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Heavy Metrorail: 53 miles total
Example of Heavy Rail: Chicago's 'L'
Honolulu - 20 miles
New York 2nd Ave subway and #7 extension - 3 miles
San Francisco Warm Springs/Berryessa extension - 16 miles
Washington Silver line phase 1 - 12 miles
Light Rail: 124 miles total
Example of Light Rail: Denver's RTD
Dallas Orange line - 10 miles
Denver West & 225 lines - 14 miles
Houston East End, Southeast, and North lines - 14 miles
Los Angeles Expo, Gold, and Crenshaw lines - 29 miles
Minneapolis Central corridor - 11 miles
Phoenix Mesa extension - 3 miles
Portland Orange line - 7 miles
Sacramento Green line and Cosumnes extensions - 5 miles
Salt Lake City Airport & Draper lines - 8 miles
San Francisco Central subway - 2 miles
Seattle University & Northgate links - 7 miles
Commuter Rail: 240 miles total
Example of Commuter Rail: South Florida's Tri-Rail
Boston Wachusett extension - 5 miles
Denver East & Gold lines, and NW phase 1 - 40 miles
New Jersey Lackawanna cutoff - 7 miles
New York LIRR east access - 4 miles
Orlando Sunrail phase 1 - 31 miles
Providence Wickford extension - 20 miles
Salt Lake City Front Runner south - 44 miles
San Francisco eBART & SMART - 80 miles
Seattle Lakewood line - 8 miles
Streetcar: 17 miles total
Example of a Streetcar: New Orleans Canal Street Streetcar
Atlanta - 1.4 miles
Cincinnati - 2 miles
New Orleans Union Terminal line - 1.5 miles
Salt Lake City - 2.7 miles
Seattle 1st Hill - 2.5 miles
Tucson - 3.9 miles
Washington H St & Anacostia lines - 3 miles
List courtesy of Cirrus at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=198794
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JeffreyS
December 19, 2012, 08:16:22 AMAre we seriously in line behind Tucson. One day this city is going to force me to move to Chicago.
fsujax
December 19, 2012, 08:24:38 AMwe are in line behind everyone when it comes to transit. No one here champions rail projects. With all the issues in R/A area you would think some of those council people would at least be asking for a streetcar.
Ocklawaha
December 19, 2012, 08:39:42 AMThey would be if they knew what it was and what it can do for our city, unfortunately it's a case of Jacksonville ignorance. I am being more convinced by the day that Jacksonville really is a diamond that wants to remain coal, there is just no excuse for not at least trying to move forward.
cline
December 19, 2012, 08:50:08 AMDont' we have a transit agency? It would make sense to me that the championing of transit projects would start with them.
fsujax
December 19, 2012, 08:52:39 AMthey tried. Streetcar study completed in 2008. went no where, because groups like the DVI, JEDC wouldnt support it.
cline
December 19, 2012, 09:02:29 AMWell when the Feds were printing/giving away money via TIGER grants our "transit agency" put forth a application for an overpass when most other cities were putting together applications for transit projects. Kinda leads one to believe that JTA prefers to champion road projects.
Ocklawaha
December 19, 2012, 09:06:24 AMHas JTA ever done a 'dog and pony show' such as the hard sell efforts for the massive BRT idea?
It's funny that in the decade between 1900 and 1910, Jacksonville was the second fastest growing city in the USA and actually the fastest for several of those years. Our population jumped from 28,000 to 58,000 and the only city doing better then us was Los Angeles which climbed from 102,000 to 319,000 , we fully expected to top the 200,000 mark by 1920 with a shot at edging out Los Angeles by the 30's or 40's.
Both cities were built on extensive railroad networks, Los Angeles ultimately had both the Los angles Railway @ over 600 miles and the Pacific Electric Railway @ 1,150 miles. Jacksonville had the Jacksonville Traction System which had climbed to 65 miles when the city decided buses would be better in 1932, Los Angeles didn't make that same decision until 1963 and then just 27 years later reversed itself. Using that 'follow them' mentality we might start to see movement by 2020.
fsujax
December 19, 2012, 09:12:25 AMwell, maybe that will change now Cline! :-)
stephendare
December 19, 2012, 10:03:18 AMThis is a failing on JTAs part.
No real leadership in the community.
Neither DVI nor JEDC are transit groups or authorities. No one needs their opinion on the subject really.
Go to the people, make your case, ally with friendly media sources like metro jacksonville and get it done.
Dont expect other groups to do the job for you.
fsujax
December 19, 2012, 10:09:46 AMwell, at least the selected corridors for streetcar made it into the Mobility Plan, so it wasn't all a failure. Hopefully, once the money starts to flow in a line will be constructed.
Ocklawaha
December 19, 2012, 11:17:57 AMPerhaps it is time to plan a public meeting for the purpose of forming at 501c3 'Streetcar Jacksonville' group, where's Mr. Wickersham, Esquire, when we need him? Riverside Gator? Jax-by-Default? Anyone?
We'll need an attorney who will donate the work on incorporation and it is helpful (dealing with the IRS) to have a local CPA join the group. Planners, engineers and supporters line up on the right!
spuwho
December 19, 2012, 12:25:17 PMhttp://simplenonprofit.com/
cline
December 19, 2012, 12:52:30 PMLike I mentioned before, JTA had an opportunity to get some free dough from the Feds for Streetcar and failed.
Ocklawaha
December 19, 2012, 07:06:10 PMThis system is featured in todays edition of Progressive Railroading magazine. IMAGINE JACKSONVILLE!
RETHINK JACKSONVILLE!