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I-10east

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2017, 07:30:57 AM »
It might surprise you to learn that George Orwell was a socialist.

Yeah I knew. Propaganda has no limit to political affiliation.

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2017, 07:44:10 AM »
It might surprise you to learn that George Orwell was a socialist.

Yeah I knew. Propaganda has no limit to political affiliation.

I just find it funny because the sorts of things that Orwell critiqued are highly illiberal.
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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2017, 08:32:32 AM »
ABC is discontinuing the cash cow Last Man Standing all because of conservative Tim Allen. Yet flooding ESPN with liberal propaganda, turning it from in the black to the red was the way to go! Thanks Disney! Disney is the devil itself.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/16317/despite-high-ratings-abc-cancels-trump-friendly-john-nolte?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand

HAHAHAHAHAHA, you actually recommended an article where the author then recommends you read Ben mother fucking Shapiro-- a true genius thinker if ever there was one, at least when he isnt obsessing over bathroom predators. 
GTFO with this crap.  THIS is your example of corporate fascism?!? Canecelling a TV show, and not, say, FIFA literally enslaving people to build stadiums, Coke destorying entire cities with pollution to make sugar water for fatties, Amazon and other places slowly doing away with human workers all together, or the way all companies are slowly creeping on your free speech rights?? You're upset over Tim Allen losing a shitty TV show? God i wish I lived in a bubble where the things that dont matter do matter and the important things dont matter at all.

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2017, 09:44:46 AM »
ABC is discontinuing the cash cow Last Man Standing all because of conservative Tim Allen. Yet flooding ESPN with liberal propaganda, turning it from in the black to the red was the way to go! Thanks Disney! Disney is the devil itself.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/16317/despite-high-ratings-abc-cancels-trump-friendly-john-nolte?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand

HAHAHAHAHAHA, you actually recommended an article where the author then recommends you read Ben mother fucking Shapiro-- a true genius thinker if ever there was one, at least when he isnt obsessing over bathroom predators. 
GTFO with this crap.  THIS is your example of corporate fascism?!? Canecelling a TV show, and not, say, FIFA literally enslaving people to build stadiums, Coke destorying entire cities with pollution to make sugar water for fatties, Amazon and other places slowly doing away with human workers all together, or the way all companies are slowly creeping on your free speech rights?? You're upset over Tim Allen losing a shitty TV show? God i wish I lived in a bubble where the things that dont matter do matter and the important things dont matter at all.

It's more a matter that conservatives and/or folks in "flyover America" see this as another example of a Hollywood company cancelling something that appeals to them based on bias rather than business. There probably are business reasons, but given that this was apparently a fairly successful show, it's not hard to see bias affecting the decision not to renew it. If it were an isolated incident the story probably wouldn't be making the rounds, but it's not. Taken as a whole, these types of things hurt the left more than anything, as it sends the message that one of the most left-leaning industries disdains conservatives and middle America.

http://www.inquisitr.com/4213074/why-was-last-man-standing-canceled-conservatives-accuse-abc-of-pulling-show-in-defiance-of-donald-trump/
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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2017, 09:59:11 AM »
It might surprise you to learn that George Orwell was a socialist.

Yeah I knew. Propaganda has no limit to political affiliation.

I just find it funny because the sorts of things that Orwell critiqued are highly illiberal.

What Orwell is best known for critiquing is totalitarianism and authoritarianism. As he made clear, the left is equally capable of those things as the right (and in fact, has been more successful at creating totalitarian states than the right).

Of course, the situation of a Tim Allen sitcom getting cancelled by a TV network isn't actually an example of  "Orwellianism".
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #65 on: May 12, 2017, 10:11:21 AM »
It might surprise you to learn that George Orwell was a socialist.

Yeah I knew. Propaganda has no limit to political affiliation.

I just find it funny because the sorts of things that Orwell critiqued are highly illiberal.

What Orwell is best known for critiquing is totalitarianism and authoritarianism. As he made clear, the left is equally capable of those things as the right (and in fact, has been more successful at creating totalitarian states than the right).

Of course, the situation of a Tim Allen sitcom getting cancelled by a TV network isn't actually an example of  "Orwellianism".

No, of course it isn't. And liberalism and authoritarianism, thought crime, etc aren't compatible.

Orwell was very critical of Soviet communism, which makes sense, as it was essentially the largest and most successful left wing movement of his day. He was a democrat and a socialist.
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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #66 on: May 13, 2017, 06:17:26 PM »
I may have mentioned in this thread that I enjoy Jemele (she grew up in Detroit) and Michael (he grew up in New Orleans) on ESPN. I liked the midday His & Hers show they had, and I like the new show (rarely watched 6 p.m. before, rarely watch now) but . . . objectively speaking, that 6 p.m. flagship slot is wrong for them.

RATINGS FOR ‘SC:6′ WITH JEMELE HILL AND MICHAEL SMITH ARE TUMBLING
http://mashup.weei.com/sports/2017/05/12/sc-6-ratings-jemele-hill-michael-smith

And this writer thinks ESPN allowed Fox Sports to spook them into an overreaction:

https://sportstvratings.com/on-sc6-and-giving-jamie-horowitz-due-credit/8058/

Probably true.

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #67 on: May 13, 2017, 06:42:32 PM »
Also, this may have been mentioned but I was outraged by ESPN pimping for Michael Sam the year he entered the draft. I mean, there was a serious question whether the man was a tweener and worthy of being drafted at all but there they were with a camera at his party. They seemingly were trying to guilt an NFL team into drafting him and eventually succeeded wihen the homestate team made him their last selection.

On and on and on they droned about who was going to pick Michael Sam. For three damn days. The kicker for me? Plastering his damn boyfriend all over my television screen with an obviously staged kiss when the moment finally came.

They were unquestionably advocates for that cause and they lost me right there. I have more than a few proud gay friends but the staging engaged in by ESPN, the moral superiority preening, was just too damn much.

Of course, Oprah's production company (I believe) had signed him up for some reality TV shiznit -- proving they, and he, didn't understand the way the NFL works. He had to drop that initiative. He was then cut by the Rams before the season began, the Cowboys gave him a lifeline but he couldn't cut it, and he finally tried the CFL but he didn't really want to do that.

In the end, Michael Sam wanted to be a damn TV star. That's what he REALLY wanted to be.

But ESPN had to embarrassingly club us over the head with that mess. Everybody knows there are multiple gay players in the NFL and *any* pro sports league. Wherever there is a collection of men, there will be gay men there in "X" percentages. But there are rather obvious reasons why gay athletes are hesitant to be advocates, number one is it takes away from the concept of team. It takes away from a singular focus on team.

But like Michael Sam, ESPN was more interested in being -- dunt duh da dunhhhhhh -- social justice warrior TV hero.

To hell with that crap.

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2017, 12:42:55 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHA, you actually recommended an article where the author then recommends you read Ben mother fucking Shapiro-- a true genius thinker if ever there was one, at least when he isnt obsessing over bathroom predators. 
GTFO with this crap.  THIS is your example of corporate fascism?!? Canecelling a TV show, and not, say, FIFA literally enslaving people to build stadiums, Coke destorying entire cities with pollution to make sugar water for fatties, Amazon and other places slowly doing away with human workers all together, or the way all companies are slowly creeping on your free speech rights?? You're upset over Tim Allen losing a shitty TV show? God i wish I lived in a bubble where the things that dont matter do matter and the important things dont matter at all.

Thank God that I now often take mini hiatuses from the MJ madness...So the outlet that is reporting (whether conservative liberal or whatever) overshadows the message? The lame stream media sure as hell not gonna report the liberal propaganda taking over everything...It's not like I vouch 100 percent what Shapiro say, the message is the main thing here...
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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2017, 10:37:58 AM »
I just saw where the 6pm SportsCenter is now sponsored by MSNBC. 
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I-10east

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #70 on: May 16, 2017, 07:45:31 PM »
^^^That says it all. They might as well have MoveOn.org  as a sponsor as well.

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #71 on: May 16, 2017, 08:00:12 PM »
I didn't read through all the comments but ESPN has basically turned into a reality TV show as every network feels they have to have one. Very little on TV worth watching these days since the past 20 years.

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Re: The ESPN Bloodbath
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2017, 04:27:59 PM »
Only read the last page of posts, but I feel like I'm in the T-U or news4jax comments section.