Riot In Riverside! July 4th riot brings mayhem.

[downtownparks]

Violence does suck. However, owning a firearm doesn't mean you are contributing to the violence. It means you are taking a stand, and refusing to let someone else break your peace without paying a price.

Any bets what percentage of these "33's" were done with legal registered fire arms, by individuals who are trained in the use and storage of them?

[RiversideGator]

Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future.  Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm. 

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though. 

I am as liberal as anyone on this site, yet I feel that a segment of the population is forcing me to become conservative on so many issues.

Welcome aboard.  It has been said that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. 

[stephendare]

Lets keep on subject please.  Theres no point in turning a news story into a discussion about politics.

[Driven1]

Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future.  Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm. 

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though. 

I am as liberal as anyone on this site, yet I feel that a segment of the population is forcing me to become conservative on so many issues.

Welcome aboard.  It has been said that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. 

I don't think it is "conservative" by any means to exercise one's 2nd Amendment right (recently affirmed by SCOTUS - sad it came to that).  i don't think exercising this right actually should have any political ideology associated with it.

anyone see Morgan Spurlock's most recent "30 Days"  had a 2nd Amendment hater go and live with these gun-lovers.  i was completely surprised...at the end of 30 days, she actually DID kind of convert herself and had to admit that while she would still fight for gun restriction laws, she felt she now had an obligation to make sure the laws she was fighting for would not restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

[stephendare]

Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future.  Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm. 

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though. 

I am as liberal as anyone on this site, yet I feel that a segment of the population is forcing me to become conservative on so many issues.

Welcome aboard.  It has been said that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. 

I don't think it is "conservative" by any means to exercise one's 2nd Amendment right (recently affirmed by SCOTUS - sad it came to that).  i don't think exercising this right actually should have any political ideology associated with it.

anyone see Morgan Spurlock's most recent "30 Days"  had a 2nd Amendment hater go and live with these gun-lovers.  i was completely surprised...at the end of 30 days, she actually DID kind of convert herself and had to admit that while she would still fight for gun restriction laws, she felt she now had an obligation to make sure the laws she was fighting for would not restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

yawn

[Driven1]

Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future.  Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm. 

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though. 

I am as liberal as anyone on this site, yet I feel that a segment of the population is forcing me to become conservative on so many issues.

Welcome aboard.  It has been said that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. 

I don't think it is "conservative" by any means to exercise one's 2nd Amendment right (recently affirmed by SCOTUS - sad it came to that).  i don't think exercising this right actually should have any political ideology associated with it.

anyone see Morgan Spurlock's most recent "30 Days"  had a 2nd Amendment hater go and live with these gun-lovers.  i was completely surprised...at the end of 30 days, she actually DID kind of convert herself and had to admit that while she would still fight for gun restriction laws, she felt she now had an obligation to make sure the laws she was fighting for would not restrict the rights of law-abiding gun owners.

yawn

while you may find the 2nd amendment boring, those who are defenders of the U.S. Constitution may find reason to disagree with you.

[stephendare]

double yawn.

[Driven1]

double yawn.

lol!!!  are you serious?  you find our Constitution and its Amendments boring? 

[stephendare]

no, course not...  for the record, this thread is about the riot in five points.

[getintoit]

no, course not...  for the record, this thread is about the riot in five points.

Are you going to be in Riverside today?
Please tell us what all you plan to do, I am very interested to know.

[Eazy E]

Unfortunately, I shudder for what this portends for our future.  Again, it pains my liberal conscience to admit that this situation really makes me reconsider my personal policy against owning a firearm. 

Eazy E - you are to be applauded for having the common sense and open mind to re-think your position here though. 

I am as liberal as anyone on this site, yet I feel that a segment of the population is forcing me to become conservative on so many issues.

Welcome aboard.  It has been said that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. 

Well, let's not start signing me up for the National Review just yet.  It's also been said (by me) that that conservatives are just liberals who are greedy as all hell and don't care about the ramifications (e.g. global warming, modern slavery in Tom Delay's favorite Marinara Islands, massive poverty on a global level) of that greed, or the blatant hypocrisy of that greed in the face of conservatives' other favorite, Christianity.
/ends only somewhat related rant
I agree, Stephen, that we shouldn't lose focus, but it seems that this is at least tangently related to the cause of this incident: the increasing lawlessness of a broad swath of Jacksonvill'e population.

[stephendare]

agreed easy!  but its a great discussion for politics too!

Gladly debate the merits on a thread there with you!

[Driven1]

ok - so this topic doesn't go veering off wayward, someone just created a

"Stephen Dare and the US Constitution" thread in the "Politics" section...

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,2676.0/topicseen.html


I think stephen is right - let's try to keep this one on the riots downtown.

[stephendare]

I wonder if this is the same Boyz of Poison that was listed as the performance earlier....
http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/famu_boyz_of_poison/

Founding History

Boyz of Poison was founded in the Fall semester of 1992 by Miami natives Gemiere Lattimore and Kevin Hill. Gemiere and Kevin were dancers in a well known Miami based Dance group known as No-Good-But-So-Good. No-Good-But-So-Good was best known for stage show and video appearances with controversial rap artist “Luke” (Luther Campbell). The intent of the founders was to bring a masculine representation of Miami Style/Bass dancing to Florida A&M University.

   Main Goal

The main goal of Boyz of Poison is to provide exciting choreographed dance entertainment to students at Florida A & M University, colleges throughout the country, dance competitions, and community gatherings. Boyz of Poison also aims to represent Florida A&M University by reaching adolescents and teenagers with positive messages through dance expression.

[Eazy E]

At this point, there is nothing that "can be done". It was an unfortunate violent incident, perpetrated by senseless, violent, immature thug POSes, and handled well by JSO.
Something that I think everyone is missing in this, too, is that this was the 4th of July: spirits, and tensions, run high, especially with teenagers.