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Find out why JTA's plans for downtown could mean the end of Art Walk, as we know it today.

Potential Downtown Bus Rapid Transit plans include removing parallel parking spaces from Adams Street and replacing them with swift moving city buses. Other streets up for consideration include Forsyth, Bay and Philip Randolph Blvd. 
It's Metro Jacksonville's belief outdoor cafes and socialization go with buses like dogs with Michael Vick. Don't believe the hype? Look what's currently happening in Berkeley, CA. New buses leave Berkeley vendors in dust
Rapid line goes too fast down Telegraph Avenue, critics say By Doug Oakley, MEDIANEWS STAFF Inside Bay Area
Article Last Updated:08/31/2007 11:02:29 AM PDT BERKELEY — Philip Rowntree says every time AC Transit's new express bus speeds by his T-shirt stand on Telegraph Avenue, he gets covered with dust and filth kicked up by the vehicle's exhaust.
And, Rowntree also notes, he and other street vendors fear the new speeding buses are going to slam into someone on the crowded four-block stretch from Dwight Way to Bancroft Way.
AC Transit added an express 1R bus line that runs from San Leandro to University of California, Berkeley, and back. It has fewer stops and generally goes faster than the one line that runs the same route.
"It's disgusting," Rowntree said Wednesday. "Something happened about three or four months ago, and it's not the pollution they are kicking out but the air from the exhaust blows all this filth off the street onto me."
Russell Chatman, who sells jewelry next to Rowntree, said the buses dirty him too and go way too fast.
"I realize it's a rapid transit because the drivers have their deadlines to beat, but for them to come as fast as they do, it's only a matter of time before someone gets hurt," Chatman said.
Berkeley City Council member Kriss Worthington said he has received complaints from Telegraph Avenue merchants about the speeding and dust. He's contacted AC Transit, but hasn't heard back.
"I don't know how flexible they are going to be," Worthington said. "I talked to one of their staff people, and she said she would bring it up to the manager. If you're in an area where people are sitting all day and there are pedestrians, you want to minimize what's blowing on them."
Rowntree said he, too, contacted AC Transit, but got a rude response.
"I left messages and finally I got someone and they told me they needed 10 days to look into it," Rowntree said. "I waited about three weeks and called back and they put me on hold for 10 minutes and came back on the line and said my complaint was 'noted.' They don't have an answer."
Whatever complaints Worthington and Rowntree made apparently have not traveled far.
"This is the first I've heard of anything like this," AC Transit Deputy General Manager Jim Gleich said. "What he might also have a concern about is speeding. The 1R is rapid and the way it works, it is not driven like a regular bus service. Drivers are trained and encouraged to operate within the law as fast as they can, but they shouldn't be exceeding speed limits."
Gleich said he is aware the newer buses have exhaust that comes out the side, "so (Rowntree is) right about that. If they are saying the exhaust is blowing the dust, I find that hard to appreciate, I guess. It's just a tailpipe."
Gleich said the rapid bus has a system that allows it to communicate with traffic signals to keep lights green 10 seconds longer if the signal is about to change. A similar line added to San Pablo Avenue about four years ago is seeing a 17 percent ridership increase.
Anna Field, who has been selling jewelry on the street for 30 years, said she would like to see the buses re-routed because of the dirt they kick up and the danger they pose.
"There are crazy people who wander around in the street here," Field said. "And the buses just roar through here. We get the hot air, gas and everything else. It's kind of dangerous to have these buses tooling through here like this."
Doris Harrington, another vendor, agreed.
"As fast as these guys go, they're going to hit a student pretty soon," Harrington said. 
To learn the details of JTA's plans for downtown and the negative impacts in store for Adams, Bay and Forsyth Streets, visit the links below, and to voice your opinion to the JTA, click the link at the bottom: DVI Opposes Downtown BRT Plan: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/498/116/ BRT: Killing Downtown, The Final Chapter: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/445/116/ Poltergeist IV: They're Back! JTA and BRT: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/413/116/ Downtown BRT: 10 Questions for JTA: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/405/116/ BRT & Transit Malls: Do they create vibrant cities? http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/388/116/ Coming to a downtown street near you: BRT Photo Tour: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/349/116/ MetroJacksonville crashes Downtown BRT Party: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/346/116/ Bus Rapid Transit to Destroy Downtown: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/329/116/ Tell JTA What You Think : Contact JTA Here |
September 5, 2007, 5:11 pm
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It's always the same old story. The City comes out in defense of their BRT plan saying, "we're just giving the people what they want". WHAT PEOPLE!? Who in the hell are they talking to that is so jazzed about this ridiculous, expensive and unnecessary program?! Let them show themselves, stand and be counted with City Hall. It's insane. The entire Core has been up in arms about this issue since it was announced and still they want to move forward. This is no longer a political faux pas. The light is on but no one is home evidently. It makes me sick.
September 5, 2007, 5:20 pm
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I agree - this is just plain nuts - make sure you all contact JTA right above the comments to voice your displeasure.
September 5, 2007, 9:22 pm
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Dear JTA:
Why did you build the Skyway? Why is the Rosa Parks the only Transit Center we have since the Skyway has at least 2 other ends to it? What is the Rosa Parks for and why did you build it? Why does anyone think you built that for cross-platform transfers? Why did we have to rebuild the Skyway? Who payed for the Monorail conversion when we could have gone with a sky-train of our own? Couldn't the Sky-train have been expanded at ground level into the suburbs? Why did this not come up? Who silenced Rail? Why was the Monorail pushed on us? Wasn't the whole thing going to be free? I seem to remember something about it being a "Free Gift, a Federal Demonstration Project," isn't that what you told the press? There was a well published warning that you were up to no good, funny how that voice was silenced. Could it be that we were sold a bill of goods?
Further, Why didn't we build the heritage trolley system in 1981 and become the first city to ever do that? Couldn't we have used a Heritage Trolley as the corner stone of Light Rail? We could have built 30 miles of "High Priced-High Speed" light rail for the cost of that Skyway, but you had a better idea, why? I want to know who in the JTA or City administration gets their shorts in a bunch every time that four letter "RAIL" word is mentioned? Why was the "Trolley" blown off because you told the City it would "HAVE" to compete with automobile traffic? 30 miles JTA, 30, and yes, that IS based on the cost of the San Diego Trolley, 15 miles built at about the same time for half our Skyway's cost. Did you know about that JTA? Did you study San Diego? Are all of your "Expensive Light-Rail" studies limited to Trolleys on elevated railroads, or subways? Do you really think the public in Jacksonville or anywhere else would prefer a bus to a LRV? What about a Heritage Trolley? Would anyone out there prefer to ride a bus to a historic streetcar? Really? I just want to know where these ideas come from? Do you have a "think tank"? Why in the World would anyone call it a "Think" tank? Does anyone at JTA know what a Heritage Trolley is?
Really, isn't it time for some explaining, before we jump into another Billion dollar fiasco?
Ocklawaha
September 5, 2007, 11:39 pm
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Welcome to Jacksonville.
September 6, 2007, 2:18 am
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i wrote them and asked to see their alternative comparison study. i kinda doubt i'll get much of a response.
September 6, 2007, 8:14 am
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Art Walk was great last night. Did anyone else go? It is always nice to see do many people out enjoying Downtown on a Wednesday night.
September 6, 2007, 8:33 am
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Of course... Got a few pics, I'll post them.
September 6, 2007, 8:45 am
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no, i had to work 7 pm-7 am. that's also why i made a bunch of posts around 4 am.
September 6, 2007, 9:57 am
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were there more pets this month?
September 6, 2007, 10:28 am
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I for one, like buses! I got into this business through the good agency of Trailways...back in the day! Just imagine, a parade of buses AND the Art Walk together.
"Transportopia"
Bus, artwork, bus, music, bus, wheeze, bus, artwork, bus, cough, bus, ahem, bus, gag, bus, choke, bus, bus, bus, bus, bus, bus...
"Make mine a Sweet Tea dusted with carbon please..."
HEAVEN!
Ocklawaha
September 6, 2007, 10:42 am
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Has JTA joined google trasit? I know little about Google trasit can anybody explain it?
September 6, 2007, 5:58 pm
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Just a few from Art Walk.
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