

And I take a certain amount of personal umbrage at her suggestion that Loreena Franklin is in any way 'Laughable'.

Please feel welcome to contribute to our site at will.

We actually sit down to dinner with members of the public every Tuesday Night so that people can come and meet our board and discuss the issues of the day.

You would be quite welcome, and it would be a pleasure to meet you.

[BridgeTroll]

We are very interested in photos of the Blueberry Festival.  Please post them.  The response to Stephens article has been pretty good.  He opened the eyes of many of us who did not know much about our neighbors.  I do not understand the objections to the use of your article... but that is probably just me.

[macbeth25]

How do you upload photos?

[Jason]

Upload them to a site such as "Photobucket.com".  You'll have to create an account to do so but its is free.  Once uploaded, copy and pasts the direct link (found at the base of the photo), into your response using the "insert photo" option.  the link should go between the "[img][img]" notations.

If you have any more problems just send myself or one of the other mods a PM and we can give you a hand.

[macbeth25]

Old and Young:  Donnie Marcum (L) at 73 was the oldest racer at the Callahan Speedway on July 4th while Bill Russell (R) is 72.  Nathaniel Seidel (L) has just turned 8 while Jacob Horton (R) was the youngest driver at 6.  David Hicken, wearing red, and James Wofford are the owners.  Donnie has been racing for about 5 years while Bill has been driving GoKarts for about 6.  Check out the Speedway website at http://www.callahanspeedway.com/ for schedules and other information.

[macbeth25]

There were 17 breeds of poultry represented at the festival including this Dark Brahma whose males can get to 14 pounds.  Wanda also owns Five Star Farms which also has Registered Suffolk Sheep and Rabbits (Holland Lops, Netherland Dwarfs, Mini-Rex).

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[Jason]

MacBeth, my oldest son (10) just started racing go karts down at Barberville.  I'm actually thinking about joining him! 

[macbeth25]

That sounds neat.  I apologize but I have no idea where Barberville might be.  One of the owners of the Callahan Speedway mentioned that his son and he were actually competing -- though not in Callahan.  Have you had a chance to visit our Speedway?  I think I included the website on one of the photos.  It's brand new and it's located near US 1 and Musselwhite just north of Callahan on the road to Hilliard.  If you're heading towards Hilliard on US 1, it'll be on the right side where the Fairgrounds are.  The website has their schedule, prices and etc. 

[Jason]

My sister lives in Hilliard (the notorious Patterson family) and I have heard of the new track but haven't seen it yet.  I will be driving through this Friday though so I'll make a point to drop in a take a look.

Barberville is north of Deland in Volusia county.

[macbeth25]

They normally practice on Thursdays, I think, and race on Saturday or Sunday.  It's been raining but the area where they race doesn't get too bad.  My road, Eula B, just off Musselwhite, is ridiculous and my yard gets even worse.  Hope you enjoy my photos. 

[stephendare]

Macbeth.

Thanks so much for the awesome photos!

A picture is truly worth a thousand words, and your selection gives a great view of the charming area!

We look forward to seeing a lot more from you.  Thanks for joining up with the site!

Stephen.