Mayport Cruise Ship Terminal Proposal

[blizz01]

Seems like the same scenario at the Dames Point (but on a smaller scale).

[Jason]

Its amazing that they approached the bridge at full speed in order to keep the ship lower in the water.  Man... the slightest miscalculation of less than a meter and WACK!!!!

[Captain Zissou]

That was probably the most tense moment in many of their lives.  That would have been an Expensive miscalculation.  Gotta love those engineers.

[Dog Walker]

What's also incredible is that the bottom was more than sixty-five feet under the ship's bottom and the flipping thing is so HUGE that there was still bottom suction action.  Just boggles the mind!

[Jason]

^ That's what she said!? 

[blizz01]

Carnival unveils Fascination Revamp

Carnival Cruise Lines unveiled its multimillion-dollar renovation of its more than 2,000-passenger cruise ship Fascination, which now features 98 balcony staterooms and a water park.

The ship revamp follows a record year in business for the cruise line. Nearly 185,500 passengers sailed on the Fascination out of Jacksonville in fiscal 2009, which ended Sept. 30. The number of passengers has grown by 25 percent since Carnival began sailing out of Jacksonville in 2005.

The Jacksonville Port Authority will need to build a new cruise terminal in the coming years if it wants to keep the growing industry. A new terminal is needed because the site of the present terminal at Dames Point will be the home of the Hanjin Shipping Company Ltd.’s new container terminal in 2013.

The chairman of the authority board, David Kulik, said the authority will continue to look at new cruise terminal sites, and it will not have to make a decision until the engineering contract for the Hanjin terminal is awarded.

The authority is waiting for a letter of agreement between the South Korean shipping company and the longshoremen’s union before it chooses the terminal design firm, Kulik said.

The authority’s board voted unanimously in March 2009 to pull back on its plans to build the $60 million cruise terminal to focus on its cargo business and see how the cruise industry handles the recession.

Some Mayport residents said if the cruise terminal was built at Mayport, it would hurt the area’s character and shrimping industry. Supporters of the cruise terminal countered that it would do the opposite by bringing more money and jobs into the area.

The Carnival Fascination’s sailing schedule consists of a four-day cruise to Freeport and Nassau, the Bahamas; and a five-day trip to the private Bahamian island of Half Moon Cay and Nassau.

The revamped Fascination includes an adult-only retreat area and a resort-style main pool area.

http://jacksonville.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2010/02/01/daily4.html

[Ocklawaha]

Since jaxport already owns the land perhaps the question Mayport should answer is...

Do you want a nice cruise ship with tourists and shops and restaraunts or tankers and container ships?

You guys talk it out amongst yourselves and get back to us...

The Port Authority is offering the Mayport Community what amounts to a sketch pad, and a blank check. If the Mayport NIMBY'S still don't get it, they don't deserve an alternate Tanker, or Container Terminal! Give them a huge bulk cargo facility and off-load the low grade coal and carbon black, at Mayport so it doesn't soil Talleyrand's nice neighborhoods.

OCKLAWAHA

[Ocklawaha]

Man..... that ship is flipping HUGE!!!

The largest cruise ship in the world Oasis of the Seas cruised under the Storebealt bridge Denmark 15 minutes past midnight 31 of November 2009. The ship is 72 meters high and the bridge is 65 meter. But with very high speed and funnels lowed down they had a margin of 1 meter and 25 cm up to the bridge. The ship had the highest speed it can have so it plowed itself down in the sea so it could go under. it will not stop in Europe but go directly to Florida.

Just think of what that puppy will look like parked at Port Everglades.

Couldn't resist this Jason... Ships are never parked, they are moored (dockside) or anchored (swinging free in a basin as an example).    LOL! 

BTW, are you still doing models? Lakelander and I have a fairly simple (?) project for you.

OCKLAWAHA

[north miami]

I finally figured out how to deal with the Mayport episode..........

If I were living in Mayport and not happy with the Terminal proposal I would simply move away.
Florida has a long history of such forced elective displacements.

[aaapolito]

I am for historic preservation and maintenance of community character, but I also support viability and sound economical decisions.  A cruise terminal that can handle large ships in Mayport makes sense.  In addition, it allows Jacksonville to achieve to successes: 1. A healthy cruise port capable of future growth; and 2. Hanjin cargo port.

[Ocklawaha]

WHY MAYPORT?

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OCKLAWAHA

[buckethead]

I don't get the appeal of cruise ships.

Gwen: "You dont like crowds?"
Bertram Pincus: "Its no so much the crowd, as the individuals within
  the crowd."

[mtraininjax]

1. A healthy cruise port capable of future growth; and 2. Hanjin cargo port.

Certainly the latter, not the former. Who is the most powerful figure in NE Florida? Why its Rick Ferrin head of the Port Authority, and he knows it. He will be in charge of 50-100,000 jobs as the economy improves. We don't really need a cruise ship or cruise terminal. I'd gladly trade south florida for their containers, and they can have the cruise ship business. I want the containers, because they foster more money for our economy than tourists.

We'll never be able to put the ships in the ST. Johns that Miami can, and now with the new Nuke carrier coming, we really don't need cruise ships.

[CS Foltz]

mtraininjax.........I agree! I would much rather have container cargo than cruise ships anyday! Who ever runs the cruise ship usually makes money, facility where it is docked and the maintenance of the facility......other than that, ain't squat for an area other than token payments! Rood/Vescor can kiss off as far as I am concerned!

[tufsu1]

mtraininjax.........I agree! I would much rather have container cargo than cruise ships anyday! Who ever runs the cruise ship usually makes money, facility where it is docked and the maintenance of the facility......other than that, ain't squat for an area other than token payments!

tell that to the Channelside people in Tampa!