Author Topic: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development  (Read 44839 times)

jaxjaguar

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Didn't Khan/Lamping say they would front the money to get this started and allow the city to pay them back?

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To be honest, I can't blame the State if nothing materializes within the next year.  It's not like $50 million will pop out of thin air to tear down a structurally sound structure just because Curry and Khan want so.  If this is Jax's top priority, we ought to treat it like one.

Some other communities have advanced projects by taking the money already allocated to other area projects. We could look at killing or delaying another Jax area road project, thus freeing up its allocated money to go towards the Hart Bridge priority.

Ennis, isn't the first step in treating it as *the* top priority officially designating it as such?

Why are we being dense about this Hart Bridge project?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-19/trump-budget-said-to-include-200-billion-for-infrastructure

Do you honestly think Shad Khan isn't on top of this? Hasn't had discussions with the Mayor about this? The Governor? Hell, the freaking President !?!

Wake the hell up, please.

It's actually okay, you know, to contemplate this happening. Isn't that part of what happens on a site interested in the development of the urban core? Can't the ideas the President is obviously espousing be objectively considered from the vantage point of how they could seriously help Jacksonville? Given that, you know, they already have!?!

It's precisely because we have a billionaire NFL owner interested in the development of our downtown, especially a sports and entertainment district that he has played a major part in revitalizng, that the President's Public-Private initiative is so intriguing.

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There is not need to keep delaying the process. Let Shad  develop the whole area. He has the money and a personal interest is seeing it succeed. Anyone else is just going to take what ever money they can get out of the state and city and then run. Burkman Plaza II is a perfect example.

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My information on the phasing situation came from Councilwoman Boyer, so take it for what it's worth.  I personally believe she's as credible as anyone in Jax.  Also, Rattlergator, you must love bathing in kool aid.  Nothing Trump does is going to result in $50 million to tear down the Hart Bridge ramp overnight.  Be careful, too much sugar leads to diabetes.
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Do you honestly think Shad Khan isn't on top of this? Hasn't had discussions with the Mayor about this? The Governor? Hell, the freaking President !?!

Wake the hell up, please.


RG, do you have any evidence that a) Shahid Khan met with Donald Trump and b) he discussed this project when he did? Because if you don't, you're in no position to tell other people to "wake the hell up". You're speculating as much as anyone else - more, actually.

I know you love The Donald and Shahid Khan, but creating a conspiracy out of whole cloth is a bit over the top.
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Is there a phased way to do this so we don't have to get $50 million in one single session for FDOT? Like, could the rebuild of the ramp onto the Bridge and the demolition up to Intuition there be Phase 1 and the entrance ramp to the remainder the previous expressway that they desire to turn into a park be Phase 2?

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What is the status of the mobility fee in all of this?

Tacachale

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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #308 on: June 08, 2017, 12:34:26 PM »
Could Rattler Gator be onto something ;)

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Lenny Curry heads to D.C., reportedly will meet with Donald Trump

A.G. GANCARSKI
20 hours ago

As President Donald Trump flew out of Washington D.C. Wednesday morning, Jacksonville Mayor Lenny Curry prepared to fly in.

Curry has time blocked out Wednesday afternoon for meetings. And on Thursday, Tweeted Alex Leary, an “infrastructure ‘listening session'” with Pres. Trump.

The Mayor’s City Hall communications team offered scant detail when asked earlier Thursday about Curry’s trip.

“The mayor will be participating in meetings on the hill and with the administration to discuss Jacksonville needs,” wrote spokeswoman Marsha Oliver in an email.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/239602-lenny-curry-heads-d-c-white-house-hill-meetings
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RattlerGator

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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #309 on: June 08, 2017, 01:41:26 PM »
Adam has a weird understanding of conspiracies, unfortunately.

In my very biased opinion you'd have to be either an idiot or a political partisan to not understand the rather obvious prudence involved in informal discussions among Republicans on this infrastructure score.

Prudence, not conspiracies.

And last I checked, Shad is a Republican -- right? Lenny, too, correct? And my goodness, Susie Wiles is a Jacksonville chick, correct? All she did was run Trump's Florida campaign. You honestly think she's talked to no one about The Shipyards project and our infrastructure needs?

Political partisanship has blinded more than a few to Donald Trump. A.O.K. by me because neither it nor James Comey is likely to stop this train. Certain elements of the MetroJacksonville crowd, similar to their weird pot-shots at the Daily's Place Amphitheater project, can get on board and embrace the possibilities or . . . keep waxing eloquently about the wonders of, oh, Greenville CackyLacky for instance. Makes me no nevermind, as us folks used to say back in the day.

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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #310 on: June 08, 2017, 08:48:23 PM »
Could Rattler Gator be onto something ;)

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Lenny Curry heads to D.C., reportedly will meet with Donald Trump

A.G. GANCARSKI
20 hours ago

As President Donald Trump flew out of Washington D.C. Wednesday morning, Jacksonville Mayor Lenny Curry prepared to fly in.

Curry has time blocked out Wednesday afternoon for meetings. And on Thursday, Tweeted Alex Leary, an “infrastructure ‘listening session'” with Pres. Trump.

The Mayor’s City Hall communications team offered scant detail when asked earlier Thursday about Curry’s trip.

“The mayor will be participating in meetings on the hill and with the administration to discuss Jacksonville needs,” wrote spokeswoman Marsha Oliver in an email.

http://floridapolitics.com/archives/239602-lenny-curry-heads-d-c-white-house-hill-meetings

Picture on his twitter of him meeting with Elaine Chao, Secretary of Transportation.   Hmmmm

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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #311 on: June 09, 2017, 10:30:36 PM »
and Marty Fiorentino was in DC for several months helping Secretary Chao get set up.

That said, as  MSNBC's Brian Williams asked Chuck Todd yesterday, "How is President Trump's Infrastructure Week going?" :)

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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #312 on: June 10, 2017, 03:06:53 AM »
Well, that's the Mayor. And it just happened or is happening.

But saying that Shahid Khan would've been discussing this stuff with the Trump administration (or Trump himself, actually) without evidence to support it is just rank speculation.

I get it: RG likes the Jaguars (and LOVES Khan) and RG likes Donald Trump. So OF COURSE they would be in cahoots. It just makes sense!

That's practically magical* thinking.


*not intended as a reference to the lame 90s Sandra Bullock movie, Practical Magic.
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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #313 on: June 15, 2017, 11:40:53 AM »
So, Adam, your preference is to not speculate until some media outlet has speculated on the subject? Or some public relations person has planted the story?



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Re: City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development
« Reply #314 on: September 01, 2017, 10:18:40 AM »
Can anyone with a JBJ subscription summarize:

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2017/09/01/as-redevelopment-efforts-for-met-park-shipyards.html

Is there new evidence that Met Park might need major remediation as well?
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