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Like Jacksonville's Skyway, the Detroit People Mover is an elevated and automated people mover system serving the downtown core.
Background The Detroit People Mover was originally intended to be the downtown distributor for a proposed $600 million metro-wide light rail transit system for the city in the 1980s. However, after the election of Reagan, most of the money that was set aside for that project was lost, never to be regained again. During the planning stages, it was projected to have a daily ridership of 67,700y. However, during the first year of operation, it only averaged 11,000 riders per day. As Detroit declined, so did the system's ridership numbers. However, a renewed interest in downtown has resulted in higher ridership numbers. Today, the system currently averages around 7,300 riders a day, which is almost double the amount of daily riders using the system in 2000. This spike has benefited the people-mover because most of the downtown's recent public investments and private developments have been constructed within a two block radius of the people mover system. Detroit People Mover Map 
While the Jacksonville Skyway is a dual track corridor, the people-mover operates as a single-track, one-way loop through the central business district. The DPM system has 13 stations, 8 of which were built into pre-existing buildings. Spending a day in Detroit via the People Mover  This trip starts at the GM Renaissance Center. 
The Bricktown and Greektown stations are roughly three blocks apart. The downtown side of these three blocks are lined with restaurants catering to the Greektown Casino. 
This is what it looks like at street level below the Greektown DPM station. This area, known as Greektown is a popular entertainment and dining district anchored by the Greektown Casino, which sits behind the storefronts. The Casino's new hotel can be seen under construction in the background. 
Broadway Street, looking from the DPM north towards the theater district. With the reopening of the Fox Theater, Ford Field and the Tiger's ballpark, this area is now seeing a number of small businesses and lofts going up around these major destinations. 
Riding through the Theater District. The park below has a public parking garage below street level.  Passing over Woodward. Woodward was once downtown's main retail district. It was completely renovated in preparation for the Super Bowl a few years ago. Plans are underway to extend the People Mover north along Woodward to the New Center area (a second, yet smaller downtown type business district a few miles to the north). 
Passing over Fort: This section of downtown appears to be the final frontier in redeveloping the core. This scene is the last thing riders see before the system goes inside of the convention center.  Once through Cobo Hall, the peoplemover is now near the riverfront and the Joe Louis Arena (Home of the Detroit Red Wings). 
Windsor, Canada sits on the other side of the Detroit River. Windsor is directly accessible to Downtown Detroit via the Detroit-Windsor International Tunnel. 
Passing over the Detroit International Riverwalk with Windsor in the background. 
Jefferson Avenue's wide right-of-way separates downtown from the riverfront. The Peoplemover is one of the elements that link the core to the riverfront.  This section of downtown between Michigan and Jefferson still serves as Detroit's financial district.
 Passing over Woodward again: Circus Martius Park, seen in the background, is the heart of downtown. The popular public square was constructed in preparation for the Super Bowl and has become the epicenter of redevelopment activity in the core. 
The peoplemover has many negatives, such as traveling only in one direction, but one of its major positives is that the majority of its stations are located inside of major office buildings, cultural establishments and destinations. 

Back to where the ride began, in the GM Renaissance Center.
The Future? With the revitalization of downtown, over to be doubled in length, by extended the system north along Woodward Avenue. This would allow downtown to be connected with Wayne State University, Detroit Medical Center, the Henry Ford Hospital, the cultural center and the Amtrak Station. If Detroit's commuter rail plans move forward, this would then provide the crucial link between downtown and the airport. Preliminary cost estimates hover between $150 to $200 million and would be paid for by a combination of public and private financing. What does this mean for the Skyway? If we want the Skyway's ridership base to grow to be able to justify its existence, we'll have to develop solutions that feed riders into it. This means that the proposed BRT plans should feed riders into it by only linking with the skyway's end stations and not having stops at every skyway station. Also, as we develop future projects downtown, those should be designed in a fashion where the skyway serves those projects directly. It is working for Detroit's peoplemover and there's nothing to suggest that these ideas would not work for the Skyway. |
February 12, 2008, 10:42 am
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
This Detroit system has 14 stations the Skyway only has 8....
February 12, 2008, 11:32 am
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
What this means is... we need a casino.
February 12, 2008, 11:34 am
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
Dont mean to nit pick your otherwise brilliant description of "Coleman's Train", referring to the late Mayor Coleman A. Young, but its Campus Martius, not Circus Martius. We do have a Grand Circus Park as well.
People in Detroit still view the People Mover as a folly, considering its one way movement and circular "route to nowhere". Theyve been talking about extending it for years, up Woodward, Down south, to the New Center Area, out to 8 Mile Road, but it never seems to happen. Why? Detroit cant get along with its suburban neighbors. When Coleman Young told all the rapists, murders, muggers, and thugs to "Go hit 8 Mile", in his inauguration speech, the 'burbs viewed this as a threat and they still havent forgotten about it.
I hope they do come through one day, with the proposed Detroit-Metro Airport-Ann Arbor commuter link, and the extension of the People Mover. The suburban bus system (SMART) and DDOT buses are woefully inadequate for a metro area of this size.
February 12, 2008, 11:45 am
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
I'm pretty impressed with what I'm hearing about the Detroit-Metro Airport-Ann Arbor commuter rail project. It looks like they'll have a pretty affordable demonstration rail project up and running in about a year.
February 12, 2008, 1:11 pm
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
Wouldn't it be nice if the skyway just exited to the 2nd floor of the landing.
February 12, 2008, 1:15 pm
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
My analysis of the Detroit-Jacksonville DPM systems (with a few comments on Miami)
Stupid Move:
Detroit built one
Jacksonville built one
Miami built one
Smart Move:
Jacksonville built a bi-directional with double track
Stupid Move:
all three were built as horizontal elevators or glorified airport shuttle carts, they were considered at the time the groundwork for PRT systems. This dial a cart system even called for a row of the PRT cars to be lined up at each station just like out front of Winn Dixie or Publix. You would buy a ticket to "F" and a PRT car would roll up, doors open and it would run non-stop to "F". In theory, this would work, but with bi-directional traffic, you would have encountered other carts going to and from "U" "C" and "K" as well. At the destination station, through carts would jumble up in two directions with the row of fresh start carts. All this mixes with the folks bound to and from "E" and "D" and you'd be pretty well F****D!
They NEVER should have been engineered as PRT vehicles and should have stayed with real transit as a model.
Smart Move:
JAX-DET-MIA: Keeping the track above the street, above the lights and the traffic. This is a real attraction for rapid transit, even if it isn't rapid. Thus a piper cub, or a blimp, sailing along at 50 MPH, can stomp the speed of an automobile going 100 MPH. REASON? In the air you can fly from point "F" to "D" without stoplights or corners.
Stupid Move:
DET: Making the whole system ONE-WAY, without feeders, makes no sense from a transit standpoint. Now if the center made a one-way circuit like a clock, with several lines feeding into the system from the various burbs it would function like a giant traffic circle in the sky, not bad. But a traffic circle alone, isn't much of a system.
Smart Move:
JAX: Conversion of the whole shuttle cart system to true Monorail. Good solid idea, with terrible execution. We continued to build the DPM-Cart-way, then retro-fit it with Monorail, long after conversion to single beam monorail??? What does that say about our leaders?
Stupid Move:
Failure to get any of these systems down to ground level for across the platform transfers at major points. Even just 3 or 4 end points with Ground level simple, NO EFFORT, free transfers would be the injection that would save the day.
Smart Move:
JAX - MIA: Both Jax and Miami used their brains in building a system that reaches into the various parts of the city core. Both were seen as distributor's, and replacement of most of the downtown bus routes. Clean, electric and rapid.
Stupid Move:
Jax completely abandoned the purpose, to replace most downtown bus routes. Completely abandoned the concept of park at the edge of town and ride in to the core. Completely abandoned the concept of free transfers to the Skyway. Further, now they have completely abandoned any future for the Skyway, not planning or doing studies for expansion, growth, leasing station space, park and ride etc.
Simple Solutions to ALL:
In a City crying for Downtown life, we choke it with paid meter parking. This should be part and parcel of the JTA or Rail Authority Transit Plan, take down the meter's and wipe out the rule that downtown buildings supply parking for ANYONE. Parking costs are shifted to the JRA (Jacksonville Rail Authority) and THEY build garages with reserved spaces for employees of CSX, MODIS etc... The downtown comes alive, transit thrives and suburban parking garages become instant TOD'S with levels of services, food courts etc... all tied to Skyway's, DPM'S, Streetcars, Commuter Rail, Amtrak, Bus, Shuttle buses, Trolley Buses and PCT's.
Ocklawaha
February 12, 2008, 1:56 pm
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
One you left out:
SMART MOVE: Miami
The system was completed along with a larger heavy rail line feeding suburban riders into it. Its also free to ride. You should see how packed this thing gets for Heat games. Out of these three, the Miami metromover is by far the most successful, primarily because its feed riders from a regional transit source.
Btw, for the BRT planners, the Metrorail system basically parallels Metromover between Downtown and Brickell. However, it does not stop adjacent to every Metromover station to compete with it for riders. Instead it only ties in a two terminal type points.
February 12, 2008, 2:10 pm
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
i really dig downtown detroit, I go there every year for the Detroit Electronic Music Festival and the People mover is great if you are staying downtown. Yes the one way thing is kinda stupid, but the downtown area of Detroit near the ren center etc has always been a fun place for me.
February 26, 2008, 8:34 pm
Re: The Detroit People Mover: The Skyway's Sister System
Stupid Move:
Jax completely abandoned the purpose, to replace most downtown bus routes. Completely abandoned the concept of park at the edge of town and ride in to the core. Completely abandoned the concept of free transfers to the Skyway. Further, now they have completely abandoned any future for the Skyway, not planning or doing studies for expansion, growth, leasing station space, park and ride etc.
Ocklawaha
WOOOOOOOW!!!! Not even an East line??? I just got a new apartment in Atlanta GA...They have a train system up there call the Marta. We could go to any of the 38 stations for just 8 bucks a day. I only made it to 5 stations though. It was so much to see on a SUNDAY!!! JTA needs to get things together.
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