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Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #3495 on: January 17, 2013, 07:49:42 AM »
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Jaguars hire Gus Bradley as head coach

 Posted by Michael David Smith on January 17, 2013, 7:46 AM EST
 
That’s the word from ESPN’s Adam Schefter, who reported on Thursday morning that Bradley had accepted the Jaguars’ head-coaching position.
 
Bradley, a defensive coordinator who spent the last four years on the Seahawks’ staff, became a hot coaching candidate after Seattle’s defense went on a dominant run down the stretch in the regular season.
 
Bradley was believed to be the Eagles’ choice if they hadn’t been able to convince Chip Kelly to leave Oregon. As it turned out, even though Bradley lost out on the Philadelphia job, it took him less than 24 hours to become coach of the Jaguars.
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« Reply #3496 on: January 17, 2013, 08:45:27 AM »
Fun with co-workers: Tell them Bradley was the DC at UF this year and see how many blindly say it is a great hire.
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Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #3497 on: January 17, 2013, 09:08:45 AM »
so while every other team is hiring an offensive coach, the Jags go with a defensive one.   Sounds typical.

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« Reply #3498 on: January 17, 2013, 09:21:13 AM »
so while every other team is hiring an offensive coach, the Jags go with a defensive one.   Sounds typical.

Lets wait and see who they hire as OC before we pass judgement. Philedelphia was going to hire him if Chip Kelly didn't work out. Most in Philly think they made a mistake and should have hired Gus, if that means anything.

Lets get this coaching staff changed, then we can start clearing out the roster. That will be a monumental task. Time to pay the piper for a terrible season, players.

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« Reply #3499 on: January 17, 2013, 09:35:01 AM »
^ Agree.

Also, lets not forget out D was ranked 30/32. We need improvement on both sides of the ball. Just because he's "defensive minded" doesn't mean, with the addition of new GM/coach/OC, we won't be an offensive minded club. Good defense doesn't mean bad offense.
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Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #3500 on: January 17, 2013, 09:57:04 AM »
For what it's worth, after scanning NFL.com, cbssports.com, espn.com, and cnnsi.com, fans of Seattle, and people who follow northwest football, seem to think this is a great move. The guy turned Seattle's D into a powerhouse after only 2 years. I suspect the same will happen here with a new coach, GM, and OC.
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« Reply #3501 on: January 17, 2013, 10:33:44 AM »
so while every other team is hiring an offensive coach, the Jags go with a defensive one.   Sounds typical.

The kind of coordinator a coach was isn't a death sentence to the opposite side of the ball. 

Often it's the opposite of that, such as when the Ravens hired Brian Billick, who coordinated Minnesota's great late 90s offenses, and became strongly identified as a defensive powerhouse under him.  The Falcons have had very good offenses under former defensive coordinator Mike Smith.  Belichick was a defensive coach, and the Patriots have done a few things on offense in the past decade.  Ron Rivera was a defensive coordinator, but the Panthers have been much stronger on offense than defense.

But hey, why consider any of that when feeling good about bashing the Jaguars is an option?
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« Reply #3502 on: January 17, 2013, 10:53:11 AM »
Im good with the hire. Any coach is only as good as the staff around him. Mularkey was "offensive minded" and we see how that turned out. I think Gus will bring some swagger and aggression to both sides of the ball that we have not had since the 90's. IF our entire team can be agreessive as the seahawks defense, Im down for it.  We had a very agressive defense and running game under del rio, but I think Gus will bring it to all aspects of the game. With the state of our team, you have to focus on both sides of the ball, you have no choice focus on the entire team.
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« Reply #3503 on: January 17, 2013, 11:07:59 AM »
so while every other team is hiring an offensive coach, the Jags go with a defensive one.   Sounds typical.

Lets wait and see who they hire as OC before we pass judgement. Philedelphia was going to hire him if Chip Kelly didn't work out. Most in Philly think they made a mistake and should have hired Gus, if that means anything.

Lets get this coaching staff changed, then we can start clearing out the roster. That will be a monumental task. Time to pay the piper for a terrible season, players.

Put on your seat belt Dan. Clearing out a roster wont happen in one off season. That is something that happens over the course of time. At the most, they will start by releasing the marjority of our free agents, ( I only see us keeping Daryl Smith, Cox, and pot roast). Most of those guys will be weeded out over time. We also must remember, the people that work in the NFL dont view the players the same as we do. We may consider a player terrible, but they may see them as an asset. Alot of players are victims of bad situations. How many times have we seen players be released from bad teams, then go to other team and excel?? The situation has to be right. And the 2012 Jaguars for many reason was a terrible situation for any and everyone.
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« Reply #3504 on: January 17, 2013, 11:14:09 AM »
so while every other team is hiring an offensive coach, the Jags go with a defensive one.   Sounds typical.

The kind of coordinator a coach was isn't a death sentence to the opposite side of the ball. 

Often it's the opposite of that, such as when the Ravens hired Brian Billick, who coordinated Minnesota's great late 90s offenses, and became strongly identified as a defensive powerhouse under him.  The Falcons have had very good offenses under former defensive coordinator Mike Smith.  Belichick was a defensive coach, and the Patriots have done a few things on offense in the past decade.  Ron Rivera was a defensive coordinator, but the Panthers have been much stronger on offense than defense.

But hey, why consider any of that when feeling good about bashing the Jaguars is an option?

not bashing, but out of all 7 NFL head men hired this year, the Jags are the only ones who went with a defensive minded guy.  The league is changing, many of those that failed to see that have been given walking papers this year.

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« Reply #3505 on: January 17, 2013, 11:16:35 AM »
the people that work in the NFL dont view the players the same as we do. We may consider a player terrible, but they may see them as an asset. Alot of players are victims of bad situations. How many times have we seen players be released from bad teams, then go to other team and excel?? The situation has to be right. And the 2012 Jaguars for many reason was a terrible situation for any and everyone.

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« Reply #3506 on: January 17, 2013, 11:23:05 AM »
not bashing, but out of all 7 NFL head men hired this year, the Jags are the only ones who went with a defensive minded guy.  The league is changing, many of those that failed to see that have been given walking papers this year.

Again, we're not 'football people'. 

Let me ask you this, do you think that a defensive coordinator spends more time watching their opponents' offensive scheme or focusing on the manner that other defenses that were able to contain them?

See, it works both ways. 

Hire an OC that you know can run multiple types of offenses, assist him in exploiting the opponents' D that our HC will be already familiar with and go. 

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Re: The Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #3507 on: January 17, 2013, 11:40:48 AM »
so while every other team is hiring an offensive coach, the Jags go with a defensive one.   Sounds typical.

The kind of coordinator a coach was isn't a death sentence to the opposite side of the ball. 

Often it's the opposite of that, such as when the Ravens hired Brian Billick, who coordinated Minnesota's great late 90s offenses, and became strongly identified as a defensive powerhouse under him.  The Falcons have had very good offenses under former defensive coordinator Mike Smith.  Belichick was a defensive coach, and the Patriots have done a few things on offense in the past decade.  Ron Rivera was a defensive coordinator, but the Panthers have been much stronger on offense than defense.

But hey, why consider any of that when feeling good about bashing the Jaguars is an option?

not bashing, but out of all 7 NFL head men hired this year, the Jags are the only ones who went with a defensive minded guy.  The league is changing, many of those that failed to see that have been given walking papers this year.

What about the head coaches still in the playoffs? What is their background?

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« Reply #3508 on: January 17, 2013, 12:27:14 PM »
2 offensive guys and 2 defensive guys.

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« Reply #3509 on: January 17, 2013, 12:29:17 PM »
not bashing, but out of all 7 NFL head men hired this year, the Jags are the only ones who went with a defensive minded guy.  The league is changing, many of those that failed to see that have been given walking papers this year.

Again, we're not 'football people'. 

Let me ask you this, do you think that a defensive coordinator spends more time watching their opponents' offensive scheme or focusing on the manner that other defenses that were able to contain them?

See, it works both ways. 

Hire an OC that you know can run multiple types of offenses, assist him in exploiting the opponents' D that our HC will be already familiar with and go.

I think I'm scared because I paid money to watch John Fox neuter his OCs time and time again in Carolina.  Actually, he did that again last Saturday.