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Monday, 05 March 2007

The Florida East Coast Railway is a locally based company that operates 351 miles of mainline track between Jacksonville and Miami.  While we've discussed the potential of using the city's S-Line right-of-way for urban commuter rail, FEC's rail line through the Southside is a critical segment to the overall plan as well. 

This photo tour is intended to visually make an argument for JTA moving forward with a commuter rail feasibility study before it's to late.

 

THE VEHICLE: THE DIESEL MULTIPLE UNIT RAILCAR 

http://www.coloradorailcar.com/dmu-brochure-2005.pdf

DMU = Diesel Multiple Unit: A self-propelled diesel railcar, which can be run in multiple combinations of unpowered coaches and powered cars.

General characteristics: 

Seating capacity: 218

Maximum operating speed: 90 mph

Minimum station spacing: 0.5 to 2 miles

Frequency of service: every 30 minutes (peak hours), 1 to 2 hours (off-peak hours)

75% less noise than a locomotive

72% less pollution than a locomotive

 

THE FEC RAIL CORRIDOR PHOTO TOUR

Potential Route Map

This photo tour covers the FEC rail corridor from Downtown Jacksonville to St. Augustine's Historic District.  JTA's planned southern BRT corridor is highlighted in "purple" to show it's relation to FEC's existing railroad right-of-way.  The "green" route represents the city owned S-Line, which was covered in a previous Metro Jacksonville photo tour

click to see S-Line tours:

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/334/79/

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/view/340/79/

 

1. Prime Osborn

The FEC line conveniently ties in with the city owned S-Line right-of-way at the Prime Osborn, which is planned to be converted back into a transit hub.  Here, regional rail riders could transfer to take the skyway, trolleys, Amtrak, and regular JTA buses to access various areas of town.  With this set up, regional rail feeds the skyway, rather than competing against it.

 

2. Atlantic Blvd (San Marco Square)

One major positive about FEC's tracks, is the fact that they're already double-tracked from the Prime Osborn to just south of the Avenues Mall.  Currently, JTA plans to purchase right-of-way parallel to these tracks for the southern BRT route.

 



While difficult to see in the background, San Marco Square is only about 3 blocks from this crossing, while the proposed Publix development is only one, making it the perfect spot for a potential rail transit station.  Current BRT plans have no stops in this area, meaning the buses will cross through, but riders won't be able to get off until they reach Emerson Street.

 

3. Walmart (Emerson at Phillips Highway)

While it may be difficult to see, the railroad tracks lie on the other side of the new Walmart parking lot, along Phillip's Highway, just south of Emerson Street.

 

4. Phillips Highway at University Blvd.

The southern BRT route running parallel will use mix in with regular vehicular traffic on portions of Phillips Highway, meaning it will still be subject to regular traffic conditions.  One the other hand, the rail line is already grade separated from most major highways in the Southside.

 

In certain areas, the busways will be constructed skyway style to avoid regular gridlock.  While leaders tout BRT's flexibility, that argument quickly loses steam when bus system construction estimates start to exceed the cost of light rail.

 


5. JTA Park n Ride (Phillips at JTB)

JTA already owns this park n ride facility, which could easily serve as a park n ride rail stop with express bus routes to serve the office buildings and hotels in the Southpoint area.

 

6. Phillips at Baymeadows

FEC's tracks run adjacent to multiple commercial developments at this major intersection.  A stop in this area could be designed to allow direct access to Lowes, BJ's Wholesale Club, Winn-Dixie, and this new retail center in the old GM Warehouse Building.  By comparison, the southern BRT route will terminate about a mile to the east of this intersection, at the I-95 off-ramp at Baymeadows Road.

 



In this photo, Baymeadows Road cross over the tracks.  The reason commuter rail would cost hundreds of millions less than busways, is the fact that the infrastructure is already in place.

 

7. The Avenues

A stop in this area would be a must.  Commuter rail would put transit riders within short walking distance of the Avenues Mall, as well as Avenues Walk.  BRT, on the other hand, is not planned to reach or serve this area.

 

7a. Avenues Walk

Avenues Walk is a major mixed use development proposed across the street from the Avenues Mall and directly adjacent to the FEC rail corridor.  When complete, the 160 acre project will include 50,000sf of class A office space, 600,000sf of retail and over 1,000 condos, apartments and townhomes centered around a 22 acre lake.  This development serves as the perfect example of what type of infill projects can come on line, adjacent to rail.  The BRT system, as currently planned, will not go south of Baymeadows, meaning this area will not be served by rapid mass transit.

 

8. Flagler Center

Flagler Center is a 1,022 acre mixed use project being developed by Flagler Development, the real estate operation of Florida East Coast Industries (also the parent company for FEC rail).  It's currently the home of Baptist Medical, Citicorp, Nuvell, and Baker Distribution and entitled for over 2.7 million sf of office, industrial and retail space.  The potential of this business park would increase dramatically if it were served by commuter rail.  Undeveloped plots of land, such as the piece shown in this photograph, would also have potential for high density residential TOD use. 

 

ST. JOHNS COUNTY

By implementing commuter rail, not only will it cost hundreds of millions less, stimulate economic development, and serve as a means of transit not integrated with regular vehicular congestion, it is also simple to expand this type of system to neighboring counties.  Furthermore, by bringing neighboring counties into the mix, it decreases the overall costs for all public entities involved and further solidifies the connection between Jacksonville and it's suburban neighbors.

 

9. US Hwy 1 at CR 210 (Nocatee)

 

10. US Hwy 1 at World Golf Drive (Palencia)

Northern St. Johns County is in the midst of a building boom that road expansion alone will not be able to handle future gridlock in this corridor.  Between Nocatee, Bartram Park, Twin Creeks, and Durbin (only 4 of several major planned developments), they'll combine for nearly 30,000 housing units and millions of square feet of retail, industrial, and office space. 

Commuter rail would offer these future residents and St. Johns County an enhancement in their quality of life by giving residents an alternative choice of transit and stimulating quality transit oriented economic development.

 

11. Historic St. Augustine

One advantage of potential commuter rail is that our existing rail lines fall within walking distance of several local attractions, which is an important factor in attracting ridership.  In this case, a potential end point could be the St. Augustine Historic District.  This would add a new segment of the market to mass transit.... the tourist.  Furthermore, it would introduce the possibility of transit oriented development on a large track of FEC owned land, just to the west of US Hwy 1 and north of King Street.

 

To learn more about commuter rail and why Jacksonville should take a serious look at it, visit Metro Jacksonville's BRT vs. Commuter Rail study:

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/content/blogcategory/18/58/

 

 
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>> 14 Comments
The E
March 5, 2007, 8:44 am
Rail line useful

This is the best plan I've seen for a mass transit commuter line in Jacksonville.  It is a great start for the city and covers some of the most densely populated, most shopped, and most touristed parts of Jacksonville.  Great plan.  Now all we need is one to go the beach and the airport and this train will be hoppin'.
Jason
March 5, 2007, 10:11 am


What a great tour.   Seeing point by point photos like this really go a long way to show all that lies along these existing rail line.

Can't wait to see the westside tour...
DaveP
March 5, 2007, 10:48 am


This seems to make too much sense not to use.  The raised BRT sections will cost the city a fortune and disrupt traffic for years druing construction.  Commuter rail would be easy to empliment and extremely cost effective.  This is a great portrayal of the superiority of a commuter rail system.
Leslie A. Goller
March 5, 2007, 11:18 am
Commuter Rail

This is a terrific, practical and doable idea.  I totally support it!
Fred
March 5, 2007, 12:49 pm
The Airport

The plan would provide service to the airport, although riders would have to transfer onto a bus or maybe even another light rail type option like the one seen connecting Newark, NJ's airport with the New Jersey Transit and Amtrak lines.  In the airport's current plan for 2025, some sort of light rail is being used to get passengers to/from the parking lots.  Maybe this could be extended to reach the train station near I-95 if commtuer rail ever gets going.
J
March 5, 2007, 1:09 pm
St. Johns River

What about going over the St. John's River?  Would the train go over the existing Rail Draw Bridge?  Or will riders need to transfer to the Skyway?
thelakelander
March 5, 2007, 1:19 pm
River crossing

If a deal could be worked out with FEC, commuter rail would use the existing rail drawbridge, to connect with JTA's planned Prime Osborn transportation center and other rail lines that would connect the Westside, Orange Park, the Northside and perhaps Amelia Island with downtown.  Those looking to get downtown would transfer to the skyway or free trolleys at the Prime Osborn.
Tyler
March 5, 2007, 5:18 pm


What about the St. Augustine airport on U.S. 1?  Do you think there would be enough demand to put a stop there?  It is a pretty small airport.

I love your commuter rail proposals!  It just makes sense.  I don't know why the city doesn't think of these things....  Keep up the good work!
thelakelander
March 5, 2007, 5:26 pm
St. Augustine Airport

Sure, in fact its shown on the second picture.  The airport may be small, but it's the home of one of the region's largest employers and there are a few large scale mixed-used developments proposed in the corridor.  It would definately make for a good park n ride spot.
J
March 6, 2007, 10:56 am


Looks good to me.
RG
March 7, 2007, 3:20 pm
Great Plan!

Good work, as always, Lake.   I am praying that our City officials will see the light, drop most parts of BRT and immediately begin work on commuter rail as you propose.  This is truly visionary.  BRT is truly stupid and WILL fail.
pwhitford
March 8, 2007, 6:36 pm


What an Epiphany!!  This is brilliant!  The simplicity!  The convenience!  The possibilities are not only endless, but endlessly inspiring.  How can this be ignored by any right thinking person?  Not that this is a panacea for all the ills, great and small, that plague Jacksonville as it struggles to establish itself, but what a vital boost to its outdated and crippled infrastructure.  
Charles Hutcherson
March 10, 2007, 9:28 pm
Candidate for City Council District 6

I have been touting this plan for quite a while... It's part of my campaign platform for City Council District 6. I actually worked on the BRT study with a consulting firm here in Jax and am NOT in support of the North/South leg of the system. I would only consider a BRT line from the Rail to the beach in order to pick-up beach residents to the Commuter Rail line.
As the DRI's develop between Bayard and St. Augustine, local bus feeders will pick-up residents in these new areas and drop off to TOD's on the Commuter Rail Line, I-95 and US-1 will not be able to handle this future Growth.
This Commuter Rail is vitally important to the future of how Jacksonville will grow. Grid-lock? or a City with a REAL Furture?
(My Background: Engineering/Planning for 22 years)
Bob Mann
March 15, 2007, 8:48 pm
Transportation Consultantīs Comments

FANTASTIC! Itīs about time, IF I ever get out of Colombia (Today I got good news and bad news. The good? "The Inspector General of the Railways wantīs to see you!" The bad? Our Ferrocarril de Antioquia restoration project just got shot in the butt from Bogota... more meetings, more foot dragging, and the beat goes on and on) and WE complain about JACKSONVILLE!

Someone mentioned the Beaches, well this might be a stretch at this point in the game BUT, if you walk the track south through San Marco, you will pass two interesting points (I confess seeing them from the window of an FEC passenger train) ONE is the old South Jacksonville Station site and the other is a sharp spur that turns east (or did a few years back) into some industrial yard and gate and ends butted up aginst an elevated section of I-95. THIS little spur is part of the old railroad "wye" and the Start of what was once a line along Beach Blvd, all the way to Jacksonville Beach, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach and Mayport! IF WEīRE TALKING MILLIONS, how hard would it be to put it back?

Also, check out the proposed on again-off again Florida DOT plan to restore Amtrak to the Florida East Coast. St. Augustine and St. Johns County ALREADY HA VE a plan with design in hand for a multi-modal / over US 1 Station at their airport!  Plus at last check the old (very tropical modern circa 1960) FEC station was still standing just to the west of Where the highways split as you enter St. Augustine proper. The railroad removed the track by the station and relaid it behind itīs old MILLER SHOPS in St. Augustine in order to use the Miller property fronting on US 1 as development land. But with only a hundred yard move the cool Station from the past COULD be put back into use. You might also note a slight lump in US 1,  as you approach the FEC tripple office buildings (Sold to Flagler College) . Thatīs because the old mainline went over the road and into a classic St. Augustine Station in that little park just North of the Offices. THAT would make a nice, ez walking distance setting for a stub terminal for Commuter Rail, right at the Collegeīs new doorstep... But then thereīs St. Johns Mall, Palm Coast, Bunnell, Oh what the heck, bring back the "Havanna Special", "Flamingo", "Dixie Flyer", "H.M. Flagler" and all the rest al lthe way to Miami!

Ocklawaha
Frustrated in a deserted, Andean Cloud Forest, railroad yard office!
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