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The Ronco Group will be the lastest company to locate to the neighborhood formerly known as LaVilla.
Current Jaguar Ugly building on the corner of Adams and Jefferson Streets.
The Ronco project will incorporate the existing structure into a much larger one story facility.
The floor plan reveals that there will be no street retail, however the office building's main entrance will face the corner of Adams & Jefferson. Thoughts, questions or comments? |
July 26, 2007, 11:39 am
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Isn't Ronco the infomercial guy?
July 26, 2007, 12:17 pm
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http://www.roncogroup.com/regionaloffices.htm
They make and imprint toilet paper??! Great job. Hopefully it won't smell like a paper plant.
July 26, 2007, 12:33 pm
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Southside Office Park!
July 26, 2007, 1:01 pm
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It could be worse. At least it reuses an existing structure and adds to the workforce downtown.
July 26, 2007, 1:13 pm
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From a design standpoint (and this is where the DRC should come into play), the structure's facade needs to be broken up more. This could be as simply as extending the windows along Adams and Jefferson down to the floor slab, which at least would help give the impression of storefront openings.
July 26, 2007, 4:33 pm
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I looked at this rendering and then threw up a little bit in my mouth. Now I have to go and brush my teeth. MetroJax should have a warning label at the top of posts like this. It disgusts me what gets passed through the building department on a daily basis. Sh*t like this makes me want to move.
July 26, 2007, 6:20 pm
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I suppose they could leave the existing building there unoccupied for years....surely that would be better, right?
July 26, 2007, 6:37 pm
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Or the DRC could suggest ways to improve the facade, before granting final design approval. After all, isn't that one of the reasons they are there? Sooner or later we should have a little pride in our community and be able to stop accepting everybody's sloppy seconds.
July 26, 2007, 8:56 pm
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Lackluster design for sure. However, it's better than a surface parking lot. I guess that's one way to look at it.
July 26, 2007, 9:16 pm
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I don't think people should blame Ronco for the design. Ronco's relocation to the area, at least adds a little life to the corner between the hours of 8 and 5. However, is it a little too much to ask of our Design Review Committee to demand a little more, in terms of architectural design? How about the Architect?
July 27, 2007, 1:17 am
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It's not that it's a totally horrible design, it's just that it continues the trend in that area to design everything to look like an office park....
I personally don't think that is a good trend for a downtown area....
July 27, 2007, 8:45 am
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But look at that sweet stone texture map on the entry....
July 27, 2007, 8:50 am
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of course its a shitty design...and shitty colored. its a toilet paper imprinter!
July 27, 2007, 8:51 am
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...... the man makes a good point.
July 30, 2007, 8:34 am
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So according to Hightowerlover, a building should look like it's function? A toilet paper imprinter's facilities should look like "sh*t"? Because of course, that is what it's used for? I don't mean to jump onto Hightowerlover, he has great posts and I respect everyone's opinions here, but it's more than a little short sighted and narrow minded to accept something of this low a caliber just because the company stamps toilet paper. If you follow that line of thinking then a garbage man's home should look like a pile of trash; a school teacher's home should look like a giant stapler (that actually might be kind of cool); a politicians home should look like a great big pile of steaming cow dung (they're all full of it...). And where does it stop? When will architects take responsibility for their designs and really start to educate their clients? There seems to be an entire generation of clients, developers, businessmen in general, that honestly think a project like this is a successful design solution. And, not because of it's architectural significance or even the paired down simplicity of the facade...BUT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP AND THEY CAN BUILD IT IN 12 DAYS. UGH! It's early, I haven't had my coffee. I need an aspirin.
July 30, 2007, 8:50 am
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archiphreak, I know how you feel. Sooner of later we (architects), as a whole, have to take more responsibility for our designs and their affect on our community.
July 30, 2007, 9:00 am
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I think he was just cracking a joke guys. At least that's the way I understood his comment.
But you're both right. The architecture is less than desireable. However, what else could be done with what I'm sure is a VERY limited budget? Many have said in the past that the "little guys" are the ones that will make this city great but the problem is that the little guys don't have much money to work with. So do we tell them no and send them to some other part of town? Then sit back and patiently wait to land the glorious "Big fish"?
I don't think that this development is right for LaVilla at all, but it will produce some activity in an areas that sorely needs it. Furthermore, this is a simple renovation that can be razed for something better without remorse a few years from now when things are really looking up.
July 30, 2007, 9:06 am
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well it was a joke... but then again...
i can appreciate it being taken seriously. granted i dont know how fancy of a building a toilet paper imprinter will really be willing to create. i mean where do we really draw the line, you can't force a company to make too many changes to their design just because they took a chance on locating downtown. im sure they could have stamped TP in a number of places but they chose downtown. don't run them off.
and yes there was some sarcasm in that post....
July 30, 2007, 9:25 am
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There's no reason we can't have Ronco in a decently looking building and no one has to blow the budget to do so. At this point, there's too much money and time in this deal for someone to walk over a Design Review Committee suggesting that the facade be improved before granting them their final approval. If the DRC can't do that, then what's the point of having a DRC?
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