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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2008, 12:37:19 AM » |
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With you on that - especially since some of the hotels that were demolished were done for surface parking lots.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2008, 12:40:49 AM » |
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Im with the Majority on this one. If funding to save PS 4 couldnt be arranged, I cant fathom where ,how , or why anyone would spend one dollar on this dilapidated , HIDEOUS ( second only to the Haydon Burns Library) Building, that yes,,,with enough dumped into it , probably could be made into something nice.
Its curse is .... it is on , or very near the epicenter of a site of a former Coal Gassification plant. It is on contaminated soil that continues to contaminate the area around it, creeks etc. To correct that, it MUST be razed in order to curtail the mess beneath it. If it were not for that fact, significant alteration and renovation might be an option. I just dont see a way it is possible in this instance. It is an old building but not that old.. When it was last "sort of " rennovated it was still uglier than a mud fence.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2008, 06:24:10 PM » |
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Boy did that building live a short life! Can't believe it was built in 1964.
The "Heart of Jax" hotel catered to the railroad people.
It was dated & a bit dismal when not even 20 years old.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2008, 03:07:57 AM » |
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I am curious how you obtained interior access? The shots are during the day, so it must have been sanctioned. Is it possible others could enter the building for the same purpose?
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2008, 08:38:52 AM » |
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The owner let us in around the time he had announced plans to turn it into an affordable housing project, a few years ago.
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2008, 07:12:43 PM » |
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By chance, do you have any idea if they'd be equally receptive these days?
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2008, 08:00:23 PM » |
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How about in connection with the giant warehouse building behind it...
TWO MORE WORDS...
Trolley Museum
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Transportation Museum
The place was trashed by railroad workers? God I can't imagine how that happened... Did they still allow us/them to hang the red lanterns outside the doors? hee hee
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2008, 06:07:52 PM » |
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That is a thought. My ONLY concern about the building remaining there,BESIDES that it leads the downtown area in Blight, is the contamination underneath it continuing to seep into waterways. IF theres a feasible way to rehab it, go to it , I say. but the thing occupies the whole city block.. appears to have a parking garage/facility inside it. Id rather see it get rehabbed than sit there and look more and more hideous every day.
We have so many buildings , some old and historic and some not so old and just abandoned and beat up , that we should try to rehab, vs demolishing every frikkin thing in sight and building new. I havent changed my tune about the Park View.. Its still HIDEOUS ... however, im in favor of a rehab , vs it just sitting there in a funk.
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2008, 11:05:50 AM » |
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2008, 11:12:02 AM » |
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So was Stephen Dare right about recent tests showing the ground underneath it not being contaminated?
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2008, 11:36:32 AM » |
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So, they demolish it for what? Is FCCJ interested in the site?
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2008, 11:45:35 AM » |
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So the city is paying for the demolition? It can't be cheap.
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2008, 11:53:06 AM » |
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So, they demolish it for what? Is FCCJ interested in the site?
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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2008, 01:03:36 PM » |
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Wow. What a wonderful city we live in when the answer to everything is to just demolish it. I wonder if anyone did a cost analysis on this project. I mean, how much would it cost to bring it up to code vs. tearing it down...including the costs of upkeep (not that the city does this) on an empty lot after demolition? Wouldn't it just make more sense for the city to help out history, Springfield, the city of Jax and the property owner by throwing money into correcting the violations?  Wait, of course no one thought of that. That would be a logical and rational solution to the problem and when's the last time you heard about COJ doing anything logical or rational. Dumbasses. |
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2008, 01:17:12 PM » |
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Although the Park View is an eyesore, the area is not going to look any better without it. It's just a bad situation all around.
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