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spuwho

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OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« on: February 03, 2013, 01:39:29 AM »
A good problem to have, all these rail services want to stop at your airport, what to do? Start a study!

Per the Orlando Sentinel

Three train systems want to connect with Orlando International Airport within the next couple of years, but no one can say for sure how, much less if, they ever will.

A $1.7 million study could answer those questions, as well as allow airport officials to seek federal money to help pay for possible connections.

Three dozen transportation consultants, plus local, state and federal officials, including aides to U.S. Rep. John Mica, R-Winter Park, and Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., gathered at the airport Thursday to discuss the study.

They were told that OIA and the surrounding area must have alternatives to the automobile if the airport is to continue to efficiently serve people flying in and out of Metro Orlando.

"The travel demands are huge," said John Mason, a consultant with HDR Engineering, which is heading up a study being paid for by OIA, Orange and Osceola counties, Orlando and the Florida Department of Transportation.

So far, the $1.2 billion SunRail commuter train is the only operation that appears certain to operate. It is being built now by the state and will start running in mid 2014 from DeBary in Volusia County, through downtown Orlando, to Sand Lake Road, just north of the airport.

Buses are expected to ferry passengers between the airport and the SunRail station on Sand Lake, though exactly how that setup will work is still being worked out. The study could clarify the arrangement.

All Aboard Florida, a Coral Gables based company, wants to build a $1.5 billion train linking South Florida with OIA by 2015.

And American Maglev has offered to spend $315 million on an elevated system powered by electrified magnets to take people from the airport to the Orange County Convention Center. The owner, Tony Morris, has promised to have it complete next year, if he can get government approval.

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Re: OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2013, 01:41:36 AM »
The Orlando Business Journal reports on same issue:

When SunRail begins running from DeLand to Sand Lake Road in 2014, a plan will be in place to connect to areas east and west of the commuter rail system.

Devising how to connect SunRail to Orlando International Airport, Lake Nona, International Drive and northern Osceola County is the aim of a $1.7 million Florida Department of Transportation study expected to be completed in April 2014.

Launched in December, the study will look at mass transportation alternatives in an area bounded by Interstate 4 on the west, Oak Ridge Road and Hoffner Avenue on the north, Narcoossee Road on the east and Osceola Parkway on the south. The state outlined its study at a meeting at Orlando International Airport Jan. 31.

When completed, the study will recommend mass transportation alternatives for the area, how much they will cost and how they could be funded. It will also study how any new system would connect with Lynx and the I-Ride system along International Drive.

The study updates a similar study in 2005, but because of changes in transportation projects — the launch of SunRail and proposed American Maglev Inc. and All Aboard Florida — the state is “starting from scratch” John Mason of the Orlando office of HDR Inc. told those attending the meeting. HDR is conducting the study for the state.

“With the change in regional transit environment, the solution proposed in 2005 may no longer be appropriate solution,” Mason said.

The last study recommended building a 14-mile OIA Connector Light Rail Transit system, connecting the airport with International Drive. The project, estimated in 2004 to cost $617 million, has not been funded.

Roadway improvements are not included in the study, although it may recommend dedicated bus lanes like those used by the Lymmo in downtown Orlando.

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Re: OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2013, 01:16:49 PM »
yes, this is a study being led by FDOT to determine what and how rail will connect with OIA.  The airport is working on a separate study to evaluate circulation needs on property related to the potential intermodal station

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Re: OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2013, 01:22:22 PM »
What a great place for FDOT to install a state-of-the-art BRT system, lay out a cool $50M a mile and make OIA even less connected to the city then it already is. Meanwhile we can all watch as the highway boys at FDOT completely wreck whatever is left of Orlando.

Imagine, $1.7M to 'study' how to get Sunrail passengers to OIA and AAF passengers into downtown Orlando when there is already a rail connection between the south end of airport and CSX-Sunrail. Why not just save the money and ask Disney what they want, after all it's all their show anyhow.  ;D

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Re: OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 02:46:05 PM »
$1.7 million for the study is just a drop in the bucket.  Scott just approved spending over $2 billion to install lexus lanes on I-4 between Kirkman Road and Longwood.  It's predicted that the tolls will generate $28 million annually by 2020. 

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-02-01/news/os-tolls-interstate4-orlando-20130201_1_toll-lanes-charges-drivers-orlando-sentinel

Anyone ever try running the numbers on projects like this long term?  By the time you get close to equaling the initial +$2 billion investment, you would have already had to rebuild the damned thing.  I'd suffice to say the HSR project Scott killed would actually bring taxpayers a higher return of investment.
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Re: OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 08:09:43 PM »
And another $2billion to complete theirbeltway

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Re: OIA to spend $1.7M to study rail
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 08:47:27 PM »
What type of ROI do they expect for this $4 billion?  At least in the case of the FCOB, you can sprawl out Clay and St. Johns County.  Wekiva Parkway travels through environmentally sensitive land and the I-4 lexus lanes are in a highway segment already developed.  Is this as simple as throwing the roadway construction industry a bone?