| Roadtrip: Dayton, Ohio |
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| Friday, 08 February 2008 | |
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During the mid 20th century, Dayton was advertised as 'The Cleanest City in America'. Today, it seeks to restore that image. Statistics Dayton Population 2006: 156,771 (City); 1,073,513 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1796) Jacksonville Pop. 2006: 790,689 (City); 1,277,997 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1832) City population 1950: Jacksonville (204,517); Dayton (243,872)
About Downtown Dayton Dayton was once a thriving manufacturing community. As manufacturing jobs were eliminated, the downtown area fell into disuse and disrepair. Unlike most Midwestern cities, Downtown Dayton features very broad and straight streets. The grid was designed this way to enable wagons drawn by teams of oxen to turn around. Unfortunately, there is no bus or rail connection between downtown and the Dayton International Airport. Today downtown Dayton still struggles. While Jacksonville's biggest obstacle is surface parking lots, Dayton's is underutilized buildings. Recent surveys have shown a net job loss of 400 from 2005 to 2006 and an office vacancy rate growing from 14 percent in 2002 to 18 percent in 2006. However, residents believe a full turn around is on the way. Since 1998, more than $585 million has been invested in downtown, which is the home of 929 residential units, 50 restaurants and a working population of 26,000.
Main Street
On the banks of the Miami River, RiverScape MetroPark opened in 2001. Two years later, the Schuster Performing Arts Center celebrated its grand opening. In 2006, CareSource Management Group announced plans to construct a $55 million headquarters building between the park and performing arts center.
Oregon District Dating back to the 1830's, the 40 block Oregon District is one of Dayton's oldest neighborhoods. The district's main commercial strip straddles East Fifth Street. Here, Urban Dayton residents enjoy a collection of 20 bars, restaurants, coffeehouses and a movie theater all within a three block walk of each other. Despite being separated from downtown by elevated railroad tracks, this arts district is only two blocks east of downtown's Main Street and the Dayton Convention Center.
Downtown Core Downtown Dayton's retail sector suffers from many of the same aliments that affect Jacksonville: suburban malls, adverse one-way streets, metered parking, and an image of being a mecca of crime to naive suburbanites. The most recent blow came when independent department store retailer Elder-Beerman shut down their downtown Courthouse Square location in 2002.
Downtown also features a number of electric trolley bus routes that have been in continuous operation since 1888. Nevertheless, advocates believe that the transit authority's recent decision to re-route 80 percent of bus transfers away from the heart of downtown will result in the creation of a more positive image. The Dayton Convention Center can be seen in the background of this image. It is roughly the same size as the Prime Osborn center, so Jacksonville is not alone in being the home of convention centers that are under-sized for the metropolitan area they serve.
Learning From Dayton Dayton has a long way to go and a quick drive through its streets will make you appreciate the progress that has occurred in Downtown Jacksonville in the last few years. Nevertheless, the idea of taking downtown back, one block at a time, has merit. Dayton's Riverscape area pales in comparison to Jacksonville's waterfront, but there has been some success in using Main Street to pull redevelopment back into the heart of downtown from the riverfront. As discussions continue to revolve around ways to bring vibrancy back to the Jacksonville Northbank core, improving the connection between Hemming Plaza and the Riverfront, via Laura Street, may be the solution local planner's seek. |

February 8, 2008, 2:25 pm
Re: Roadtrip: Dayton, Ohio
Nothing says classy city like traffic signals hung across the road on wires. That is the sign of a cheap city.
February 8, 2008, 4:11 pm
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Great tour. I had no idea the Dayton metro was comparable to Jacksonville. I had always pictured it as being much smaller.
I does look like they have a ways to go, however, one plus side is the fact that they have a glut of underutilized properties that would make great fixer-uppers allowing the middle class a much better shot of revitalizing the core. Jax is stuck waiting for the big money to come to town to develop over priced dirt lots. I guess having a "clean slate" could become a positive if the city would push for dense working class housing on vacant properties that addressed the street in a pedestrian friendly way.
February 8, 2008, 4:45 pm
TRANSET EDDUCATION
Fer Dem Docters of Transet Stuffology en Jerksonville... De above picuters of dem Dayton Trolley Buses iss REAL Trolley Buses! Dey ain't got no tater chip truck trollies like we do, in fact JTA kant eben spel Trollie!
Dayton win's by having REAL transit options.
Ocklawaha
February 9, 2008, 9:52 am
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I haven't been in Dayton in years, but when I was working there, the Oregon District was really inspiring to me. It alone warrants a road trip, especially at night. Funny to think I had to go to Ohio to get hooked on Israeli couscous after a dish I had at a restaurant in the district (at Pacchia I think, but the name could be lost to time.)
Still, that district has what a lot of people on this board are talking about: daytime and nighttime business working together along with local residents in their community (and fighting over parking).
Other parallels abound, especially with the Oregon Historic District Society being formed in 1973 and Riverside Avondale Preservation in 1974.
Check them out for some potential inspiration at http://www.oregondistrict.org or maybe even some joint discussions to see what has and hasn't worked for them that we could use here in Jax.
February 11, 2008, 12:59 pm
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They even hang their buses from similar wires
February 11, 2008, 1:49 pm
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I like it - perhaps that's how they afford things like courthouses, trolley bus systems, and other capital projects.
Remember, they don't have to deal with hurricanes, which is one of the main reasons that we use poles here.
February 11, 2008, 8:34 pm
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I like it - perhaps that's how they afford things like courthouses, trolley bus systems, and other capital projects.
Remember, they don't have to deal with hurricanes, which is one of the main reasons that we use poles here.
February 11, 2008, 9:05 pm
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FDOT requires all new traffic signals to be mounted on mast arms. The ones on wires are old.
February 15, 2008, 10:15 pm
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Mmmmmkay, most of the wires you see in these pictures are the overhead catenaries for Dayton's electric trolleys (I called them buses in an earlier comment, my bad). So, with all that going on, why not hang the traffic signals in a similar way?
February 20, 2008, 9:33 pm
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I lived in Dayton, Ohio for 11 years, after growing up in Chicago. Dayton is a dull,dreary little city. I could not wait to leave.
After living in Jax for 5 years, I can not compare the two places. The sun is hardly ever out in Ohio, summer lasts about 5 minutes.
They do not have hurricanes, but they do have tornados that can come along with barely any warning.
OK, I give in to the Oregon district. It is nice enough to feel like you are getting away... but when I went to the district I saw more head shops and dirty looking tatoo parlors than restaurants.
March 31, 2008, 9:17 pm
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Poor Dayton; used to be bigger (in the 50's) than Miami, Tampa, or Jacksonville. They're looking to bounce back though; but they have a long way to go before they catch up with Cleveland and Cincinnati.
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