| How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare? |
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| Friday, 09 May 2008 | |
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Find out where Jacksonville's mass transit ridership ranks among America's largest urban areas.
1 New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT 199.8 2 San Francisco-Oakland, CA 130.1 3 Washington, DC-VA-MD 117.2 4 Honolulu, HI 99.8 5 Boston, MA-NH-RI 95.9 6 Chicago, IL-IN 73.5 7 Portland, OR-WA 67.9 8 Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD 66.4 9 Seattle, WA 62.2 10 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 59.4 11 Baltimore, MD 52.3 12 Las Vegas, NV 51.5 13 Denver-Aurora, CO 43.6 14 Salt Lake City, UT 43.5 15 Atlanta, GA 42.4 16 Pittsburgh, PA 40.9 17 Cleveland, OH 39.3 18 Austin, TX 39.2 19 Milwaukee, WI 38.7 20 Madison, WI 37.3 21 San Diego, CA 35.9 22 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN 35.7 23 Miami, FL 33.1 24 San Antonio, TX 32.1 25 San Juan, PR 32.1 26 Reno, NV 29.5 27 Charlotte, NC-SC 27.9 28 Spokane, WA-ID 27.1 29 Houston, TX 26.8 30 San Jose, CA 26.6 31 Syracuse, NY 26.1 32 St. Louis, MO-IL 25.2 33 Sacramento, CA 24.9 34 Tucson, AZ 24.7 35 Buffalo, NY 24.3 36 Albany, NY 23.0 37 Phoenix-Mesa, AZ 22.1 38 Orlando, FL 21.9 39 Fresno, CA 21.5 40 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 20.7 41 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN 19.5 42 Hartford, CT 19.2 43 El Paso, TX-NM 18.4 44 Dayton, OH 18.3 45 Rochester, NY 18.2 46 Providence, RI-MA 18.0 47 Richmond, VA 17.5 48 Louisville, KY-IN 17.4 49 Springfield, MA-CT 17.3 50 Virginia Beach, VA 17.2 51 Bakersfield, CA 16.6 52 New Haven, CT 16.5 53 Riverside-San Bernardino, CA 15.1 54 Stockton, CA 14.9 55 Albuquerque, NM 14.6 56 Flint, MI 14.6 57 Grand Rapids, MI 13.8 58 Columbus, OH 13.2 59 Jacksonville, FL 13.2 60 Detroit, MI 13.1 61 Toledo, OH-MI 12.4 62 Oxnard, CA 12.4 63 Akron, OH 12.3 64 Des Moines, IA 12.2 65 Tampa-St. Petersburg, FL 12.1 66 Memphis, TN-MS-AR 12.1 67 Modesto, CA 12.0 68 Scranton, PA 11.8 69 Concord, CA 11.6 70 Bridgeport-Stamford, CT-NY 11.4 71 Kansas City, MO-KS 11.2 72 Raleigh, NC 10.9 73 New Orleans, LA 10.6 74 Nashville-Davidson, TN 10.5 75 Allentown-Bethlehem, PA-NJ 9.7 76 Baton Rouge, LA 9.6 77 Cape Coral, FL 9.3 78 Chattanooga, TN-GA 9.0 79 Indianapolis, IN 8.2 80 Knoxville, TN 8.2 81 Worcester, MA-CT 8.0 82 Colorado Springs, CO 7.5 83 Lancaster, PA 7.3 84 Sarasota-Bradenton, FL 6.9 85 Harrisburg, PA 6.8 86 Little Rock, AR 6.7 87 Charleston-North Charleston, SC 6.5 88 Omaha, NE-IA 6.3 89 Columbia, SC 6.1 90 Birmingham, AL 5.5 91 Poughkeepsie-Newburgh, NY 5.5 92 Wichita, KS 5.5 93 Tulsa, OK 4.8 94 Youngstown, OH-PA 4.2 95 Oklahoma City, OK 3.9 96 Pensacola, FL-AL 3.8 97 Palm Bay-Melbourne, FL 3.8 98 Mobile, AL 3.0 99 Augusta-Richmond County, GA-SC 2.8 100 McAllen, TX 0.11 Source: The National Transit Database |
May 9, 2008, 8:26 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
Jax is actually higer than Charleston and Detroit...
May 9, 2008, 8:52 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
Those numbers aren't terrible, but we can still get them much higher. Most of the cities that rank higher all have rail based systems.
May 9, 2008, 9:21 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
Stockton? Flint? Fresburg? Wow, such great company for the BOLD NEW CITY OF THE SOUTH! LOL... But give credit, JTA must deal with City Hall and Tallahassee, not what anyone would call transit GENIUS! The real roll of shame on this is ORLANDO...and they HAVE (limited) BRT!
Ocklawaha
May 9, 2008, 9:28 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
Where is Orlando's limited BRT? Are you referring to that little free downtown bus loop that serves the same purpose as JTA's "trolleys" here?
May 9, 2008, 10:17 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
What does "TRANSIT UNLINKED PASSENGER TRIPS PER CAPITA" mean?
May 9, 2008, 10:50 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
Lake, yes, by the rules of BRT Orlandos Lymmo counts as BRT. It's all about the cafe of toys you buy for the bus and in this case, dedicated lanes, stations, signs, real-time information etc... it's all there. We do PCT Trolleys and they do REAL BRT. Impressive isn't it?
Unlinked Transit Trips Per Capita are trips per 100,000 that are not linked as in 3 different bus lines to make a single trip. Say Northwest, Downtown and a Southside bus. That would be a linked trip. What they are counting is the single point to point trips per capita.
Hope that helps
Ocklawaha
Checking out for a few, headed to "The City Mickey Mouse"
May 9, 2008, 11:01 am
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
It hasn't been real successful in terms of stimulating economic development in downtown Orlando, but its a completely different form of BRT compared to what is planned in Jacksonville. Its basically JTA's "trolley" rolling around in its own dedicated lanes in a loop around the core of downtown. We're talking about building a regional mass transit trunk line with BRT, while that one is more of a downtown connector. What is interesting to note is the path of development in Orlando since it was installed. Downtown's most vibrant streets are Orange (between Church and Washington Streets) and Central (between Orange and Summerlin Avenues). The streets that the bus loop goes down are secondary with little street level pedestrian activity, compared to the others.
This should be a lesson for us as we plan our system.
May 9, 2008, 6:14 pm
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
While it may not seem like it, Brooklyn Park is still a go. Plans are still being worked on to make this project work. At this time, the plan calls for a full mixed use center with 2 hotels, 600 residential units, an office contingent and between 80-100,000 SF of retail space.
The feasibility and time frames of this project should be more clear within the next 2 months or so.
May 12, 2008, 7:11 pm
Re: How do JTA's Ridership Numbers Compare?
I had a sweet little day dream while driving down Main St today--I dreamed a trolley was deing put in again.
We have to bite the bullet and invest in the future---we'll thank ourselves.
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