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sheclown

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First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« on: October 28, 2011, 08:22:25 PM »
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Ms. Scott-
This email is to inform you as the Chief of the Municipal Code Compliance that the Historic Preservation Section of the Planning and Development Department has received a COA for mothballing the property located at 423 Walnut Street.  We have tentatively scheduled this application for the Tuesday, November 15, 2011 meeting of the Jacksonville Historic Preservation Commission.  Please consider this notification of the upcoming public hearing for this application as required under Chapter 307.303(b), Jacksonville Ordinance Code.
 
Sincerely,
 
Lisa Sheppard, AICP, LEED® AP
Senior Historic Preservation Planner
City of Jacksonville
Planning and Development Department
Ed Ball Building
214 North Hogan Street, Suite 300
Jacksonville, FL 32202
Phone: 904-255-7843
Fax: 904-255-7885
Email: sheppard@coj.net

 ;D

(it is court and not street, but minor details)

ChriswUfGator

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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 08:42:14 PM »
MetoJacksonville members;

This is the first Mothballing application ever, it is the test case. We believe we have a very strong case, with all the conditions met, and that we're entitled to the COA, having met all of the conditions precedent. However, we believe that this application will be opposed by MCCD, and as always in municipal government one thing matters above all else; (using Gloria & Nicole's term) Butts in Seats.

I would invite every concerned preservationist to appear at the November 15th 2011 HPC meeting at 3pm, to demonstrate support for this important safety measure to preserve our endangered historic structures. Butts in seats sends a clear message, any and all support will be greatly appreciated!
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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 10:28:58 PM »
Municiple Code should be GRATEFUL that we took a home "off their hands" a home that we will maintain for the community and keep safe: effectively being the homes guardian.  And a damn good one at that. 

There is absolutely no reason they should show up other than to say "thank you"  "let us know how we can help you."

Code needs to find a new path.  And I'm gonna leave it at that for now. 

12 is a good number.

Let's get 12 butts in 12 chairs Nov. 15th for the HPC meeting.  Can't be a butt in a chair?  You most certainly can email your support for the mothballing COA for 423 Walnut Court: sheppard@coj.net 


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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 07:54:07 AM »
PSOS needs your support on this.  We need the city to realize that the neighborhood backs us on this project and has faith in our ability to do what we say.

It's not too early to send your email today.

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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 08:00:51 AM »
The meeting begins at 3:00.  It is a light agenda and will be over fairly soon.

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2011, 01:22:15 PM »
Interesting things happening today. 

First this:



And then my journey to the building inspection department. 

I talked to a great guy, Chuck, assistant supervisor -- talked to him about the temporary bracing. 

He would like mothballing to have to go to building department for an alteration and repair permit, in this case to do temporary bracing of the columns.  Once a building permit is issued, the property's jurisdiction is the building department (who is in a much better place to determine the structural integrity of building components).  They are not going to care about the color of the plywood, so the non-structural issues will still be determined by HPC, along with blight-reducing components, landscaping, painting and etc.

Even though there will be a cost associated with pulling a permit (the permit cost is probably going to be $154), I think it is well worth it to have the building department determine whether or not a building can stand without posing a threat to the neighbors and direct contractors and homeowners how to make it stable.

My next step is to draw up our temporary bracing ideas, write up a permit -- it is easy for us with my being a building contractor and all, (all mothballees will have to use a licensed contractor to pull the alterations and repair permit for the structural mothballing issues) -- and go back to the building inspection department and pull our alteration and repair permit. 

After the temporary bracing is complete, the building department will come to the job and inspect.  Once it has passed, it will be finalized.

HPC's inspector, Martin Kennelly, will be responsible to inspect all non-structural elements of the mothballing COA.

Perfect!
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 06:57:36 PM »
Pulled the building permit today.

It is for temporary bracing.

There will be one inspection required.

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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 07:03:06 AM »
Is code still hasselling you?

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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 07:18:09 AM »
We'll know more after Tuesday's HPC meeting!


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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2011, 04:59:44 PM »
APPROVED.
APPROVED!
APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We were granted the COA!
We did it!


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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 06:44:24 PM »
Lisa Sheppard was beyond great

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 02:49:22 AM »
Lisa Sheppard worked very hard to make this work in spite of deadline issues.  She came to Walnut Court, crawled around (including under) the house to help us make a plan that would be acceptable to the commissioners for this most important first mothball COA.  Most of the work on this was off of the clock for her -- late at night and early in the mornings.  She put in the extra time to make sure it would happen for us quickly as a protection against further fines from code enforcement and to protect the property in its vulnerable state.

We were also helped out by our attorney, Chris Wickersham, who generously donated his time for this and our architect, Robert Porter, who also donated his time taking photos and giving his professional opinion about structural matters out of a desire to save historic structures.  Both of them were at the meeting as well.

This world of ours can be changed with a little elbow grease.

Now, get out there and mothball a house all of you who are contemplating buying a house in this fire-sale economy.  Save them.  We did.  You can too!


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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 10:20:07 AM »
Yup, we won.

And to be honest, it was pretty anticlimactic. We were prepared as though for trial, and there was some uncertainty where we knew MCCD was in possession of an engineering report from Atlantic Engineering, which they wouldn't acknowledge and hadn't provided to us. So our only choice was to go ahead and have an AIA inspect the property and appear live to testify. We had pictures of what MCCD had claimed were "structural" deficiencies, including the now-infamous "missing or deteriorated" foundational pier that was really an original cantilevered bay window that never had a pier to begin with.

So we show up, and saw the proposed findings and recommendations, and we were stunned. Despite all of MCCD's back-and-forth, repeatedly trying to stall the hearing, trying to redefine "unsafe" as not being eligible for a certificate of occupancy, etc., as it turned out the HPC's proposed findings and recommendations were perfectly reasonable. With the exception of a recommendation that we add vent holes in boarded windows to dissipate interior moisture, they were all things that we were going to do anyway. And the vent holes are actually a good idea, I'm glad they suggested it. The proposal followed the mothballing ordinance and was well thought out. There was nothing to argue over, we were happy with it as soon as we read it.

Code sent 3 guys to the hearing to sit in the back and stare at us, but when the time for MCCD to speak and argue their objections came, they all sat there and none of them spoke. Which threw me for a loop, as I expected them to at least give it a try, and was prepared for it. We all suspected that they'd re-read the file and probably went back out to the house, and realized it was just going to get embarassing for them. Their alleged structural deficiences were very demonstrably nothing more than make-believe, which we were actually looking forward to showing.

Once code decided they weren't going to object, there was no point in putting on the evidence, so we didn't. At that point, because this was the first-ever mothballed property, you run the risk of setting a precedential bar too high if you get into overkill. The HPC approved our unopposed application, and that was that. So it went well, and we are the first mothballed property under the new ordinance. And, at long last, it looks like MCCD is finally becoming aware that they have public relations risk. Of course that horse is already out of the barn and two states away at this point, but I suppose it's better late than never.


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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 10:34:13 AM »
Yeeehaw! This is an amazing news for everyone in Jacksonville who are concerned about saving homes. This is the beginning of a new chapter especially for Springfield.

(Acting like Noone's suspenseful speech on MJ because I like how he say things)

As the history suggests... when Jacksonville was burned alive from the Great Fire of 1901, Springfield was the shining beacon that SAVED Jacksonville.

Now, it is Springfield's turn to be saved by the same city who was saved... and many more areas.

The war on the Battlefield Springfield is finally start to turn...

Thanks to our loyal army of heroes of volunteers and professionals!

BRING IT ON, GOVERNMENT!

-Josh
"When I take over JTA, the PCT'S will become artificial reefs and thus serve a REAL purpose. - OCKLAWAHA"

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Re: First Mothballing COA applied for! & its us :)
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2011, 10:57:11 AM »
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what MCCD had claimed were "structural" deficiencies, including the now-infamous "missing or deteriorated" foundational pier that was really an original cantilevered bay window that never had a pier to begin with

haha love this!