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Friday, 25 July 2008

There are some things that you just can't compare.  Holding Urban Jacksonville up against Manhattan just doesn't seem fair.  Today, from the top of a double decker tour bus, Metro Jacksonville shares sights from America's premier urban center: New York.

 Statistics:

New York Population 2006: 8,274,527 (City); 18,818,536 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1625)

Jacksonville Pop. 2006: 794,555 (City); 1,300,823 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1832)

City population 1950: Jacksonville (204,517); New York City (7,891,957)

City Population density 1950: Jacksonville (6,772); New York City (25,046)

 

Manhattan Photo Tour:





 JaxPort is the nation's second largest for the import and export of automobiles behind the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.










 The Bronx, New York City's northernmost borough, is the birthplace of rap and hip hop culture.
Jacksonville is the birthplace of Southern Rock.





 







According to Walkscore, Manhattan's Murray Hill is New York's fifth most walkable neighborhood, scoring a 99 out of 100 with 25,091 residents. 

According to Walkscore, Jacksonville's Murray Hill (named after New York's), is the First Coast's largest urban neighborhood, scoring a 67 out of 100 with 10,392 residents.











813,669 New York City (1860)
805,605 Jacksonville (2008)
 















JaxPort is the nation's second largest for the import and export of automobiles behind the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. 









 Manhattan's Harlem was the center of black culture that became known as the Harlem Renaissance in the 1920s.
Jacksonville's LaVilla, was known as the "Harlem of the South" from 1921-1971.

 
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>> 21 Comments
jeh1980
July 25, 2008, 5:31 am
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We can learn a lot from Manhattan. I think that in my opinion, a little bit of New York's Times Square will definately be needed in downtown Jacksonville soon...perhaps on some parts of Bay Street or Laura Street. Good article. Jacksonville, do lose hope. Expand your vision! Cool
copperfiend
July 25, 2008, 7:26 am
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I have friends and family in Brooklyn and try to make it up there as much as possible. It's great how many historic structures have beens saved in the city. I love the neighborhoods and how each one is self sufficient. It's an amazing place.
pwhitford
July 25, 2008, 9:59 am
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I was born and raised in NYC (in The Bronx, in fact) and didn't leave it until 2003.  I can't tell you how good it feels just seeing these pictures.  I recognize almost every single location and most of them evoke very specific memories for me.  Beautiful job on the pictures.  Thank you. 

Of course, now having said that, it's time to get back to making Jacksonville, especially downtown, the vibrant, desirable destination it should be.
brooklynborn
July 25, 2008, 11:35 am
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hi guys. First off I want to tell u how I enjoy this site. I like to see people who want to see there city grow and become what it should be. im also from nyc(brooklyn) and my wife and we been here for a year and some months. we love the weather but unfortunately we r a little bored,not bashin jax because I have some family here and i had alot of fun when I was young visting but I dont understand the city's downtown fabric. I thought a city's downtown is supposed to be the happening spot and everything is so far away. Im Afraid to bring my cousin and friends( they from brooklyn too so u guys know how that goes)because they r used to doing things all day and all night. There's nuthin wrong with taking elements from the greatest city in the world and adding ur own southern history to it(look at atlanta). love the pics from nyc and keep this up guys it will continue to visit this site. P.S Where do u guys hold ur meeting or do u have meetings?
thelakelander
July 25, 2008, 12:06 pm
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We hold our meetings 6pm, every Tuesday night at the Hola Mexican Restaurant (1001 North Main Street).
Jason
July 25, 2008, 12:32 pm
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Manhattan....

Soon my dream to visit the NYC will come true.
ProjectMaximus
July 25, 2008, 12:49 pm
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When was MJ in NYC? I just got back after spending most of this week there.
thelakelander
July 25, 2008, 12:52 pm
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Tuesday and Wednesday of last week and Monday of this week.
brooklynborn
July 25, 2008, 1:17 pm
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thanks. I will be there.
brooklynborn
July 25, 2008, 1:22 pm
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It does really seem unfair to compare jax to nyc.
pwhitford
July 25, 2008, 1:49 pm
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The skyline in that first shot (with the cruise liner) still looks weird to me without the WTC.  But it’s nice to see scenes of “normalcy” in the other shots showing the area around the reconstruction effort.
RiversideGator
July 26, 2008, 1:18 am
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Great shots of one of the greatest cities in the world.  Thanks for posting them.  Who took these BTW?

Also, I thought the Russian Tea Room had been closed yet there is some sort of sign for it here:



Anyone know about this?  I dined there in 2001 and it was great.  I heard it had closed but hopefully it has been revived.
Ocklawaha
July 26, 2008, 1:55 am
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I'm waiting for the "learning from Starke, Palatka, Lulu and Two Egg" segments to start. I figure they're much more important to me then New York City.

OCKLAWAHA
thelakelander
July 26, 2008, 6:13 am
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Great shots of one of the greatest cities in the world.  Thanks for posting them.  Who took these BTW?

I took some last Wednesday and a few more this past Monday.  Its the first of about 15 Northeast cities I spent time in over the last week or so.
ProjectMaximus
July 26, 2008, 11:29 am
Re: Elements of Urbanism: Manhattan

Great shots of one of the greatest cities in the world.  Thanks for posting them.  Who took these BTW?

I took some last Wednesday and a few more this past Monday.  Its the first of about 15 Northeast cities I spent time in over the last week or so.

Well, terrific pics! You must have had a blast with your travels. I hit up DC and Philly (and the aforementioned Manhattan) last week. Lot of nice things in those places as well.
thelakelander
July 26, 2008, 2:29 pm
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I had a blast indeed.  I'll have to hit up DC and Philly soon.  There's a lot of good things happening in those places.
RiversideGator
July 26, 2008, 3:38 pm
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Great shots of one of the greatest cities in the world.  Thanks for posting them.  Who took these BTW?

I took some last Wednesday and a few more this past Monday.  Its the first of about 15 Northeast cities I spent time in over the last week or so.

Wow.  That sounds like a lot of fun.  I am jealous now, Lake.   Grin
winlewis123
July 29, 2008, 1:55 pm
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The pics literally almost bought tears to my eyes.  I too am from NY and the pics alone gives me the sense of communities, family and friends.  I love the vibrancy of the state.  I live in Orlando now and am hoping to relocate to Jacksonville as I feel they have a lot of potentials.  However, I must agree that it we don't get some new ideas and younger folks up in Tallahasse to make some sound decisions as well as our local politicians FLORIDA as a whole we cease and Disney will eventually move on.  I truly love this website as it gives great information regarding the city of Jacksonville. Fantastic work to all involved and I look forward to reading and viewing more pics and hopefully sharing in the vision of a VIBRANT JACKSONVILLE...............
brooklynborn
August 1, 2008, 2:12 pm
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I need to understand something here, does jacksonville love parking lots? I mean they are huge here. If u look at nyc everthing is streetfront with a large sidewalk for foot traffic, me and my wife love to walk around back home. U cant do that here. Is there a law here that u cant build storefront propertys here? That creates a walkable city
Fishy Books
August 1, 2008, 5:45 pm
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Why in god's unspoken name would we want our city to be anything like what is in these pics? I think that growth is all well and good as long as it is controlled and purposeful (which Jax has not been). I think the things that we can learn from NYC are few and far between and most of them entail what not to do.
Lunican
August 2, 2008, 10:04 am
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Here's why:









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