well unless stephendare is willing to concede that rape, beastiality, incest, necrophilia, sadism and any other sexual proclivity not pertaining to our biological mandate for procreation are legitimate and normal, then I stand validated in using the word perversion to describe homosexuality.
Btw, I'm very gay friendly but I'm not deluded enough to regard it as something other than what it is.
btw. you are polite, not gay friendly.
OK, lets parse this. Are the following legitimately 'abnormal'.
Rape, bestiality, incest, necrophilia, sadism. Those are the ones you named.
Rape. It is criminal, it is horrible, it is often violent and fatal, and an act of force, but it is certainly not uncommon
in the literal sense as it happens with great frequency and has happened since we first started recording stories. For some really gruesome and disgusting stories about rape and dismemberment, you can check out one of the oldest books still in circulation, the Bible. Let me commend you to one of the most infamous of them starting in the book of Judges 19:22
It is a crime of violence acted out sexually against a (by definition) unwilling partner. (three of your instances are. Dead people can't give consent, and most people would agree that inter species sex is rarely consensual. In the case of Dolphin Human sex its usually an act of rape that is fatal for the human female. Hippos who are raped by rogue elephants also seem to share a general dim view of the practice)
Bestiality truly is abnormal. It is not reported in every society and culture throughout history, it is exceedingly rare and notoriously difficult to pull of without losing friends or exposing oneself to some rather savage infections. Its rarity and inexplicability, I think, qualifies it as abnormal.
Incest is more common, and quite frowned upon outside of Kentucky and apparently Alabama, but it is more of a culturally defined thing. If you recall, Father Abraham and Sarah, were brother and sister when they fled Ur of the Chaldeas together. We consider sexual relations to be incestuous in any familial connection closer than second cousins. That definition was arrived at rather late in our history, based on older notions of the germplasm. So what we consider incest today would have been a perfectly acceptable match at the founding of the Republic. Illegal? yes. Unadvisable over generations in families with transmissible genetic disorders? definitely. are there blurred lines about the definition of it, and therefore the scope of the behavior itself, Also definitely.
Here are the pertinent scriptures: Start in Genesis 20:11
11Abraham said, "Because I thought, surely there is no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife. 12"Besides, she actually is my sister, the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife;
Necrophilia is even rarer than bestiality, and almost certainly more fraught with both bacteriological and social downsides. It also is not recorded with any frequency in all cultures and eras, and requires a fairly rugged constitution in order to even contemplate it. True, there are fewer chances that the relationship might go badly, but that doesnt seem to have made it any more attractive or more widespread than a couple of creeps per century getting busted for it. Almost all the modern cases are accompanied with extreme emotional disturbance, so there is some evidence that the two might be linked. Definitely qualifies as abnormal as well as criminal and extremely poor form.
Sadism. Have you checked out the number one bestselling book and film '50 Shades of Grey'? Kind of huge with women of a certain age, if the very long lines at the local movie theatres are any indication. So, abnormal? Hard to peg Grandma Kate and Aunt Jane as the vanguard of the abnormal set.
I think most people realize that same sex attractions are generally normal and positive. Or at least as normal and positive as heterosexual attractions.
However, I do think that hiring a bunch of prostitutes to pee all over each other in a bed that has been previously slept in by your political rival smacks of a deep seated abnormality.
Like was it the golden shower show or the fact that it was on a bed that Obama slept in that made the act appealing?