| The Markets at Town Center |
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| Thursday, 27 March 2008 | |
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The area around the St. Johns Town Center continues to grow. The Markets At Town Center is the latest retail complex scheduled to rise at Southside's JTB & Gate Parkway.
Developer: Pinehill Development Company - Atlanta, GA Architect: Phillips Partnership PC - Atlanta, GA Builder: Balfour Beatty Construction - Dallas, TX Size: 350,000 square feet Acreage: 52.5 acres Location: Town Center Parkway at Gate Parkway, just north of Costco and J. Turner Butler Boulevard
The Markets at Town Center will feature: Toys “R” Us / Babies “R” Us
Announced tenants: _ Stoney River
Site Plan maps also indicate the future locations of Nordstroms and Neiman Marcus at the St. Johns Town Center. Ben Carter Properties expects construction to break ground on phase III of the St. Johns Town Center later this year.
The Markets at Town Center is currently under construction and expected to open Fall 2008. For more information, visit: www.marketsattowncenter.com
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March 27, 2008, 9:28 am
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Ugh. Just what we need, more stores. I'm moving to South Dakota to live in what's left of nature before the bulldozers come in and put up a slutty-clothing-for-little-girls store (Justice).
Btw, have you every tried riding your bike in the bike lanes around that place? Hell, even riding your bike into the place to go shopping is a nightmare. People are speeding, weaving, cutting, and dodging all over. And, really folks, do we need another Starbuck's there??? Let's see, there's one in the Barnes and Nobles, then there's the one across from the park, then there's the one next to Publix...oh, and let's not forget the one inside the Target store. So, we need a fifth??? Sounds to me like someone's been drinking a fifth.
March 27, 2008, 10:08 am
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I just got back from Maine, there is plenty of wilderness up there too, and your only a few hours from places like Boston and NYC.
BTW, Bangor would be an interesting city to see a comparison of. Its got a large blue collar/industrial thing going on, and Maine has a very large percentage of people dependent on social services in general, but downtown Bangor seemed to have some life, at least during the day, and they have done a great job of saving the old buildings.
March 27, 2008, 12:23 pm
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More Sprawl but Jax still has time if we could get an administration that is serious about infill. We do have a lot of wonderful natural space left. We do have our work cut out saving the river. As for SJTC this area has been claimed by the developers if we have to have more mall stores this is where we want them.
March 28, 2008, 12:26 am
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Great development. Maybe someday, the downtown area (particularly the LaVilla or Brooklyn section will be next in line for something like this.
March 28, 2008, 1:46 am
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I'm glad to see that Nordstroms and Neiman Marcus are coming to town. There really is no reason that Jax should have waited this long with out some high end retailers.
Downtown is never going to be anything without leadership from the mayor's office and some big venture capitalist investing big bucks down there. I hate to pin this on the Republicans, but as conservative as this town is, a lot of those conservaitves could care less about developing downtown. It is just farther away than where they live out in the suburbs and exurbs. We all know John Peyton isn't going to do squat and I doubt anything would happen without some Democratic leadership in the mayor's office, which ain't happening in Duval County.
It isn't going to be too long before more money will have to be spent to fix the intersection of JTB and Gate Pkwy. It is already a traffic mess now at peak times and more stores won't help it. The completion of the JTB/295 interchange will help some, but not enough.
March 28, 2008, 4:05 am
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Downtown is never going to be anything without leadership from the mayor's office and some big venture capitalist investing big bucks down there. I hate to pin this on the Republicans, but as conservative as this town is, a lot of those conservaitves could care less about developing downtown. It is just farther away than where they live out in the suburbs and exurbs. We all know John Peyton isn't going to do squat and I doubt anything would happen without some Democratic leadership in the mayor's office, which ain't happening in Duval County.
It isn't going to be too long before more money will have to be spent to fix the intersection of JTB and Gate Pkwy. It is already a traffic mess now at peak times and more stores won't help it. The completion of the JTB/295 interchange will help some, but not enough.
March 28, 2008, 7:55 am
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Somewhat like our version of Orlando's Mall at Millenia, just outdoors. What all will Phase 3 have, other than NM and Nordstorm?
March 28, 2008, 8:16 am
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Except we don't have an IKEA. I was just down there a few weeks ago. I noticed they have a BJ's Brewhouse, which is part of the Markets at SJTC.
March 28, 2008, 9:55 am
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You know we bag on Peyton a lot because he has made obvious mistakes and lies. Downtown however has seen a lot of development and infill during his watch maybe in spite of him. The projects that have stalled or slowed I think have been more systematic of the national housing problems. I think we need more progressive leadership but more important is less crony ism.
The Prime Osborn as the center of a mass transit system would the best springboard I can picture.
March 28, 2008, 10:02 am
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What the core needs is connectivity and density. Both the Peyton and Delaney administrations have flopped big time on these issues. What's the use of "developing horizontally" if all you're connecting is vacant plots of land and surface parking lots. Regardless of the market and how much money is put into something, if it doesn't connect and interact well with its immediate surroundings the chance for vibrancy is diminished.
As for the Markets at Town Center, it should complement the SJTC nicely. If we had to compare this with Orlando's Mall at Millenia, this would rival the strip shopping center across the street thats anchored by the Target and Home Depot Expo.
March 28, 2008, 10:09 am
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It really does rival that "high-class" strip center. The whole SJTC area is like Millenia on crack, as soon as we land IKEA, which will probably be around 2015,
March 28, 2008, 12:43 pm
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Lakerlander is very correct. The real problem with downtown is people. When there is residential density downtown the services and shopping will follow. I do believe though that if the right retail goes into Brooklyn and the Water Street project, the surrounding neighborhoods will utilize them. I know there are people who post here that dislike SJTC, but we really need that kind of retail in Jacksonville. Maybe years in the future with many more downtown residents, we may get a high end department store, but at this time the average Jacksonville resident would not support it.
April 8, 2008, 10:47 pm
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Well, if we're decades slow because we don't have an IKEA, then places like Detroit, Las Vegas, and St Louis are slow too. What is so great about IKEA? Maybe I'm in the minority, but looking at the website, that furniture looks rather ugly to me.
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