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Exposing Hogans Creek

Metro Jacksonville paddles up another underutilized and forgotten urban core waterway: Hogans Creek.

Published October 5, 2010 in Neighborhoods      204 Comments    Open printer friendly version of this article Print Article


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Hogans Creek


This historic aerial highlights the location of Hogans Creek between downtown (top of image) and East Jacksonville, now known as the Sports District (bottom of image) in 1941.

Hogans Creek forms downtown's north and east borders as it stretches from the St. Johns River to the Shands Jacksonville medical center.  Once known as Jacksonville's "Grand canale," the creek is named after John and David Hogans.  In 1823, the Spanish government validated John Hogan's claim to the Springfield area, which was then known as "Hogans' Donation."  The 225-acre Spanish land grant to Daniel Hogans makes up the neighborhoods of Fairfield and East Jacksonville.

The creek also served as the eastern border of the ancient Timucua city, Ossachite.  Ossachite thrived about 1,000 years ago, but survived until about 300 years ago.


Image at http://www.floridastateparks.org/history/img/park/FAD-rc05354.jpg
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The Timucua's grand city was bordered by two clear streams.  These rivulets are certainly not clear today, and they're now known as Hogans Creek and McCoy's Creek.  Hogan's Creek splits downtown Jax from Springfield & the Eastside, while McCoy's Creek flows west to east at the southern edge of LaVilla, next to the Prime Osborn Convention Center.  Hundreds of years ago, high-ranking Timucua built their homes along the south bank of Hogans Creek and the north bank of McCoy's Creek.

Ossachite must have been as busy as a beehive.  Living in the city were many craftsmen.  These included potters, painters, wood carvers, shell workers, and copper artisans.  They traded with other Indians who lived as far away as the Great Lakes.  

Ossachite also contained numerous storehouses, as well as dwellings for religious workers and a large burial mound.  Topped with buildings, the mound was accessed by an earthen ramp 200 yards long.  The city's most prominent structure was the council house, used for community meetings.  So large that it was constructed with whole tree trunks, the oval-shaped structure could seat hundreds.
Source: http://www.jaxhistory.com/Jacksonville Story/Timucua, Ossachite.htm



Great Fire of 1901

109 years ago, this long forgotten creek played an important role during the city's greatest disaster.

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Jacksonville's Great Fire of 1901 was the largest metropolitan fire in the American South. The fire began on May 3, 1901 with a spark from a cook stove at lunchtime which ignited piles of Spanish moss drying for a mattress factory. Located at Davis and Beaver streets, the factory fire spread to most of the downtown area. By 8:30 when the fire was brought under control, 2,368 buildings were destroyed, 10,000 people were homeless and seven residents were dead. The city spent the next decade rebuilding its downtown.
http://ibistro.dos.state.fl.us/uhtbin/cgisirsi/lLEijVb0Rm/STA-FLA/190670005/9


Residents heading towards Hogans Creek as the City of Jacksonville burns in 1901.

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In the aftermath of this tragedy, there were a few points of consolation.  Miraculously, only seven people died.  The fire was slowed on the north and east by the marshy area along Hogans Creek, thus sparing the surrounding suburbs of East Jacksonville, Fairfield, Oakland, and Springfield.
Source: Jacksonville's Architectural Heritage, page 27-28.


Jacksonville Shipyards

Before the Jacksonville Shipyards expanded along the waterfront, the mouth of Hogans Creek was the location of the Merchants & Miners Transportation Company's terminal and steamship line.

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Known as the "Queen of Sea", the Merchants and Miners Transportation Company Steamship Line operated one of the finest fleets of passenger steamers on the Atlantic Coast and ranked foremost as one of America's top tourist routes. It was said to be the only line plying between Baltimore, Savannah and Jacksonville.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2009-oct-the-steamships-of-jacksonville





This historic aerial illustrates the former working waterfront at the mouth of Hogans Creek.  The Merchants and Miners Transportation Company's terminal (warehouses with dark roofs) is directly west (left) of the mouth.  The Merrill-Stevens Drydock & Repair Company's shipyards were located immediately west of the Merchants and Miners Transportation Company.  The St. Johns River Shipbuilding Company sat on the east side of the mouth of Hogans Creek. This short lived shipyard employed 20,000 Jacksonville citizens in 1944, who produced Liberty ships bound for Europe and the Pacific.

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St. John's River Shipbuilding was an emergency yard, with 6 ways in the fifth wave of shipbuilding expansion, with $17mm invested by the USMC.   It was built by an established small shipbuilder and repairer, Merrill-Stevens, which had been in operation in Jacksonville since 1866 and is still in operation today, although now it is located in Miami.  After the war, the shipyard became a repair yard: it closed in the 1980s and the site has been redeveloped.
http://shipbuildinghistory.com/history/shipyards/4emergency/wwtwo/stjohnsriver.htm



This old viaduct, just south of Bay Street, once carried the Seaboard Coastline Railroad to the company's lumber docks and the Milldale Ice Company's ice plant, both of which eventually became the eastern half of the Shipyards property.





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The new Bay Street bridge over Hogans Creek was completed in 2008.  The $3 million project had two purposes: to widen the bridge to five lanes and widen Hogans Creek to help alleviate flooding in downtown.




Maxwell House Coffee Plant



Roasting one million pounds of coffee a day, the Maxwell House Coffee plant anchors the mouth of Hogans Creek and is one of the last remaining industrial facilities in what was once a working waterfront.



In 1910, the Cheek-Neal Coffee Company opened at this site because it was adjacent to where coffee used to be loaded onto ships on Bay Street.  Including payroll, taxes, utilities, and purchases of goods and services, the plant is estimated to have an annual economic impact of $30 million on the city.















Now a part of Maxwell House's property, this trailer storage area was once the site of the M. Corse Wood & Lumberyard.  This company took advantage of Hogans Creek by bringing barges up the waterway to ship their products (see historic Adams Street viaduct postcard below).


The Commodore Point Expressway connects downtown Jacksonville with the Hart Bridge, completely bypassing the Sports District and the former East Jacksonville community below.



The Adams Street bridge was opened in 2004 to provide another route for moving traffic during Super Bowl XXXIX.  While the portable metal bridge was borrowed from the state Department of Transportation at no cost, it cost $360,000 to build the short two-lane road that extends from the bridge to Adams Street.  The City of Jacksonville plans to keep the portable bridge in place until it can round up money to build a permanent bridge at an estimated cost of $1 million.



It is a far cry from the original Adams Street Viaduct, which once carried a streetcar line over Hogans Creek to connect Jacksonville with the communities of East Jacksonville, Fairfield and Oakland.


St. Luke's Hospital



Dedicated in 1878, the old St. Luke's Hospital was Jacksonville's first hospital and one of the few buildings that survived the Great Fire of 1901.

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“The only reasons the hospital wasn’t destroyed is because it was on the other side of Hogans Creek away from the town and there was a brigade of brave citizens who were able to stop the march of the fire,” said Emily Lisska, executive director of the Jacksonville Historical Society.
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/downtowntoday.php?dt_date=2010-02-09

Today, there are plans to convert the former hospital and the adjacent former Florida Casket Company factory and warehouse (completed in 1882) into a history museum and archive facility for the Jacksonville Historical Society.

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The hospital will become a museum and education center while the warehouse will be renovated and then used for storage of the JHS archives and as a research facility in partnership with the Southern Genealogist’s Exchange Society.

“It will be a center for Jacksonville’s history,” said JHS President Jerry Spinks, who is leading the fundraising effort. “We feel it’s important to maintain all of the city’s history in one place and we’ll also be able to educate people about what to preserve and how to preserve it if they don’t want to donate their historical items to us.”

While she admitted it’s “only a guess,” Lisska estimated there are currently more than 1 million items in the JHS collection including documents, photographs and other historically significant collectibles. Much of the collection is at Jacksonville University with the rest in storage at several locations.
http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/downtowntoday.php?dt_date=2010-02-09




The new Duval Street viaduct was constructed during the 1990s.  During this time, land just west of the creek was found to be contaminated with arsenic, lead and petroleum-related laced soil.  This is not suprising considering the area was once the site of a St. Johns River Terminal's railyard with a junkyard, the former Independent Ice & Fuel Company and the Eagle Laundry plant operating nearby.







The old F&J line and railyard can be seen on the left side of this historic aerial.

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The History: The Fernandina and Jacksonville Railroad

The original trunk line of Florida the Florida Railway, ran from Fernandina Beach to Cedar Key, by way of Yulee, Baldwin, Gainesville. The second company was the Florida Central and Western, from Jacksonville to Quincy, via Baldwin, Lake City, Madison, and Tallahassee. Baldwin was the sole, and major railroad junction for all Florida freight. The Tallahassee leaders held on to an archaic law that required interstate freight to cross into Florida via ship! The railroads were banned from building over the line. When the Civil War demonstrated the weakness in the system, the Confederate government build a connection to Dupont, Georgia. As Fernandina was in Union hands, the material for the connection came from the Yulee - Baldwin segment of the railroad. After the war, Jacksonville, quickly became the "CITY". Fernandina and Jacksonville residents clamored for a connection and the Fernandina and Jacksonville Railroad was constructed from Yulee to Bay Street in downtown Jax. This route became part of the Seaboard Air Line Railroad when they bought out all of the above properties. The Seaboard Mainline extended from Richmond to Yulee, and the F&J provided the critical link.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2007-nov-the-fernandina-and-jacksonville-railroad



The old Atlantic Coast Line Railroad and the Union Terminal Warehouse in 1949.

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The second line was the former Atlantic Coast Line Railroad, which came out of Springfield Yard. This was once the 1890's Jacksonville Southwestern Railroad.  It was built by major lumber interests and ran from the port in Springfield to Grand Crossing, Baldwin, Lake Butler, to Newberry.  As they were bought out by the powerful ACL, more branchlines were extended into port areas where many mills and shipping interests were.  Thus we ended up with two railroads running from Springfield to Bay Street. Not too many years ago, the old Coast line still crossed Bay, ran through JSI, across the front of Metropolitan Park and into the terminals under the Hart bridge. This allowed the railroad to switch the industry's from either the Maxwell House or the Talleyrand direction.
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2007-nov-the-fernandina-and-jacksonville-railroad



The former Union Terminal Company warehouse (in the background), at 648 East Union Street, was built along the former Fernandina & Jacksonville railroad line in 1913.  The Union Terminal Company took advantage of a site that was sandwiched between two competing rail lines and adjacent to Hogans Creek by offering tenants access to all three.  During the building's early years, tenants included the Florida School Book Depository, AM Grocery Company, Loose-Wiles Biscuit Company, Virginia Paper Company, Westinghouse Electric & Manufacturing Company and a restaurant called the Union Terminal Lunch Room.  In 2007, the property was purchased by Union Station East, LLC. for $4.21 million.  Currently home to several small businesses, this historic structure could potentially be demolished for the future Matthews Bridge replacement project, giving its proximity to the expressway.  Directly adjacent to Hogans Creek, this property and surrounding Eastside community would greatly benefit from a long delayed plan to better utilize this forgotten waterway.






Adjacent to the Arlington Expressway



Although the Arlington Expressway is nearby, the section of Hogans Creek between Duval and Washington Streets offers a sense of tranquility.









Although this rarely seen and forgotten navigable section of Hogans Creek ends at Washington Street, the pending reconstruction of the Matthews Bridge brings an opportunity to better connect this area with the well known channelized section of the creek that separates downtown from Springfield.  

To tour and learn more about this area of Hogans Creek: The Ruins of Jacksonville: Hogans Creek

Article and photographs by Ennis Davis







204 Comments

uptowngirl

October 05, 2010, 06:12:28 AM
Interesting article! I love Hogans Creek and just think it is one of the most under utilized assets both DT and in Springfield. It is supposedly too contaminated to use, or do anything with, but tides go both ways, and it cannot be good for the St. Johns, it should be cleaned, restored and an active part of our parks system!

billy

October 05, 2010, 06:33:24 AM
What is the latest on the Matthews Bridge replacement?
Are there actual plans in place?

billy

October 05, 2010, 06:34:30 AM
Mathews..

Dapperdan

October 05, 2010, 09:31:24 AM
I wonder if any excavation of Timicuan ruins has ever been done in this area. If there was a burial mound there, there should be all sorts of archaeological finds below the surface.

thelakelander

October 05, 2010, 09:42:34 AM
I can't confirm but I've heard in the past that there was a burial mound at the base of the Main Street Bridge on the Southbank.  We preserved it by building an expressway over it.

tufsu1

October 05, 2010, 01:33:36 PM
since Maxwell House is along the creek, I thought this thread would be a good place to post this article

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-10-04/story/when-coffee-plant-talked-moving-keep-max-jax-campaign-was-born

ralpho37

October 05, 2010, 04:58:39 PM
@Billy:  MATTHEWS

tufsu1

October 05, 2010, 06:08:24 PM
Actually billy is correct

Noone

October 05, 2010, 07:40:24 PM
Lake, Great work again. This is Dist.7 and this creek has the immediate potential for a pocket pier on this urban waterway.

On Friday Oct. 8 city hall Conf. room A ste. 425. the Jacksonville Waterway Commission is holding a subcommittee meetining on FIND. With a new city council and Mayor and with the commissioners of Find meeting Nov. 12 in Duval county this could be a huge opportunity for the people of Springfield.

FIND projects are introduced and acted on in phases.

Springfield residents if you want action now then show up at this meeting. Otherwise it could be another election cycle before your concerns are heard. (4 years)

Noone

November 07, 2010, 06:51:59 AM
Marc McCullough city council candidate for Dist. 7 and I paddled Hogans Creek. Marc if elected said that this issue as well as the 680' Promised Downtown Public Pier will be very high for him and the constituents of Dist.7

I have yet to hear back from councilman Gaffney. Has anyone heard from councilman Gaffney?

I do plan on attending the Nov.12 meeting of FIND ( Florida Inland Navigation District)
My message is this.

FIND is good.

Jacksonville is LOST.

North Miami, Fieldafm, I am stoked and pumped to paddle this treasure with you and anyone else that wants to see and experience this potential waterfront access point that will allow all of us to access, promote, and celebrate our St. Johns River our American Heritage River within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District that was created with 2003-627.

billy

November 07, 2010, 10:59:38 AM
Good work, all.

Noone

November 15, 2010, 05:32:57 AM
Beautiful day today. Anybody want to add this to there Downtown bucket list. Candidates for the spring elections are moved to the top of the list. We can do this or the more sportier McCoys Creek. Call me 904-434-0839 and we won't talk about it. We'll make it happen. huge campaign issue.

Keep score.

marcforcitycouncil

November 15, 2010, 10:37:09 AM
Good morning, as I said this issues (Hogans Creek) WILL be on the top of my list. I have been here in this community for 40yrs and had no ideal that "we" had such a treasure. Please call Mr. Noone (John) and go see this wonderful water way, and let me know when we're meeting and I'll be there!!!

fsujax

November 15, 2010, 10:47:55 AM
nice photos. Every Jag home game I walk over the Duval St viaduct and look down on the creek and think to myself what a waste and how sad. My buddy and I always envision it being cleaned, opened up with full access. Too bad the City can't or will not get this project moving forward!

north miami

November 15, 2010, 11:22:41 AM
Beautiful day today. We can do this or the more sportier McCoys Creek. Call me 904-434-0839 and we won't talk about it. We'll make it happen. huge campaign issue.

Keep score.

Many inches of snow fell throughout the US during the past couple of days and here we are in the midst of actually very typical weather-this is the kind of stuff that "puts us on the map" !

I am forwarding this MJ thread to Jim Bailey- Waterways Commission member and candidate for Mayor and Ron Littlepage.

keep score.

Noone

November 18, 2010, 05:53:50 AM
Doing a double today. Taking someone under the TU then we'll be heading over to Hogans Creek. For those of you in this area of Downtown if you post the color of the kayaks that we will be paddling on this thread I'll treat you to a meal at Roberts eatery at 8th and Ionia.

No guessing the color of the kayaks. But you can guess who will be the Jacksonville city council member that will introduce legislation that will keep the 680' Promised Downtown Public Pier separate from the 44 acres that was the failed Shipyards/Landmar. 2010-604

Keep score.

Noone

November 18, 2010, 11:09:19 AM
Fun paddle. 40 minutes on the water. Little clean up to then finished off at Robert's Eatery at 8th and Ionia.

Dog Walker

November 18, 2010, 01:44:17 PM
Noone, you should have started at Hogan's and then gone to McCoys.  The tide was really ripping in the wrong direction for you this morning.  I'm impressed that you could make progress against it.

Noone

November 18, 2010, 09:11:59 PM
DW, You are right about the tides. We put in at RCB then paddled over to the TU. The paddle going over wasn't to bad. But we went back to RCB and then drove over to Hogans Creek. Didn't paddle the whole way against it.

Once we came out of the darkness of the TU we hugged the shore and paddled against the current towards the Landing. Then we tracked over to RCB. The current is strong and it can be very dangerous.

Noone

November 21, 2010, 06:45:30 AM
Paddled Hogans Creek Friday. Another beautiful day. We had a blast.

More and more people are wanting to see this urban jewel of a waterway that connects to our St. Johns River an American Heritage River in the HEART of our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District 2003-627

One of the biggest city council and mayoral campaign issues in the spring elections.

Noone

November 26, 2010, 01:33:05 PM
Paddled the Creek today with an out of town guest. Spotted two painted turtles on a log. First time that I witnessed that. We decided to just do Hogans and save McCoys for another day. Still haven't heard from councilman Gaffney.

Noone

December 07, 2010, 08:06:05 AM
Met councilman Gaffney last night at the neighborhood meeting of the unveiling of the Park View Pavilion in Springfield and asked him if he would be interested in seeing Hogans Creek from Washington and Liberty to the Maxwell House Plant and he said that he was going to pass. That is OK.

Heck I've never been on a train. Unless the skyway counts and once in Atlanta, Oh, and one time riding the subway in New York. But after being on this forum my eyes are opening to this other form of transportation.

So anyway who wants to paddle Hogans Creek? Elected officials and those running for office go to the front of the line.

Noone

December 24, 2010, 03:13:23 AM
So who wants to continue to Make it Happen? Just a quick shout out from whoever it was on this forum that went to Robert's Eatery at 8Th and Ionia besides CS Foltz. Robert gave me a call yesterday and said that someone came by his hot dog cart and they were  from Metjax. This forum makes it happen. Robert has his new banner up for the election season and the guy that made it did a nice job. Robert was bundled up and the wind was sporty but I had my sausage dog with some onions, slaw and a coke and I was good. Robert wants to see Hogans Creek too.

Anyone else want to see Hogans Creek during the Christmas break and be able to share with all the agencies throughout the state of Florida your familiarity with a Waterway that will be front and center in topic discussions from an environmental standpoint to an economic development engine. 

Noone

January 01, 2011, 07:20:58 AM
What a way to start off the New Year. Had the pleasure Friday sharing the waterway with Dougskiles and his son Jacob. Doug and his son had participated in a running event that morning and I was already playing in the water so when we met at noon we just headed up to Roberts Eatery at 8th and Ionia and had a much needed energy burst. After that sausage dog with slaw and a coke we were then ready to paddle Hogans Creek.

It was a low tide where we put in and so right from the beginning we knew it was going to be a sporty trip. We put in across from the Fire station and Police station so safety and security should never be an issue. The exposed creek at a low tide is a visual reminder of the scope of the cleanup that lies ahead in making this urban waterway more of an attraction of what an added benefit it can be for the people of Jacksonville.

After a few times of getting out of your kayak and finding some deeper water we hit a patch of Hogans Creek that had a white water rip. Thats right, the rapids of Hogans Creek. This potential 40-50 foot stretch of the waterway could be accelerated with the repositioning of some key concrete chunks. I know I'm excited.

Once we got past some of these minor challenges the water was calm and with the outgoing tide it was a relaxed paddle out to the river. There was activity all around us as we approached the river and exited under Bay street.

The paddle back to Washington st. and Liberty st. was met with the same low water challenges. I couldn't think of a better team to have done this trip at low tide. Doug and his son Jacob had the smile on their face when getting out and walking through to get to the deeper water. In true boy scout form we left the place cleaner than we found it. Doug and Jacob pulled out a bicycle tire and some other small pieces of garbage. Talk about making it happen!

I had a blast and look forward to Jacob leading the next trip. So whos next? Current elected officials and candidates for the spring election go to the front of the line.

dougskiles

January 01, 2011, 08:49:14 AM
That was a great trip Noone - thanks.  Jacob has been pestering me all morning about when we are going back.  His goal is to collect enough old bikes and parts to make a functional bike.  We are thinking about making it a regular Saturday morning event.

Ocklawaha

January 01, 2011, 10:38:42 PM
CAN YOU GUESS WHICH PHOTOS ARE OF JACKSONVILLE'S HOGAN'S CREEK?

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SOMEBODY PASS THE SOCO! DAMN JACKSONVILLE! JUST DAMN!

OCKLAWAHA

Mueller

January 01, 2011, 10:56:59 PM
Please Ock, you're making me hurt in this new year, that had started out so well.   >:(

Noone

January 02, 2011, 03:00:15 AM
Ock, Thanks for the pics. The cleanup has begun. It won't be easy. Its hard to say that it will really be fun. But if we want to say "Visit Jacksonville!" It needs to happen.

So who's next?  Elected officials and those running in the spring election go to the front of the line. Don't think for one second just because your not running in District 7 that you can't participate in this activity. After January 4th and the swearing in of Governor Scott this issue can become an issue that will and should be on the radar screen for the new Governor.

Miss Fixit

January 02, 2011, 08:25:07 PM
Ock, thanks for posting those photos.  Most folks in Jax compare San Antonio's river to the St. Johns but clearly the scale of that waterway is much more similar to Hogans Creek. 

What a waste of an incredible natural asset....

dougskiles

January 05, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
Hey Noone,

Pending completion of his homework (which is a topic for another rant - too much?  I think so) Jacob and I are planning another paddle on Hogan's Creek Saturday morning (8:30 to 9:30).  Primary purpose will be to collect more bicycles.  Do you know if the tide will be high or low?  I am expecting cold weather but he says he is up for it.

Noone

January 05, 2011, 02:12:08 PM
I'm in!!

Still have to check with the big boss. Hopefully I can play. You guys can focus on the bikes I've got my sites set on another shopping cart.
I'll bring an extra kayak that we can use to haul our prizes out with.

Who cares about the tides or weather. I'm realizing the Skiles team is up for all challenges.

Its fun to make it happen.

JaxNative68

January 05, 2011, 05:47:28 PM
exactly where do you guy put the kayaks in the water for this for this trip?

dougskiles

January 05, 2011, 08:05:28 PM
There is an open area that looks like it could be a park (should be a park...) on the east side of Washington Street before you get to the Matthews Expressway.  We drove into the grass area to unload the kayaks and then parked the cars on Beaver Street.



Hope you can make it sometime - the more the merrier.

Noone

January 06, 2011, 05:05:39 AM
Nice pic. Right where Beaver St. dead ends. What an opportunity. A part of the Downtown Blueway. The Emerald necklace highlighted By Chan Krieger & Associates in a report for Downtown Vision and was part of a JCCI study River Dance-Putting the River in River city. This is District 7. New leadership can make it happen. The arial highlights the potential.

ricker

January 06, 2011, 09:31:53 AM
I want to paddle with you guys for sure!
so glad in my heart that this is all so very important to more and more folks!
Saturdays?
pretty regular thing?
the group I work with has recently adopted a few miles of highway so I can bring a slew of gloves and trash bags and orange vests if we need any of those supplies.

north miami

January 06, 2011, 09:42:41 AM
Nice pic. Right where Beaver St. dead ends. What an opportunity. A part of the Downtown Blueway. The Emerald necklace highlighted By Chan Krieger & Associates in a report for Downtown Vision and was part of a JCCI study River Dance-Putting the River in River city. This is District 7. New leadership can make it happen. The arial highlights the potential.

Yet ANOTHER JCCI study........hopefully this one comes down off the shelf and morphs towards reality.

Miss Fixit

January 06, 2011, 09:05:12 PM
Great pic, dougskiles.  I kayaked Hogans Creek with noone a while back so have a good feel for the waterway but didn't realize how much potential there is for a waterfront park in that area!  Noone, do you know if the parking lot in the lower right is city owned?

Noone

January 08, 2011, 05:01:09 AM
Miss Fixit It was a pleasure to meet you to and share a beautiful day on the water. One of these days we'll have to do McCoys Creek to. As to the parking lot I was there with Ennis and he was going to check it out. Marc McCullough also was going to check into it after our paddle. I'm pretty sure Jim Bailey has the information but I didn't ask him about it when I had an opportunity to meet him. I don't know the answer. I 've got a gut feeling that it is. If not the city then the state and that is OK. Still looking to paddle Hogans with Ken Jefferson and Audrey Moran. Its a positive issue and an opportunity for the next city council and Mayor. The candidates for Sheriff when they paddle this waterway may have an added perspective on how this activity could be used as a tool for troubled youth. There are so many other potential waterfront public access street ends that can be used.   

thelakelander

January 08, 2011, 06:18:12 AM
The 1.1 acre lot is owned by SLG INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP LLLP. The RE number is 073342 0000.

dougskiles

January 08, 2011, 07:00:11 AM
Saturdays?
pretty regular thing?

I'm going to try to be there most Saturdays but doubt that I will be able to hit them all.  We will be there this morning and fortunately it will not be as cold as I previously thought.

Noone

January 08, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
The 1.1 acre lot is owned by SLG INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP LLLP. The RE number is 073342 0000.
Doesn't sound like the city. So whose SLG?

Miss Fixit

January 08, 2011, 12:59:39 PM
This limited liability partnership is controlled by Sidney J. Gefen.  Mr. Gefen founded Duval Marine in 1947 and many years later sold it to the City of Jacksonville at below market value in connection with construction of the northbank riverwalk.  Subsequently, the Northbank Riverwalk Park was renamed Sidney Gefen Riverwalk Park in his honor.  Mr. Gefen has been well known for his efforts to encourage tourism in Florida.

Seems encouraging - there may be an opportunity to work with Mr. Gefen to create a park along Hogan's Creek! Mr. Geffen is 90 years old; his daughter, Barbara Jaffe, is likely well known to many readers.

dougskiles

January 08, 2011, 01:44:32 PM
It was a beautiful day on the creek.  We encountered a couple of ducks...



and bikes...





and lastly a campaign card for Warren Lee...





Mr. Lee, please consider this your invitation to come paddle Hogan's Creek and Fix Jacksonville.

Noone

January 08, 2011, 05:52:29 PM
This limited liability partnership is controlled by Sidney J. Gefen.  Mr. Gefen founded Duval Marine in 1947 and many years later sold it to the City of Jacksonville at below market value in connection with construction of the northbank riverwalk.  Subsequently, the Northbank Riverwalk Park was renamed Sidney Gefen Riverwalk Park in his honor.  Mr. Gefen has been well known for his efforts to encourage tourism in Florida.

Seems encouraging - there may be an opportunity to work with Mr. Gefen to create a park along Hogan's Creek! Mr. Geffen is 90 years old; his daughter, Barbara Jaffe, is likely well known to many readers.

WOW!

Ocklawaha

January 24, 2011, 12:10:20 PM
Big open waterways is one of the prime reasons that Jacksonville could capitalize on Hogan's and another hundred creeks like this throughout our city. Strong wind is nearly impossible to deal with in a paddle craft which makes a smaller protected waterway MUCH more attractive. From Craig's Creek to Pottsburg to Hogan's, Mc Coy's and Fishweir, this city is rich in small craft waterways. Chances are had this guy been paddling in one of our creeks his wedding would still be on.

OCKLAWAHA

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TAMPA | Wes Powe and Jerry Knight set out from the MacDill Air Force Base boat ramp Saturday morning for a day of kayaking on Tampa Bay.

Jerry Knight, whose body was recovered Sunday afternoon in Tampa Bay.

It was a trip that would turn deadly for Knight, whose body was recovered Sunday afternoon in the choppy waters south of the Air Force base.

When they set out, the sun was shining and the wind was brisk.

Powe, 33, of Bartow, and Knight, 22, of Lakeland, began their journey about 11:30 a.m. and paddled around the peninsula in the northeast section of Tampa Bay, according to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

Strong winds and rough seas separated the two about 1:20 p.m. Powe became exhausted and could paddle no more, FWC spokesman Gary Morse said.

As winds pushed him into a shipping channel, Powe tied his kayak to a buoy.

He never saw Knight again.

Knight was reported missing at 4:30 p.m. after personnel on a ship saw Powe and alerted the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office to his position off Gadsden Point, Morse said.

An Hillsborough sheriff's boat that had been escorting a ship in the bay went to Powe's rescue and radioed the U.S. Coast Guard about Knight.

A flotilla of boats were launched and helicopters scoured the bay for any sign of Knight, but the rescuers had no luck Saturday, Coast Guard Petty Officer 2nd Class Robert Simpson said.

"Multiple federal, state and local law-enforcement agencies conducted an exhaustive search," he said.

Early Sunday, authorities spotted Knight's gray kayak on Beer Can Island several miles east of the base.

Authorities searched the island, but found nothing.

Simpson said the kayak appeared to have washed up on the island, with no indication that Knight had placed it there.

Emergency rescue crews from the Coast Guard, MacDill, the FWC, Tampa police and the Hillsborough, Pinellas and Manatee County Sheriff's Offices continued their difficult search.

The passing cold front Saturday made conditions on the water challenging. And those conditions continued Sunday.

"It's really tough to search for someone when it's that choppy," Simpson said.

The search came to an end about 3:30 p.m. Sunday when a fisherman spotted Knight's body, wearing a life vest, near E. G. Simmons Park in Ruskin, south of the base, Morse said.

An autopsy to determine Knight's cause of death will be performed by the Hillsborough County Medical Examiner' Office.

While there were no outward signs as to the cause of Knight's death, Morse said it might have been hypothermia.

The water temperature of Tampa Bay was about 57 degrees, according to National Weather Service Meteorologist Anthony Reynes.

When Powe and Knight set off on their excursion, a small craft advisory had been issued at 10 a.m. Saturday by the Weather Service, warning of rough seas and sustained winds between 20 and 25 mph. Wind gusts over 30 mph were recorded.

The advisory was in effect until 10 p.m. Saturday night.

"We did have choppy conditions inside the bay," Reynes said. "And with winds between 20 and 25 mph, that's pretty significant for a small vessel."

Knight, an avid outdoorsman, attended Bartow High School and was engaged to be married.

north miami

January 24, 2011, 03:00:33 PM
Big open waterways is one of the prime reasons that Jacksonville could capitalize on Hogan's and another hundred creeks like this throughout our city. Strong wind is nearly impossible to deal with in a paddle craft which makes a smaller protected waterway MUCH more attractive. From Craig's Creek to Pottsburg to Hogan's, Mc Coy's and Fishweir, this city is rich in small craft waterways.

OCKLAWAHA

Spent a long weekend at St.Simons and Jekyl Island two weeks ago.Small craft/kayak is a central theme,along with Okefenokee Swamp.
Talked with the area kayak shops,guide services...........they obviously hold Duval county in reverence,and may even view us as viable 'competitor'.One can learn a great deal from such outlook.
As wonderful as St.Simons is,"Downtown" St.Simons and environs makes one really appreciate Downtown Jacksonville water ways.

Even on the subject of Okefenokee I held them in a state of awe with the good news from Florida-we just down the road in Florida have recently linked Okefenokee with a public lands extension of Osceola National Forest- a significant initiative offering even more diverse,spontaneous public access and recreation.

Captain Zissou

January 24, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
I'd be interested in getting a little messy cleaning up the creek this Saturday.  Anyone going to be out there?

DA_MONSTER

January 25, 2011, 08:44:52 AM
I'll go out there, you scallywag!!!

Ocklawaha

January 25, 2011, 10:29:34 AM
We don't need a kayak or canoe for this job, we need a barge! Though if anyone has a jonboat that might help.

OCKLAWAHA

fieldafm

January 25, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
Ok, lets do this.  PM me your phone numbers if you want to make it happen this Saturday.  I think Noone has a jonboat that could assist in this process.

Captain Zissou

January 25, 2011, 12:26:25 PM
I may be able to bring a Kayak, but I might be totally land based in my efforts.  This is all assuming that Da Monster is actually serious about it as well, as I'd need to borrow his truck!!!

fieldafm

January 25, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
Kayak or no... the creek needs help.  Its a cool paddle, but it also needs trash pickup in the worst way.  I stepped in human excriment on Saturday.

The more people that take interest, the more our 'leaders' will take notice.

I have a truck if one is needed.  Da Monster's support is highly encouraged as well.

Noone

January 25, 2011, 02:52:34 PM
Field I'm in. Right now I'll try and be there about 8:45 It should be an outgoing tide. I'll bring a tandem and take you. Unless you have your own kayak. I know I'll be having to head back after 10 but just putting another dent and making the waterway visually better will just benefit our entire city of Jacksonville. I don't have a jon boat.

But lets make it happen and emerge under the Bay st. bridge and then look at the view that is our St. Johns River our American Heritage River and then paddle back against the tide and with whatever garbage that we have just collected you can feel so good knowing that you have just made a scene Downtown and our Waterway is better for it.

 

CG7

January 25, 2011, 03:10:44 PM
Let me know the closest place to put the 'yak in and i'm there.

Captain Zissou

January 25, 2011, 03:16:20 PM
Sounds like this could be a busy morning at the creek.  Field, Noone, CG7, Monster, myself...Ock?  Any other takers??

DA_MONSTER

January 25, 2011, 04:08:24 PM
Come on you curmudgeons!!  What would Freddie Mercury do??

"I like to be surrounded by splendid things." - Freddie

Noone

January 26, 2011, 04:17:35 AM
Can't wait for us to Make it Happen. Capt. Zissou I'll bring an extra kayak just to make sure your covered. Its a bucket list activity that you will be talking about for years to come.

DA_MONSTER

January 26, 2011, 08:28:20 AM
I stepped in human excriment on Saturday.

Just out of curiosity, how do you know it was human excrement??

dougskiles

January 26, 2011, 10:27:47 AM
When you get out there, you will know why.  I'm sorry that we can't make it - it sounds like a fun time.  Can't wait to see photos and read stories.

billy

January 26, 2011, 10:43:03 AM
where are people launching?

Captain Zissou

January 26, 2011, 10:48:50 AM
Let me know the closest place to put the 'yak in and i'm there.
where are people launching?

If you look at page 3 of this thread, there's a photo for Noones Launch.  it looks to be at the intersection of Beaver and Washington.  It appears that Beaver dead ends right at the launch point.  This would be an easily accessible and convenient place to put a park/ launch point.  I'm excited. 

CG7

January 26, 2011, 12:28:42 PM
Thanks, Ill be there about 8:30 Saturday

Ocklawaha

January 26, 2011, 12:55:58 PM


It is a beautiful site as long as you don't step in anything... This is exactly where I propose we develop a "Trolley Park," a cross between Boone Park in Riverside, the old Dixieland Park on the Southside, with a dash of San Antonio Riverwalk tossed in for good measure.

The proposed stadium extension of the streetcar line would use Beaver and run right off this end and on across the creek to Randolph.


OCKLAWAHA

JaxNative68

January 26, 2011, 05:52:27 PM
"Come on you curmudgeons!!  What would Freddie Mercury do??"

he'd get on his bike and ride!
i want to ride my bicycle, i want to ride my bike . . . right into hogans creek.

billy

January 26, 2011, 06:42:50 PM
One Man, One Vision!

PatODo

January 28, 2011, 11:13:02 AM
I'll be at Hogans with my 3yo nephew around 8:30am. Never too early to appreciate our city! Should be fun! Noone, I'll give you a ring Saturday morning when we're on our way out.

Ocklawaha

January 28, 2011, 06:26:23 PM
Is the cleanup still on for SATURDAY MORNING? 8:30am end of Beaver Street?

LET'S DO IT!


OCKLAWAHA

Noone

January 28, 2011, 07:36:59 PM
Its still on. Loaded some kayaks and looking forward to meeting you Ock and some others. PatODo your nephew is going to have a lot of fun. Hope someone is bringing a camera.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

January 28, 2011, 08:04:06 PM
One Man, One Vision!

wahowahowahoawaho, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah!
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/mF8SMibVFog?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/mF8SMibVFog?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>

PatODo

January 28, 2011, 09:49:29 PM
I'll have the camera! Just hoping my nephew takes to being out in the kayak...if not we'll keep an eye on the trailer back at base!  ;-)

Noone

January 30, 2011, 05:39:08 AM
Yesterday was a Chamber of Commerce day for experiencing Hogans Creek. It started with PatOD0 and his 3 year old nephew Gavin arriving and the immediate smile on that child's face with the wading birds that were surrounding us and the anticipation of going for a ride on the water. He had the happy face and attitude from start to finish. What a proud uncle PatODo.   

Field arrived and we immediately were getting the kayaks ready and in the water. Cg7 arrived and with the precision of a vetreran had his craft in the water and was ready to go. It was an outgoing tide and if we didn't get started right away it was definitely going to impact the fun factor.

Field and I led the way down the creek. Sitting in the front there seemed to be more birds than I can recall. The warm weather, falling tide, baitfish, all contributed to a visual pleasure of pushing these birds toward the river and their increasing numbers as the flock seemed to swell as we continued to advance in the water.

When we went under the Bay St. bridge we were then just seconds from popping out into the St. Johns River our American Heritage River. A boat was out in the channel booking it heading north. Field and I just went out about a 100 yards and then did a 360 and we were heading back. At the same time here comes PatODo and Gavin and he's saying Mr. John as he has his stick in the water and gliding it through.  His enthusiasm was so good to hear.

We are heading back as the tide is continuing to fall. We spot Ock on the top of Bay st. bridge. we are making the trek back. Craig is bring up the rear and you just have that feeling that there isn't a better man for that position.   

I point out to  Field my shopping cart creek depth meter. On a high tide its under water. Its pretty exposed. We are making good time going against the current and back to our starting point. We are going over the rapids of Hogans Creek and are starting to feel the shallowness of the creek because we are just scraping the bottom in some spots. We all made it back just before it would have turned into a non paddling event.

With the trip over and our kayaks put away and a little cleanup we are about to say our good byes then Capt. Zissou shows up with reinforcements, Kelly and Tripp.  They want to do some cleaning up and just like that the little cleanup turned into a major cleanup. Tripp went for the big stuff and used the truck to getr-done. We ended up pulling out chairs, tires, mattresses, filling up bags of garbage. What a team effort. I had fun.

Hogans Creek its Jacksonville's unpolished gem. 

Captain Zissou

January 30, 2011, 03:08:51 PM
Even though we focused on such a small portion of the creek (Noone's Launch Park), it's amazing how much was and still is out there to clean up.  We evicted one or two urban outdoorsmen, cleaned up one 'home' that had been abandoned a couple months ago, removed 3 or 4 office chairs, a mattress, a few tires, and probably 50+ beer can rings. 

I can't wait to get back out there to clean.  I had a blast cleaning yesterday and my eyes were really opened to the potential of the creek.  I have an entirely new perspective on what Noone is trying to do with the creek and downtown's waterfront.  If those are restored, we will have one of the nicest urban areas in the country.

dougskiles

January 30, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
Sounds like a great time.  When is the next one?

fieldafm

January 30, 2011, 05:31:58 PM
I'm leaving to go out of town for a week.

How about the 12th or the 19th?

I'll bring a truck this time to help with the efforts.  Tripp's truck was a HUGE help.

Lets start breaking this into sections along the creek basin and I bet with 3 or 4 of these morning meetups we'll have the Hogan Creek Greenbelt looking its best since Klutho was alive.  By that time, a new leadership apparatus will be installed and they'll start to hear us loud and clear.  I like Ock's idea in that respect.

Miss Fixit

January 30, 2011, 05:38:29 PM
Are you going to focus on the Creek from Noone's landing to the river, or continue through confederate and Klutho parks?  We've been involved in some cleanups there in the past.  Either way, we'd be up for helping with future cleanups.

fieldafm

January 30, 2011, 06:05:35 PM
I think right now b/c the Hogan Creek Greenbelt from the Shipyards basin through Noones Landing has been (criminally) neglected for so long, that should be the priority.  This is the navigable section of the creek and it is in so much worse shape than the area from the first Klutho ballastrade until Boulevard.  Ock and I actually found what we think was once a majestic lake adjacent to Klutho Park yesterday, incidentally. 

Klutho and Confederate Park is SO important to the Greenbelt, the Cathedral District, Dowtown, the Sports District, Springfield and the Riverwalk.  It has to all tie together. 

That said, if you want to do a Springfield park system cleanup on a Sunday or Saturday afternoon, I'll be there with bells on.

The annual Greenscape flowering tree sale is coming up at the end of the month.  I'd also be willing to donate some trees/flowering shrubs for the efforts and plant them anywhere along the Hogans Creek Greenbelt that would be beneficial as well.

dougskiles

January 30, 2011, 06:50:41 PM
I'm leaving to go out of town for a week.

How about the 12th or the 19th?

I'll bring a truck this time to help with the efforts.  Tripp's truck was a HUGE help.

Lets start breaking this into sections along the creek basin and I bet with 3 or 4 of these morning meetups we'll have the Hogan Creek Greenbelt looking its best since Klutho was alive.  By that time, a new leadership apparatus will be installed and they'll start to hear us loud and clear.  I like Ock's idea in that respect.

I am available on the 12th.

Ocklawaha

January 30, 2011, 07:25:48 PM
Here's some photos of the cleanup Saturday Morning, I would have put Noone in the top photo, but really Kelly was much more pleasant on the eyes. Don't worry buddy, you won't see me in any of the shots either, I mean digital camera's only allow for so many pixels. I didn't bring my boat either... the Titanic sank some time ago. Giving credit where it is due, we DID encounter a young (homeless?) man who was cutting through the woods and asked us what we were doing, when we told him he rolled up his sleeves and joined us... So our thanks to Henry too. ;D

OCKLAWAHA























Noone

January 30, 2011, 07:44:47 PM
Nice pics Ock.
I'm in for the 12th or 19th. Don't know if I'll be able to commit to both. Let me just throw this out there.

The 12th at 11am Low Tide. Just work.

The 19th at 10:45am High Tide. Work and Fun.

DA_MONSTER

January 31, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
I believe his name was Henry.  ;D

Captain Zissou

January 31, 2011, 09:15:42 AM
I'm pretty sure I can do either the 12th or the 19th.  If we pick just one day, let me know and I think I can find a few other volunteers! 

fieldafm

January 31, 2011, 11:30:48 AM
Lets do it up on the 12th then.  As Noone said, this will be just cleanup day only as the tide schedule isn't the greatest that Saturday.

Who's down? 

I'll scout out a good section, bring my truck this time, bring some better work gloves(my latex gloves broke fishing that boombox out of the creekbed... and we all know nothing good happens when your rubber breaks) and we can make it happen.

Bring your Valentine out and make a cheap date of it  :)

Captain Zissou

January 31, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
The 12th it is.  I'll bring some proper boots and heavier gloves this time.  I'll see what I can do about volunteers, I should be able to find 5 or 6.  Lunch afterward??

I honestly had a blast last Saturday, so I'm even more excited about the next one.

Ocklawaha

January 31, 2011, 12:53:39 PM
We should get the city to assist with a dumpster, and get TV and TU involved. Be nice if someone has a Jon boat.

OCKLAWAHA

Noone

February 01, 2011, 05:19:13 AM
I'm in for the 12th. Start about 9. HUGE city council and mayoral campaign issue.

Yesterday after the Rules meeting I went up to the 4th floor and had an impromptu meeting with councilman Joost. He is warming and starting to express the benefits of not just Hogans but our river overall. It was a short positive meeting but I got a gut feeling that we'll be paddling Hogans Creek in the future. I think he's just excited about doing it. The issue will continue to grow.

Captain Zissou I can't wait either and what a team effort with the numbers we had and just imagine doubling it the next time. Maybe we can just hug the city fence line and see how far we can go. Its happening.

CG7

February 01, 2011, 08:28:07 AM
I'll be there at 9. With at least my son, and hopefully a few more.

north miami

February 01, 2011, 09:25:07 AM

North Murami here- relative lack of participation not due to lack of interest but rather schedule.
Jax Boat show this weekend,then Miami Boat Show the following.

Some time soon too perhaps stage a Fishweir Creek run.

                                 **** We All Deserve A Good Paddling ****

Noone

February 01, 2011, 01:10:28 PM
Are you going to focus on the Creek from Noone's landing to the river, or continue through confederate and Klutho parks?  We've been involved in some cleanups there in the past.  Either way, we'd be up for helping with future cleanups.

Miss Fixit, Glad to have you on board. I emailed councilman Gaffney about this and his office has put me in touch with the cities Clean it up Green it up. and was wondering if the SOS would want to be the sponsor group. I've got a call in to Mrs. Harrell and this cleanup will focus on Hogans Creek from Beaver and Washington to the river near Duval st. This would also qualify as community service hours for students.

I'd be more than happy to help SOS with a future cleanup through Confederate and Klutho parks.   I'm in Dist. 4 and just wanted to throw that out there.

Noone

February 01, 2011, 01:15:53 PM
CG7, Looking forward to seeing you again and meeting your son too. That was a fun day. We'll do the TU one of these days.

NM, we'll get out there and paddle our butts off on Fishweir Creek. Looking forward to some real backwater tours on that Waterway.

Noone

February 15, 2011, 06:36:24 AM
Chamber of Commerce  weather this week. So who wants to make a scene on the Waterway in our Downtown on the St. Johns River our American Heritage River?

The trip is about an hour. Open to all elected officials and those candidates running in the spring elections, Also open to anyone in the print media in Duval county and outside of Duval county, Also open to any of the civic council boys and anyone that is participating in the current JCCI study Recession, Recovery and Beyond that will be released to the people of Jacksonville in the coming months.

So who wants to experience this urban Waterway that will continue to be brought to the attention of the commissioners of FIND Florida Inland Navigation District representing the east coast of the state of Florida?

So who wants to experience this urban Waterway that will continue to be elevated as a destination especially in light of the SJRA and their goal to seek a state designation of a Blueway Paddling Trail for the entire St. Johns River our American Heritage River?

Who just wants to go out and just have some exercise and fun?

Call me 904-434-0839

Capt. Zissou and anyone else on this forum if you also want to see this urban Waterway we will Make it Happen



















JaxNative68

February 15, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
I would love to join you folks for some urban paddling, but my saturday mornings are booked with youth football and baseball right now.  I live at the beach and have only paddled the ocean waves and intracoastal backwaters.

Do you guys every venture on the urban waterways on sunday?  Also I should add that I'm a whimp and am waiting for warmer weather.

Noone

February 15, 2011, 10:03:30 PM
JN, we'll do it on a Sunday. I've never paddled in the ocean. I'm thinking then that you could handle going under the Times Union.

Lets make it happen.

Noone

February 17, 2011, 07:51:34 PM
Making a scene Dowtown today on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District and total yet to be voted on boundary of a total takeover of the Entertainment District by a yet to be voted on and approved DIA was myself and CityLife.

What a great day to experience an urban Waterway. CityLife and I caught the outgoing tide at Hogans Creek and paddled out to the dense fog that was blanketing Downtown.

After paddling back and the shopping cart depth meter showing that we still had plenty of water to make back against the tide we decided to head over top RCB and then paddle under the TU.
Once we got over to the RCB the fog seemed even thicker.

With lunch time nearing and the craving for a sausage dog with the slaw and onions we headed up to Roberts Eatery at Evergreen and 26Th. He bounces between there and 8Th and Ionia.

After a quick energy boost it was my turn to get schooled on the sites and history of Springfield. CityLife took me to spots that literally I have never been to in this city. You can truly appreciate more what was Hogans Creek and the role that it played in Jacksonville's history. I truly want to learn more.

Well anyway who's next to paddle Hogans Creek or the sportier McCoys Creek under the Times Union? Elected officials and those running in the spring elections go to the front of the line. Anyone outside the Media of Jacksonville also gets to priority.

Its happening. Keep score.

Noone

February 22, 2011, 02:21:04 PM
Who's next? Slots are filling up. Elected officials and those running in the spring elections go to the front of the line. Any media outside of Duval county also gets top priority. Its happening.

PatODo

February 23, 2011, 09:11:19 AM
I took my dad out yesterday...it was his first time down the creek.  We had a good morning.  The tide was coming in so we had a pretty easy paddle both ways. He enjoyed the unique perspective on downtown.  There's still a lot more to clean-up!  Ill see you out there, Noone, for more kayak or cleanup adventures.  I'd really like to get out to McCoys, maybe Saturday morning. High tide is around 7:30.

Noone

February 26, 2011, 06:11:28 AM
Campaign Promise made and Campaign Promise kept. Friday afternoon I had the distinct pleasure of paddling an urban Waterway in the heart of Downtown Jacksonville with who I hope will be the next At-Large Group 5 Jacksonville city council member Michelle Tappouni.

It was a falling tide and when we met there was a break in the weather. Just a 1/2 hour earlier the wind was gusting and the clouds were not bright and cheerful. Remember its Florida and mother nature was now telling us that we could now play on the water. So standing on the bank and getting ready to launch the kayak Michelle exclaims "Theres a turtle". This spirit of adventure lasted the whole trip. And reinforces to me that she will be a great representative for the people of Jacksonville in so many ways and with so many issues.

Going with the falling tide allowed for a relaxed paddle out to our beautiful river. A couple hundred yards and a great Blue Heron is taking off from the bank and maneuvering upward between the narrow passage of tree limbs to finally make it above the canopy to fly unobstructed on its way.

Michelle as well as anyone else can experience this piece of our city's history and then realize that this opportunity needs to happen not only on Hogans Creek but other Waterways throughout our city.

As we made our way past my shopping cart depth chart with one wheel fully exposed I realized that we still had a little time before it would turn into a sportier trip back. We exited under the Bay St. Bridge and popped out into our St. Johns River our American Heritage River. We took a moment just to gather it all in and share a big" What If?" as our city is getting to move forward.

As we made our way back and saying hello to people who were walking along the roads above us and seeing the planes circling the stadium with their banners you are left with a feeling that we too are a part of this vibrancy that is wanting to be achieved. But instead of being on land or in the air. Were on water.

Michelle Tappouni I believe in my heart that you are going to make it happen for the people of Jacksonville.

Who's next?

 

Noone

March 02, 2011, 07:53:11 AM
Whos next? 21 days out and who wants to be part of Jacksonville's Maritime history that will happen on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District. Lets paddle Hogans Creek Sat. morning at 8:30 be done at 9:30 then go to the history making voyage of Mayor Peyton arriving by boat at the floating dock (pocket pier) at RAM Riverside Arts Market. Those running in the Spring election go to the front of the line. Its happening.

JaxNative68

March 02, 2011, 04:52:34 PM
I could possibly be in for the paddle portion of this offer this upcoming Saturday morning.

Noone

March 05, 2011, 07:35:34 AM
Today Mayor Peyton is making Maritime history in our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District when he officially opens the floating dock at RAM which will provide another opportunity for access to our River.

In an hour our own version of Maritime history will be occurring as we show the city the opportunity to paddle Hogans Creek and Make our own scene Downtown. Bringing a couple of kayaks forashort paddle then heading over to RAM to celebrate with everyone else this positive benefit not only for the people of Jacksonville but our country too.

Are we ready to say Visit Jacksonville!

Noone

March 06, 2011, 02:50:49 AM
Yesterday, Sharing a piece of Maritime history that happened on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River was JaxNative, Field and myself.

I thought it was Billy as Field and I were standing there and I said here comes a yellow Kayak and its a sit on top. Well two things.

1. It wasn't Billy but JaxNative and what a fantastic opportunity to meet someone else and to share in this special day in Jacksonville on an urban Waterway.
2. Billy, This means that we still haven't met and I'm looking forward to the day that we also paddle this Waterway Destination in our Downtown.

As JaxNative was unloading his kayak we were listening to Mike Hogan on the Just Fishing Show on 930am with Capt. Rick Ryals, Roger Walker, and John Botko. Our River and access to it is a huge campaign issue. This was just an added bonus to the start of our paddle on a beautiful Sat. morning.

JaxNative usually kayaks and fishes in the ocean. So this was the proverbial piece of cake. It was an incoming tide a  blue heron is flushed from the bank as we make our way out to the river. An easy paddle as we continue by some urban campers who are just getting up.

We are moving at a good clip because we also want to make it back for the opening ceremonies at RAM. I point out to JaxNative all the city land adjacent to the creek. We go past the site that will be the location for the March 19Th citywide cleanup and then everyone will head over to RAM. The 19Th will be a high tide and if anyone has a kayak small john boat, gheenoe, what an opportunity to think about it now and show the city and the community that this area of Downtown can be accessed immediately. Its happening.

We pop out into the river at about the same time an armada of ships are making there way to join Mayor Peyton in the floating dock ceremony at RAM.

It was a short trip. Field and I went over to RAM and participated as witnesses to a piece of Jacksonville's Maritime history.

JaxNative I can't wait to do it again with you and I'll bring my fishing pole. Man, I know you were ready to go all day. But lets really plan on it and do it.

So Who's next?    

 

 

billy

March 06, 2011, 04:25:52 PM
I put in at 11:00 am yesterday, at your launch spot, and then parked my rental minivan on Beaver.
Setting up was very easy. I paddled out to the Shipyard basin, and then turned around and came back.
Although I was somewhat familiar with the area from streetside views, and maps, I was very impressive with what I saw on the (short) trip, as far as the riparian landscape, flora, fauna and water quality.
 Did not strike the shopping cart undr the steel pedestrian bridge. Three gutter punkish ( or really bad Eagle Scouts)lads were camping next to the Union 700 property, and made some Deliverance jokes on my way back  My kayak is reddish-orange. I ran down to RAM earlier and checked out the dock.

Noone

March 07, 2011, 05:05:24 AM
Billy, Glad that you got to paddle it and see it for yourself. Just sorry that I didn't share it with you. Its Happening.

One of the biggest city council and Mayoral campaign issues. 8 days out from the Spring elections. Billy, did you see the Florida Times Union story about the Palms Fish Camp? Its a Preservartion Park Project. Who gets the credit for that disaster?

Hogan Creek, McCoys Creek, 680' Bay Street Pier Park, Preservation Parks. Floating docks at Warefront Public Access street ends. If you think for one second that we are getting more access you are wrong.

Be concerned. Keep score.

Billy, Still can't wait to meet you.

Who's next? 

Noone

March 10, 2011, 01:06:52 PM
Another campaign Promise made and campaign Promise kept.

In less than 5 hours one of the biggest political hobnobs in Jacksonville's history will be taking place in what we all hope will be our exciting and vibrant Downtown at the Hyatt.

Everyone and especially the media needs to interview and talk to the newest future city council member that wants to experience first hand our St. Johns River our American Heritage River and that is Jill Dame Jacksonville city council candidate running in District 14. I'm serious everyone needs to ask her. How did you like paddling Hogans Creek?

She was on time and met her along with her husband Peter and we just immediately took advantage of the perfect weather conditions. It was an incoming tide and with the lush green vegetation along with the trees combined to make for a more picturesque paddle.

It wasn't long before what seems to be the resident blue heron was flushed from its bankside perch and flew forward towards the River.

We were both commenting on the potential. I showed her all the available parking that is right there. Shared with her the citywide cleanup that will be taking place March 19 behind the Jacksonville Historical Society.

Her husband Peter is now at the Pedestrian bridge taking pictures as we paddle underneath. I point out the shopping cart depth chart and one wheel is exposed but the tide is coming in so we are in great shape.

I spot a plover hovering above the water as it is going along the banks from rock to rock. The wind is starting to pick up as we go under Bay St. then pop out into the St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

The paddle back was swift going with the current. The wheel on the shopping cart depth chart was now 1/2 way exposed. Peter was right there on our return still taking pictures.

What a great trip. After the paddle I asked them if they wanted to get a bite to eat at Roberts Eatery and they were game. We went up to 26Th and Evergreen and had a delightful bite to eat.

Bring your campaign signs to Robert's because he is hanging them up.

If I was in District 14 I'd be voting for Jill Dame. She will Make it Happen.

So who's next in experiencing an urban Waterway?

Elected officials. Those running in the spring elections go to the front of the line. Anybody in the news media. Elected officials outside of Duval county.

Daniel O'Byrne and councilman Joost.
Tera Meeks.
Terry Lorince

Access is an issue.

Be concerned and keep score.   

ElectJill

March 10, 2011, 02:19:53 PM
Hogans Creek paddling with Noone was great!  Thank you so much for introducing me to this hidden treasure - just waiting to be discovered. With a little work this would be a great place for folks to access the St. Johns.

Also thanks for the intro to Robert's Eatery. 

I wish that I could be there for the clean up on March 19 and hope that there will be another one soon.

Thank you for all that you do to keep waterway issues in the forefront. :)

stephendare

March 10, 2011, 02:30:14 PM
Hogans Creek paddling with Noone was great!  Thank you so much for introducing me to this hidden treasure - just waiting to be discovered. With a little work this would be a great place for folks to access the St. Johns.

Also thanks for the intro to Robert's Eatery. 

I wish that I could be there for the clean up on March 19 and hope that there will be another one soon.

Thank you for all that you do to keep waterway issues in the forefront. :)

Welcome to the site, Jill!  What a pleasure to have you here online!

ElectJill

March 10, 2011, 02:43:58 PM
Thanks Stephen.  I have enjoyed reading - it was time to sign up!

votetappouni

March 11, 2011, 10:31:03 AM
Hogans Creek paddling with Noone was great!  Thank you so much for introducing me to this hidden treasure - just waiting to be discovered. With a little work this would be a great place for folks to access the St. Johns.

Also thanks for the intro to Robert's Eatery. 

I wish that I could be there for the clean up on March 19 and hope that there will be another one soon.

Thank you for all that you do to keep waterway issues in the forefront. :)
Jill-
Welcome to the Candidates Kayaking Club!
Michelle

north miami

March 11, 2011, 01:11:39 PM

In a field of great District 14 candidates I found Jill Dame to be particularly astute on river and tributary matters along with a host of other qualifications, attributes.

                                   Elect Jill Dame!

Noone

March 15, 2011, 10:32:52 AM
Who's next?

Congratulations to Marc, Michelle, Jill

Fantastic tides in the morning leading up to the city wide River Celebration March 19Th especially at Hogans Creek behind the Jacksonville Historical Society.

Elected officials and those running in the spring elections go to the front of the line. Any news media outlet outside of Duval County.

Special shout out to Patricia Northey, Volusia County and Chair of thr St. Johns River Alliance and an update on 2010-856 and the impact of this legislation on a potential state designation of a paddling trail.

Tera Meeks.
Terry Lorince
Daniel O'Byrne and Stephen Joost
Paul Anderson

Anyone on The Jacksonville Civic Council Creek Committee give me a call
904-434-0839
If we have to we'll anchor up the yacht and paddle in. I'm serious.

Not only a local issue but a state issue.

Be concerned and keep score.

Noone

March 29, 2011, 08:59:23 PM
Show and Tell.

That is what happened this morning when I had the pleasure of sharing a Downtown jewel of an urban waterway in Dist.7 with city council candidate for District 14 Jim Love.

Jim had called the day before to move the start time up. No problem. It was early. Jim arrived on time and with an eagerness in his eye that he wanted to see for himself what will continue to grow and become not only a local issue right now but after May a statewide reality check as it relates to economic opportunity and access to our Waterways.

The tides were perfect. It was a high tide and the water was above the grass line so we were able to slip in and have a pleasent launch. Slight wind with overcast skies in this sheltered creek in the early morning with the canopy becoming denser with the green vegetation was like opening the morning blinds and allowing the light to slowly penetrate in.

It had the feeling of a revelry paddle as we made our way out to our ST. Johns River our American Heritage River. The smell of a smouldering overnight fire.  Again the birds in the morning rookery being pushed toward the Maxwell House Plant. There was still floating debris but the visual repulsion of what it had been can only be truly appreciated by those who have been participating over the months to clean it up.

As we rounded the bend and I pointed out the city property Jim became adamant about how this area needs to be opened up and used now. I couldn't agree more. Again my hats off to all those who have participated especially in the March 19 River Celebration behind the Jacksonville Historical building because underneath that FDOT overpass and at a high tide it had a post card look to that site.  

We continued on and had to look hard to see the shopping cart depth meter because the wheel was a good 5-6 inches below the water. ( I'll admit. I'm still excited that's it's still there.) We were in great shape. And the tire is still hanging in the tree. As soon as we hit the rocky terrain we spot a plover.

We continue to make our way out to the river and the tide has just started to make the gradual reverse of its flow. This was apparent because  we were greeted by a flock of seagulls that were flying all around us and it was because a man had thrown slices from a loaf of bread and we were paddling through the middle of it. It made for a nice entry into the river.

The conditions were good and we paddled out and I showed Jim the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier and imagine if it was opened now we could paddle down get out of the kayak, read the paper get a cup of coffee and share a vibrancy that could happen right now. Instead there is no access so we turned around and made our way back through the flock of seagulls that were still congregating above the water and scouring for the floating pieces of bread. We said a good morning to the man who was obviously enjoying a morning ritual that I'm sure that he has done before and taking a moment to catch our Downtown as its waking up and the sound that is being heard are the seagulls not behind a shrimp boat but surrounding us as we paddled through. That was special.

Going back the tide has made the change the shopping cart depth chart wheel is still inches below the surface. People are up.  WE are standing on the bank and the blue Heron flys up right across from us on the other bank. His stature is diminished because of the tall grassy vegetation is up around his body. We  then talk about the "What IFS" Jim does listen. I know that I could have talked and showed him reports and studies for hours. Jim is fired up. Where is the passion in the current city council members especially in Dist.4 and 7?

Jim, My hats off to you for wanting to make it happen and to see for yourself an issue that very shortly may be elevated throughout the state of Florida.

Jim's yard sign is hanging at Roberts Campaign Headquarters 904-485-0273 next to Jill's. That's OK My Hogan sign is hanging next to Brown. Had the sausage dog with the slaw, onions, and a coke. I'm good. Talk to Robert about 2010-856.

So Who' next?

Anybody with the Chamber of Commerce and Show and Tell?

Anybody in the May elections go to the front of the line.

Any Board member of the St. Johns River Alliance.

Any Board member of the St. Johns Riverkeeper.
 
Anybody in the news media.

Any governmental body outside of Duval county that will want monetary assistance in raising FIND matching dollars that will assist your community in Public Access to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River that will also create economic opportunity and jobs gets top priority too.  
  

Noone

April 02, 2011, 05:56:03 PM
Show and Tell

Making a Chamber of Commerce scene on an urban Waterway in the heart of our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District was Dist.7 owner and  entrepreneur of Robert's Eatery was Robert himself.

After listening to some of the morning fishing shows on the radio and the frustration and disappointment that they were expressing about how our city doesn't promote our Waterways I was fired up and wanted to echo those same frustrations. Robert has been mentioning for some time that he wanted to see this jewel of a Waterway himself especially after Marc McCollough a former candidate for Dist. 7 had seen it for himself months ago. So I called Robert 904-485-0273 and we were on the water within an hour and a half. That is how fast we made it happen.

Today's paddle was special for me on a number of fronts.

1st) I just received my order of Fried Chicken Nuts (not really....it's gourmet peanut candy) from our own Pearl. I hope that everyone gets an order in at friedchickennuts.com You go girl.

2ND) I was sharing the day with Robert who along with I will be effected by 2010-856 in its present state without any amendments.

So today's paddle started out with tastetesting Pearls Fried Chicken Nuts. They are GOOD!!! I downed almost half the bag before we even got on the water. I also brought a couple of fishing poles.

The tide was already making the turn out. It was a beautiful calm late morning the creek was glass. It was apparent that after all the heavy rains that the debris just flows into the creek. Unfortunately we weren't a 100 yards in and there is a new Winn Dixie shopping cart in the water.

The trip out was pleasent and Robert would comment about the potential. There were homeless on both sides of the banks in the usual areas. Its all over Jacksonville. We continued to enjoy the quiet paddle toward the Maxwell House plant and Robert would say that this is what Jill Dame saw. I said yes and Jim Love, Michelle Tappouni, Marc McCollough and so many others that aren't running for office. And so many more will also see it.

We made our way past the shopping cart depth meter and a wheel was 1/4 exposed. The tide was ripping out so we didn't have a lot of time left. We continued on and popped out into the river. We ventured out a couple of 100 yards and took in the skyline of our Downtown. There was a strong aroma of coffee and we entered back up into the creek and anchored up as the coffee engaged our senses. Also I broke out the fishing pole and put a fiddler crab on a jig head and just tossed it out there. This was also a good time to break out and finish off the rest of the Fried Chicken Nuts. We didn't fish long and wanted to get back before the water ran out of the creek and the fun factor diminishes unless your part of team Skiles. LOL. Doug I do owe you and Jacob a sausage dog and coke at Robert's.

We made the trip back with the shopping cart depth meter and the wheel 3/4 exposed. For Robert and all of us that have visited him over the months and when the conversation turns to Hogans Creek we will all be shaking our heads and asking why isn't anything happening.

Anyone running for office in the May elections call Robert at Roberts Campaign headquarters and he will proudly hang your yard sign on his tent. At-Large?

All I've got to say is "Who's Next?"     
   

ElectJill

April 02, 2011, 07:01:18 PM
Noone:
I'm delighted that you got Robert out on the water and had such a great day. The weather today was perfect. You are truly an ambassador for Hogan's Creek.  Thank you. :)

Noone

April 04, 2011, 07:32:41 AM
Jill,
Thanks for the kind words. He does ask about you. But do call first. 904-485-0273. I hope that any At-Large candidates in the May 17 will bring their yard sign to be hung at Robert's Campaign Headquarters. We are talking about the issues and 2010-856 is an active piece of legislation. Ask Robert about Hogans Creek he has had the weekend to reflect on it as have many of us.

What needs to happen?

Who's next to see Hogans Creek for themselves?

Noone

April 22, 2011, 05:17:09 PM
To preserve, protect, promote, restore and celebrate the St. Johns River as an American Heritage River in recognition of its ecological, historic, economic, recreational and cultural significance, so that the PUBLIC may gain a greater appreciation and understanding of the Rivers importance to the Quality of Life for current and future generations is the mission statement of the St. Johns River Alliance.

Today I had the distinct pleasure of sharing an urban waterway tributary that leads to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River with Dist. 1 city council candidate Lindsey Brock. Rock with Brock it was an awesome trip.

We started by meeting behind the fire station on Washington and Beaver and just looking at the clarity of the water as the floor of the sandy or silted bottom was filling with water. And its clean because of the monumental efforts of the metjax team that made it happen. (Pats on the back to all of you) It was an incoming tide. The vastness of this flat reflective sand with the overhanging sun provides a view of the incoming fish and crabs that adds to the excitement that this is a thriving ecosystem that will only get better as everyone will be allowed to participate. After seeing schools of baitfish and blue crabs dancing along the sandy bottom we took off to Roberts Eatery. 904-485-0273. My only question is who will be the 1st At Large Jacksonville city council candidate that will have their yard sign hanging on his tent. It has to represent votes. It just has too. In some races that may be all it takes to get my vote.

The time spent at Robert's was so special. We didn't need to rush because we started our trip with the incoming tide so we knew it was like waiting for the bathtub to fill up before we got in. Robert has experienced Hogans Creek so when he asked if we had finished and told him that we haven't started yet he shared with Lindsey that it would be fun and it was.

When we returned the water was just right. The paddle out was stealth. It was obvious right away as an ibis, egret, or heron (Need to get the bird book out) dropped a bomb just off our port side.  As we continue to paddle its almost impossible to escape the continuous visual debris fields of floating garbage.

In past trips I saw more bird activity but in this trip the water was the center of excitement. Lindsey who has a lot of experience in river issues and that's a plus in my book was commenting on the bait fish and the no ticable swirls in the water.

I didn't mention this before but I'll mention it now there is a big mulberry tree which Lindsey identified and when I was with Robert a few weeks back that were coming into bloom. So anyway we are approaching the shopping cart depth meter gauge and we have one wheel exposed with an incoming tide and an added bonus is that there are mulberry trees on both sides as you approach this part of Hogans. I was so excited about the mulberry trees that I didn't notice if the tire was still in the tree.

We continue out and Lindsey just comments on the Maxwell House plant and of coarse we are just smelling the aroma that is permeating our space on the water.

We pop out into the River and make our way out to the point that you can not only see our Downtown but the Promised 680'Downtown Public Pier. Of coarse that's just me sharing my fears of not being allowed to participate.

The trip back going with the tide and the shopping cart depth chart still showing the wheel now 1/4 exposed made for a nice paddle. The baitfish, the shrimp, the swirls is making this more of a potential fishing report thread then a sightseeing paddle.

Lindsey Brock is an amazing individual that has made things happen in his District. Heck with the city council race I want to kayak Hogans Creek with Lindsey again and see if we catch any fish.

So who's next?

 



Noone

April 29, 2011, 06:45:28 PM
In the world today across the pond was the Royal Wedding of William and Kate. In Jacksonville paddling Hogans Creek an urban Waterway within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District was myself and sharing this adventure was the Executive Director of the Jacksonville Civic Council, Don Shea.

Don was there before me and was ready to go. The weather was breaking at the right time for our trip to be a success. I just want to inject right now our thoughts and prayers with all the families who lost loved one with the storms that ravaged the southeast. The overcast clouds that were associated with that storm system were clearing out and the winds were diminishing.

It was an outgoing tide and the birds were moving early primarily because we were going at a pretty good clip and they knew we were coming. We swiftly moved past some of the campsites and the garbage that was starting to collect after the recent rains was more pronounced. I was pointing to Don some of the potential access points that could open this waterway immediately.

We made our way past the shopping cart depth meter chart and both wheels were fully exposed. I mentioned to Don if funding is needed to open this waterway can you imagine the naming rights for that shopping cart. We both enjoyed a good laugh.

Continuing on, we paddled adjacent to  the Maxwell House plant and did enjoy the smell of the morning aroma of coffee. when we popped out into our St. Johns River our American Heritage River the water had a slight chop. the outgoing tide allowed for a floating break that just carried us out to visually see what can be a vibrant piece of our Downtown. If you are allowed to participate. Yes, the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier was in view

The current is continually moving. We see a big catamaran heading north. All of a sudden some nice gusts are greeting us as we make our way back. Its still an outgoing tide we are paddling hard and as we make our way to the shopping cart depth meter chart the wheels are exposed. I show Don the tire that is hanging in the Mulberry tree.   

My hats off to Don for taking the time to see for himself as have so many others what should be on the short list of things that need to happen so we can tell everyone to "Visit Jacksonville."

Who's next?

Noone

May 02, 2011, 06:11:40 PM
Today I saw the gator of Hogans Creek. He is definately there. After attending the committee meetings and speaking with Gaffney and Redman you just have to feel so sorry for the people of Jacksonville. The Public trust has just been totally crushed.

It was a very low tide and more of a visual exploration of looking at potential kayak launches that could open immediately right now regardless of who the next Mayor of Jacksonville is. A plumbing company was working on the building up at Beaver and Washington. Its happening.

Continue to be concerned and keep score.



Noone

May 05, 2011, 08:24:27 PM
In less than 24 hours after attending a meeting called Downtown in-depth being put on by ULI North Florida & Downtown Vision, Inc one of the keynote speakers who was an inspiration to me with his responses was now checking the depth of Hogans Creek as we enjoyed a paddle on our urban waterway in the heart of our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District.

Tom Chatmon Jr. a former Jacksonville resident and successful businessman is the current Executive Director of the Orlando Downtown Development Board. I met Tom at the Omni and we were off. As soon as I got to Beaver St. is was then a straight shot to an urban waterway destination. We put in at Washington and Beaver right behind the fire station and police station. Its private property but I couldn't wait to show him the potential Public Access points.

The tidal conditions were perfect. Incoming tide. no humidity. Tom situated his 6'6" frame into the tandem kayak and we were off. It seemed that the herons were around us  right in the beginning and the whole trip. It was a relaxed paddle out and the lush green vegetation and canopy seemed to balance the floating garbage that was a constant silent reminder as we (Jacksonville) continue to try and put our best foot forward.

The sun was shining and we are just making our way out to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River. As our slow paddle catches the activity on both sides of the banks the homeless population is still apparent. We comment on one spot and it must have been laundry day because the clothes were hanging in the bushes. We continue on watching the water activate with life and energy.

I'm showing Tom the fence line that is the barrier to all the parking that you could possibly hope for. Under the FDOT overpass and looking up from the creek is the Jacksonville Historical Society and the old St. Lukes hospital next to the casket factory. We pause and do some what ifs.  At this part of the paddle the lush vegetation is replaced with the industrial openness of concrete shorelines.

We make our way past the shopping cart depth meter chart and we have one wheel fully exposed and another is just 1/4 from going under. The tide is coming in so we are in great shape. I mentioned to Tom that when I took Don Shea I said "Don if we need funding for this we can sell the naming rights to that shopping cart." Tom was laughing and I was laughing again too.

So here is the highlight of the paddle. We are approaching the Maxwell House Plant and there is a gator off our starboard side sliding into the water. WOW. And it was the little one not the bigger one that I saw a couple of days earlier.

We continue on and are going under Bay St. and pop out into our vibrant Downtown. We make our way out to where you can see the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier. At the same time here comes the River Taxi and its heading to the stop by the Chart House almost on cue. I just point out from our vantage point that the taxi can then just swing out and drop off passengers at the pier and you have just immediately connected the Southbank with the Northbank. That was done for Super Bowl XXXIX.

We make our way back and we are talking to some of the workers that are at the Maxwell Plant and they not only mention the gator but just tell us if we were an hour sooner we may have been able to see a manatee. That would have been awesome.

We wished them a good day and just enjoyed the paddle back. I'm so excited that Tom took the time to see for himself and listen to a concern from a citizen that  an activity that we just shared could be shared by all.

Who's next?    

Noone

May 16, 2011, 08:54:18 AM
Making a scene on a Downtown urban Waterway destination which is our St. Johns River our American Heritage River destination within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District in Dist. 7 which leads to historic Springfield was ME. No One.

After my last paddle and sharing a fantastic informative, entertaining, visual, stimulating, challenging, political, Public/Private, engaging, historic, local, international, everlasting, brief kayak paddle with Tom Chatmon Jr the Executive Director with the Orlando Development Board I wanted to desperately get back on Hogans Creek and report back to the citizens of Jacksonville, the people of the world and report back on why we want to say

"Visit Jacksonville"
  Or  Don't Visit Jacksonville." 

Tides were perfect in the morning and this excursion started about 9:30 am. Instead of starting at Beaver and Washington st. This trip utilized what should be as our community moves forward a fantastic partnership with the Jacksonville Historical Society. An identifiable strip of access allowed for a cool launch location. As I was pulling in a homeless camp was immediately visual across the other side. Two JSO police cars were parked close by. I unloaded my kayak and fishing poles and before I started my trip I broke out a bag of  Fried Chicken Nuts (not really...its gourmet peanut candy) Its made by our own Jacksonville treasure. Pearl-YOU ROCK! Order a bag. I got a case.  Has anyone visited Roberts Eatery?

Before I embark on my paddle I walked up to the two police officers and told them of my plans. The first response was did I have my tetanus shot? "Yes" was my response back but the real reason that I wanted to get out there was to see if the wildlife is active and prevalent so we as a community can market our vibrant Downtown to the world. I wanted to see a manatee and gator.

It was an out going tide. Nice light breezes. I brought a couple of fishing poles and had some dead shrimp. Secretly I'm preparing for the Field fishing tournament challenge. Putting in at this location makes for a short paddle out to the river. I pass the homeless site where there was a congregation of people standing there when I arrived but were now gone. A couple of 100 yards up was the shopping cart depth meter chart completely under water. I'm in good shape.

At this part of the River you are flanked by Kraft Foods and the Maxwell House Plant. Its private property and unless you are in a watercraft you would then be trespassing if you then stood on land. This part of the Creek opens to a nice pond flanked by chunks of concrete that creates its own ecological landscape.

Upon entering this space I immediately had the feeling that I was entering an ambush. At first I thought it was JSO. On the bridge with binoculars was a blue uniform. I encountered two others on the parking lot side of Kraft. Someone yells to me that there is a 10' gator in there. Cool. I haven't seen it. I can see a 4 footer maybe 5'. I anchor up and I'm talking to one of the security guards. I'm realizing that its not JSO but probably the security for the plant. There is a cane pole with a piece of chicken suspended above the water with a hook and line attached to a pipe. A permit has been issued to get this gator.

I'm glad that I was doing this trip solo. In total contrast to the previous trips with Tom Chatmon Jr. from Orlando, Don Shea, Executive Director, of the Jacksonville Civic Council. Jill Dame, and Jim Love both candidates for Dist.14, Lyndsey Brock, Dist.1, Michelle Tappouni and Marc McCollough both former city council candidates.

Lets literally kill this potential tourist attraction so I continued on and decided to anchor up under Bay St. and see if I could catch a fish. Under this shaded and protective structure I'm just watching the active boat traffic that is passing north and south in the river. I'm eating more of my Fried Chicken Nuts. They are GOOD! I was there about 10 minutes and the piercing of the mirror slick calm of the water surface and heading into Hogans Creek is a Manatee. The broad nose and face of this stealth sea cow had cut through the surface about 8 feet off my port side. The whiskered face is still out of the water getting a good breath and the back swell indicated that it wasn't a real big one. I'm just saying how cool is this.

I pull up my anchor and poles. And I wanted to follow it back in. I get back to the pond where the gator is and there is the manatee again breaking the surface for a breath of air. WOW! The cane pole is just there to catch this nuisance gator. (Yeah Right!)   

"TOURISM" ?

I've had enough. I paddle past the 4' gator that is on a concrete chunk just 10' from my port side. I continue on The shopping cart depth meter chart is showing two wheels exposed. The tire is still in the Mulberry tree. Maybe this is what we truly want to market about our Downtown. I arrive at the  the FDOT launch site. I get out and the two JSO officers are still there. I go up and give them a report. I didn't catch any fish but I did see a gator and manatee. Really! Really! I wished them a good day. Very light clean up and I'm taking it back to the house.

As soon as I got inside I was on the phone with FWC and a nuisance gator permit had been issued. It is perfectly legal.

My question would be how many nuisance gator permits have been issued for Maxwell House over the years?

Who's next.

Any media outlet out Duval county gets top priority.

Any print media outside of Duval County call me 904-721-3321 that's my home number.

Bativac- This is another reason why I'm voting Mike Hogan for Mayor.

Be concerned, keep score.

stephendare

May 16, 2011, 08:58:22 AM
Wow, noone.

Using this subject to endorse voting for your tea party candidate, kind of robs you of much credibility on the subject.  I agree with Chris on this one.

You want your anti government candidate in there, you just want him to show good government to your special pet project.  To hell with the rest of us, right?

Well to hell with your project too man.

If Mike Hogan gets elected, its going to be sad to watch all your fellow travellers actively campaign against preserving and highlighting the waterways.

It will be no more than you or the city deserves I suppose.

JaxNative68

May 16, 2011, 06:18:13 PM
 There is no reason to be so malicious in your response to Noone just because he does not have the same political view as yourself during the current election.  I know you get very offended and turned off by people whom don’t agree with your own opinions, but take your horse blinders off - the last time I checked, the first amendment has not been repealed from our Constitution.  Your disparaging comments reflect poorly on the candidate you currently endorse.  If you truly respect him, speak as though he is involved in your public conversations.

Noone

June 10, 2011, 08:38:01 AM
Making a scene on a Downtown Urban Waterway Destination within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District was another proponent of River Access to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River and a supporter of the JMM Aaron Ricker.

Recent posts on this forum and Aaron's call to Action from a request for groundswell support  to assist in a neighborhood project in giving back to the community is the domino reason why we made it happen on Hogans Creek yesterday.

There is an infectious, sustained prolonged fever, a pit in the stomach and pangs of starvation, plague like stretches of creek that is an Urban disaster zone that is a draw for those who will continue to resuscitate this Waterway Destination.

When Aaron arrived and before we even picked up the kayak I had already ate 1/2 a bag of Fried Chicken Nuts (not really.... its gourmet peanut candy) There GOOD! Shared some with Aaron and we were off. Before we even got to the creek we stopped at the Streetcar pole? old railroad yard light? Whatever it is were excited.

Underneath the FDOT overpass in the shaded shelter and looking at the vastness of all the parking that we are surrounded by we prepare to embark on another exciting journey into an always changing ecological and urban waterway discovery. The tide was still heading out and it was very low. I pointed to Aaron about 300 yards to the north an Oak tree with over hanging limbs and that there is a nesting rookery right there with two green heron chicks. We'll check that out on our return trip.

We caught this waterway as its flow was filtering back to the main artery which is the 310 miles of our St. Johns River. The water clarity was good and the debris field on the bottom was the most pronounced  that I have seen. We made our way past the shopping cart meter depth chart and it was almost unrecognizable because of that recent rain the leaves, sticks, and other debris gave it a curvature that it looked like a beaver mound instead of what it really was. As we made our way through the Maxwell House Plant there is a sandbar that is created and in the future I'd like to picnic at that spot. Imagine calling for delivery?

We continue on and we are just taken in by the beauty that surrounds you. The water is calm. The outgoing tide is like you are on the standing conveyor belt at the airport and the history of Maxwell House is in your senses as you drift by.

We encounter another sandbar that is occupied with another wading bird. Need to identify that one. Shout out to Jean Schubert (We need to kayak Hogans Creek.)

We are under Bay St. bridge and just glide out into the St. Johns River. We paddle out and are able to see and I share the concerns of the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier. Its about noontime and I'm telling Aaron that if you watch WJXT in the morning news broadcast, noon and night that they pan the river. At this very moment we may be part of their broadcast. The only other boat that was moving was the river taxi as it was leaving the Chart House location.

On the way back in we encounter a man that informed us that if we were just an hour earlier we would have seen a manatee and a calf existing the creek. I believe him. He also shared with us that they got the gator that was in the creek. According to my email to and from FWC it was 6.5'

We are now catching the incoming tide and the sandbar that was by the Bay St. bridge is covered with a couple of inches of new flowing water. The larger sandbar that is hidden from public view is still expansive but narrowing. The baitfish are everywhere. We make our way up to the shopping cart meter depth chart both wheels fully exposed and there is another foot before you even hit the first wheel. The bicycle tire is still in the Mulberry tree. People will want to VISIT JACKSONVILLE just to see these two tourist attractions.

With an overhead bright sun and the inflow of water the reflections that allow for a clarity in this window of opportunity because the depth of the creek is still shallow. At the same time the muddy banks are blanketted with fiddler crabs by the thousands.  

We are now floating past our original starting point. the water level and now catching the incoming tide has made for an effortless opportunity just to float by and point out to anyone why you would not only want to VISIT JACKSONVILLE but visit this urban waterway destination.

As we approach the rookery the baby green herons have grown considerably. To have watched them and to have shared them with other visitors besides Aaron over the weeks has been to say the very least rewarding and exciting. The initial puffs of feathery plumes in a stick basket that is a nest. To two emerging chicks with their feather plumes being slowly replaced by more permanent feathers and just maintaining their balance on the limbs that are just within the perimeters of the nest that they are not ready to leave from their sight. Yesterday with Aaron as we approached this tree the chicks were still there but the baby plumage was gone and now instead of just moving and hiding in the immediate branches that were above the nest they are now using the whole tree. What a treat.

We continued on and the fiddlers on both sides of the banks retreated in unison as we continued up toward Washington and Beaver. We didn't make it because the rapids of Hogans Creek were just receiving the inflow of water and a school of baitfish was in the middle and just surrounding us.

We made our way back and then just when you think the adventure is over. A call to Robert at Robert's Eatery and we were headed over to 26Th and Evergreen. All of us can appreciate the opportunity that exists in this community. But as we were eating our lunch I asked "Will we be allowed to participate?" And right now my answer is "No."

So Who's next?

Any print or news media outlet outside of Duval County.

Any commissioner of FIND

Anyone with Visit Jacksonville.

Anyone with the Jacksonville Waterways Commission.

Anyone that is with the St. Johns Riverkeeper.

Anyone in the new administration.

Any elected officials outside of Duval county.  
  
Somebody-Make it Happen.

Noone

June 25, 2011, 05:34:24 AM
Making a scene on the banks of one of the dirtiest creeks within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay zoning districts which leads out to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River was me and the beautiful owner of Le Chat Noir a cupcake bordello and bakery the one and only MadamePK.

Cream me over. And I'm not just talking about the laced filled rancid sediments that have built up over decades in this naughty but yet inviting urban Waterway Destination in our Core Exchange District.

We met at 9 under an FDOT overpass just feet away from Hogans Creek. Her enthusiasm when she arrived had me thinking that this is going to be a Madame's Choice which is an option when picking one of the girls from her cupcake selections. No argument here. She has done triathlons and I'm thinking I'm in for the paddle of my life.

It was a beautiful morning standing on the banks and planning our trip. It was an outgoing tide and I mentioned the rookery that was heading north to our right and the nesting green heron and the two chicks that I've witnessed as well as other fellow paddlers over the weeks from an egg to almost a foot high bird that at any time will be leaving the comforts of the tree.

She has done triathlons. So feeling unleashed from my confectionery bondage we enter Hogans Creek and paddle against the current heading to the rookery. Almost immediately we spot one of the chicks fully exposed on a branch above the nest. The adults are flying away from the tree. As we get closer the chick flys from the lower branch to a higher branch. Another stepping stone in this birds development. It was cool to see. We continue on and MadamePK is commenting on all the fiddler crabs and the clams that are on the banks. We make it to the rapids of Hogans Creek and turnaround. If it was with team Skiles we would be going through LOL. Now going with the current we make our way out to the river. The shopping cart depth meter chart is a good foot below the wheels. We make our way past some of the homeless camps. Through the Maxwell House Plant under Bay St. and then into the river.

In the river we both shared a WOW! factor. MadamePK who had a successful business in Ft. Worth and listening to her comparisons and what they were allowed to do and not do brought back memories of past studies and how we just ignore recommendations. Chan Krieger,JCCI River Dance Study,OFWB, I digress.

She has done triathlons. So now we are heading out to the river and the shelter of the current dissipates as you enter the main channel to get a look at our Downtown. I mentioned the Promised 680'Downtown Public Pier and asked if you want to paddle down to it. There was no hesitancy in this Madame's voice. The tide is heading out and the current is strong. We would get halfway to the pier and stop and take pictures and then float a few 100' then start again toward the pier.  I don't know how many times that we did that but what got me was every time I'd say lets book it to the pier and she was gone. Remember as a kid racing and then you may not have been first but then you yell "hey" lets race this way. Your first again until they pass you again. We were those kids out on the river. The dolphins breaking the surface on an empty cooking sheet which is our river gave an extra vibrancy to our paddle. MadamePK may have been a 100 yards in front of me but when the dolphin broke the surface our voices were in unison sharing in the excitement.

The paddle back going with the current although easier it still has its challenges. No different than missing your exit on the interstate.

Making our way back again its a low tide and for the first time ever the shopping cart depth meter chart is showing the hand rail of the cart and its an inch below that. I almost want to compare it to Mark Woods chart that he shared with all of us in his recent column in the Times Union on tubing the Itchetucknee. It was low.

We loaded the kayaks, briefly spoke with a JSO officer that happened to be arriving and was asking about the trip. He shared his favorite kayaking spot but was thinking about doing Hogans Creek in the future. Now after working up an appetite it was off to see Robert at Robert's Eatery. I introduced Robert and he already has his palate set for one of MadamePK's  girls the Toasty Tart.

MadamePK welcome back to Jacksonville and all the best. It was so much fun to share our greatest natural asset with you.

Who's next?

 
   

 

Noone

July 09, 2011, 05:18:42 PM
Yesterday was the final shuttle launch for NASA less than 24 hours later was the beginning of a chapter that will continue to grow and  allow for exploration, Public Access and economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River in our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District.   

The final ride of Atlantis may have had commander Christopher Ferguson, Pilot Doug Hurley, Mission Specialist 1 Sandy Magnus, and Mission Specialist 2 Rex Walheim but today on Hogans Creek and taking the mission to under the Hyatt parking lot were the four Amigos. Noone, Field, Capt Zissou, and PeeJayEss

The journey started with a cleanup at Hogans Creek. Field and I started at 9 and with an outgoing tide. The water clarity was excellent. We did a light cleanup and when the Capt and PeeJayEss showed up. You have to love the weakend warrior hours. It was great to see them. We made a mission decision to escalate this expedition to a new location and plan of attack. Before we embarked we all had some Fried Chicken Nuts. Mission control we are now ready.

I brought 4 kayaks and we just changed this Lite cleanup into an urban Waterway Destination Adventure with the Hyatt Parking Lot as our desired destination. We all drove over to the Jacksonville Historical Society and unloaded the kayaks. we walked by and were all looking at the still unidentified pole. I'm still going with a street car pole?

The tide was still heading out and low tide was still a few hours away. We are off and as we make our way out to the river the shopping cart depth meter chart has that Beaver mound look to it and the water level is 2" below the handle bar. The exposed sand bars are very exposed. There are two as you make your way out to the river. I would only trust the first one that you encounter. That's a future trip.

Once out at the river we are ready to make our paddle to the Hyatt. The current is steady and strong. I've encountered stronger currents at times but this was still a sporty paddle. At this point you just don't stop you keep paddling. I know for me it kicked my butt. I was so happy to make it and then just catch your breath as you are now out of the main current.

Once inside the cavernous open space of the vastness of this interesting Downtown Waterway Destination you have the opportunity to just look around and see the pockets of light that are piercing through in what can be described as a maze of concrete structures. We all paddled to the back and tapped our paddles to the back. The trip back out and once in the river we are now going with the current.

We are now going with the current and our Downtown Waterwat Destination Jungle Gym is just staring us in the face. We have options. We are just going with the flow. A shout out to one guy and he said that he had a nice 2 or 3 pound croker. Another guy fishing said he caught a little croaker. The biggest surprise and the best news is that there was a guy walking out and getting ready to fish on the Pier. Somebody Pinch Me.
Field mentions that's its because the fence is down and people are allowed to participate.

Field and I have taken the inside track and are just floating next to the bulkhead of Shipyards/Landmar. The Capt. and PeeJayEss have gone to the outside trac of the piers. We meet at an area that contained a floating debris field filled with all kinds of junk. Guys the lightbulb didn't work. We had a lot of fun playing in that waterway sandbox of debris.

The conditions for the entire paddle were great. Overcast skies and very little wind. We encountered porpoises on the way out and back. Heading back into Hogans Creek the shopping cart depth meter chart is showing a good 6" below the handlebar. These are the lowest Creek levels that I've ever seen.  Did anyone notice if the tire is still in the Mulberry Tree?

We identified a few more shopping carts that need to be removed. All in all this was one of the greatest paddles out of Hogans Creek that I've participated in. After the paddle we were all wondering how team Skile did that paddle from Dist.5 If team Skiles is involved bring your A game. The adventure to Exchange Club Island will be interesting. The perspective and the trip logistics with going with the current and against the current I know today has given all of us a moment to pause and see how everyone will have an opportunity to access, promote, preseve, and celebrate our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

Who's next?



   

   

Noone

July 16, 2011, 08:04:54 AM
Great conditions this morning. Who wants to go and has a camera to post pictures for the new administration to see. 904-721-3321 lets Make it Happen. Special shoutout to JAXUSA and our Regional Partners. River Access will be Huge.

Noone

July 19, 2011, 12:48:41 AM
On Sunday July 17, 2011 visit a State Park and admission is free.....a PUBLIC/PRIVATE partnership.

On Sunday a man swam across the St. Johns River our American Heritage River and emerged at a county park.....a PUBLIC/PRIVATE partnership.

On Sunday an editorial by our new Mayor Alvin Brown in the Florida Times Union and his plan for the creation of the office of PUBLIC/PRIVATE Partnership.

So on Sunday I had the pleasure of embarking on a journey that should highlight the potential of the PUBLIC/PRIVATE partnership on our Waterway through our vibrant Downtown with the insightful North Miami and we are both ready to tell everyone to visit a destination known as Jacksonville's Front Porch....Southern Style.

In the spirit of the PUBLIC/PRIVATE partnership and our new Mayor Alvin Brown our trip began at the Winn Dixie Downtown and the purchase of adult beverages. PeeJayEss, I'm thinking about you man. We then went over to Washington and Beaver and with an incoming tide I showed NM this potential private launch location. Also I took the opportunity to make a few casts and we now had live bait for fishing. We then headed over to what could be a potential Public launch site and that is behind the Jacksonville Historical Society.

For the first time instead of using sit in kayaks we were using sit on tops. Both were ocean kayaks and had a few more bells and whistles then what we had used before. So with some adult beverages on ice and the cooler positioned securely behind NM we were off. We brought our fishing poles. I so much wanted to catch a fish.

We had an early start and with some overcast clouds we launched underneath the FDOT overpass and I briefly showed him the Green Heron nest in the oak tree that was a couple of hundred yards to our right. A bird flew from the tree as we approached but that was it. The two chicks that some of us had seen were now gone.

We headed out to the river and with the full moon, incoming tide, north winds, and the storm system off our coast the tides were very high. the shopping cart depth meter chart was a good 6" above the tires. In fact I had to paddle back just to point out the two wheels. We both touched our paddles to the wheels in the spirit of a great trip. The bicycle tire is still in the Mulberry tree. We continue on past the Maxwell House Plant.

Once in the river we are going with the current. There is a chop in the water and the decision to use the sit on tops is a good one. We are just floating and looking at all the potential that is around us. The wind is blowing and we finally are getting the coffee aroma from the Maxwell House plant as we are nearing the destination that should be known as Jacksonville's Front Porch.....Southern Style.

We approach the Hyatt parking lot the tide is so high that there is no way to explore that destination point. A brief shower is now greeting us. We continue on and pass by the Landing. The River taxi is leaving the Southbank and Friendship fountain is making for a panoramic backdrop.

We continue to float with the current. We are going under the railroad bridge and hear the train whistle and are now just waiting in the water for another stimulating experience to your senses that is captured from a vantage point just looking up as this massive mode of transportation is just rambling above you.

It's a bucket list activity to experience in a kayak Downtown.

After the train passes by it was now time to enter the tunnel of McCoys Creek under the Times Union.  We are still going with the incoming tide. Once we exit and enter the overgrown tree canopy the rookery is alive with birds. NM and I are really enjoying this part of the trip. With the high tide we are easily able to navigate all the way to the back where there is a pipe and there is no way to continue on. We spent a lot of time enjoying the trees and canopy. NM and I are just having so much fun.

When we finally exited the darkness of the TU and into the light of the river once again we are now continuing our journey on to Fishweir Creek Dist.14. We are still catching the end of the incoming tide. We are now floating by RAM and look at the new floating dock. We go under the Fuller Warren. We continue on towards Fishweir Creek.

We have now been on the water for hours. The tide is slowly starting to turn. The wind is still strong out of the north. Going into this trip I knew that NM had a lot of outdoor experience and had a confidence in his outdoor abilities. Heck, he brought his own seat and paddle.

We are going past the Cummer we round the bend and there is St. Vincents hospital. I don't know why but I'm thinking that Fishweir is right there. I shout out to NM :Where is the exit for Fishweir Creek? He points out to this white dot way in the distance. Great!

Conditions have changed. Not drastically but there is an elevated awareness now of the open river and the 1-2 foot continuous swells. We are now paddling against the current and these are a crossing swells I opt to hug the shore but getting to close is causing another change in the flow of the water. NM is out in the river and just enjoying the whole trip. I head back out and join him. we still have a long way to go. As we would approach a long dock if there was an opening to go under I opted for it instead of paddling around. About a 100 yards out I would start to paddle with the waves and follow it like a surfer. I never surfed but with the swells in the river I felt like I was learning fast.

Remember that commercial. Never let them see you sweat? NM every time I looked back he was right there and just gave me that inward spirit to truly embrace our time on the water and what we were capturing together. We finally made it to Fishweir (Thank God) and I can really appreciate the frustration that the residents have been experiencing for all these years with the siltation. we paddled in and I couldn't get over the size and the beauty of some of those cypress trees. Saw a snapping turtle poking his head out of the water and with the position of the sun you could see that it was probably about 12" across.

Who's next?

Anyone on the PUBLIC/PRIVATE Partnership team

Anyone with the Governors office. Any of the commissioners of FIND.

Jean Schubert

Anyone with the SJRWMD.

Anyone with the Jacksonville Waterways Commission

Any outside media outlet.

Any city council person.

Special invitation to our new Mayor Alvin Brown. Bring your sons. It would be my pleasure to share a Downtown Destination that you made happen.

 
 

   

north miami

July 23, 2011, 12:08:22 AM
Noone  Hogans  Creek Trifecta......rendered speech/word less............
More later


North Murami

PS

State Agency response to past Sunday Noone Hogans Creek Trifecta discovery of abandoned vessel  still at it.The Camps require back up,FWCC will next need to access  Railroad lands in the search for the craft .Jacksonville History 2011.Real world long established Urban Camps.River "Awareness". We ain't swimming across McCoys.

UWDZ established under Florida Times Union building Complez.Official

The end result will be the Envy of any Chamber of Commerce,but not just any Chamber can lay claim.

Noone

July 31, 2011, 12:37:55 PM
First you Crawl. Then you Paddle.

After my first Pub Crawl and talking to a lot of people about Hogans Creek and a combination of some plan changes I found myself this morning standing behind St. Lukes Hospital and the Casket factory showing Jerry Spinks with the Jacksonville Historical Society the abandoned welding project, railroad car light pole, or an early streetcar pole. Jerry was under the impression that it was an advertising pole for the casket factory. I'm sticking with the streetcar pole.

I was there to do more of a cleanup and to paddle the creek. Jerry and I each took some pics and hope that this structure will be properly identified. I had the hatchet out and was cleaning and expanding the base even beyond what Ricker and I had done weeks ago. Are you ready for this. There is another base below the other base. A circular base with then a square base.

It was great to see Jerry again. I told him that I was going to pile up some garbage and give Vivian Harrell with Keep Jacksonville Beautiful a call and get the pile of garbage picked up.

As for the Creek it was an incoming tide. I just wanted to paddle the creek and then call it a day. I started against the tide and headed to the Maxwell House plant. The shopping cart depth meter chart was showing the wheel a good 5" below the surface. Tire was still in the Mulberry tree. Going past one of the camps it was laundry day because the clothes line was full. Debris had again gathered and was floating in the usual spots.

The bird life was active when entering the pond of the Maxwell House plant there was a cormorant just catching and eating fish. I kept pushing him toward the mouth of the river. A plover was scouring the concrete banks. And as I was coming to the river an osprey with a fish in its talons was flying off its perch. Popped out into the river and it was a light chop. Turned around and now paddled back to Washington and Beaver. Going with the tide there are people walking and I was saying hello to the people who were standing on the bridges.

The creek was alive with activity. The herons were concentrated in the high flood grasses. What a relaxing paddle. Took it back to the FDOT underpass under Duval St. and there are some brand new survey stakes. I give up. Anybody knows whats going on?

What another fantastic trip.

Who's next?

   

Noone

August 13, 2011, 02:32:03 PM
Today making a scene,  an appearance, a difference, a splash, a mover, caring, issue driven, result oriented, shaker, active participant, and Downtown resident was tufsu1 and I exploring A Downtown Urban Waterway Destination that can be opened immediately if our elected legislative representatives truly want to market and really mean it when we say VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

We were scheduled to meet at 9 and at 9 he was there with his kayak and gear and ready to go. Thats props in my book. I love the enthusiasm. There are people that when you show a spot to there are numerous reasons and points of interest that you want to point out that can only elevate any future discussions and dialogue when a topic comes up for consideration that they are now more astute to the issue. For tufsu1 and I it was one of those trips.

It was an incoming tide and we could have easily put in at Washington and Beaver but opted to put in behind the old St. Lukes Hospital and next to the casket factory. As we were pulling in Jerry Spinks was edging the sidewalk and mowing the yard. The man is a machine. We got the kayaks out and walked by the yet unidentifiable abandoned welding project, railroad light pole, Casket factory advertising pole, or old street car trolley pole. I'm still going with the street car trolley pole.

We get the kayaks in and head with the tide up to Beaver and Washington. I point out the nest in the oak tree and a number of herons are moving out as we approach. Its a very relaxed paddle. At one point a heron drops a bomb as we were approaching a tree and just became aware of our presence.

We made our way all the way up to Washington and Beaver effortlessly. The camps although visible were empty of activity. The paddle back was still filled with floating debris everywhere. But it just seemed to not be an issue for us as we just enjoyed the peace and tranquility of this paddle on the water.

We continue on pass our entry point under the FDOT overpass and we are catching the last of the incoming tide. Still a very relaxed paddle. As we enter the Maxwell House property I point out the tire in the Mulberry tree and we paddled over the shopping cart depth meter chart and I can't say for sure that it was still there. I made the comment that we'll check it on the way back.

What was exciting about this paddle is that tufsu1 is a resident of Downtown and to share and point out the potential access points that he is not only seeing but so many others have as well.  This Urban Waterway can be opened right now.

As we are going through the Maxwell House Plant we are discussing a bunch of what ifs. tufsu1 had a bunch of good ones that could be tied into the Baseball Grounds. As we enter into the river the boat traffic is alive with activity.

On the way back as we approach the shopping cart depth meter chart it a high tide and I must admit that I didn't spend a lot of time looking for it. I'm hoping its still there then again it may have been removed. If it ever gets removed and it will someday I know it won't be by me. I know I've pulled out about 20. Anyway we continue on and its something that I know that I'll be back and at a low tide I'll be able to report for sure. Its like the baby heron's in the tree that some of us were able to share at least once.

When we get back to the launch site which is a piece of cake as you pull up on that sandy exposed beach. On a high tide its beautiful. We had done a very light cleanup and I'll always try and leave it cleaner than when we arrived. What a beautiful morning to share it with tufsu1.

Who's next?

Daniel O"Byrne
Paul Anderson
Tera Meeks
Kelly Boree
Steve Patterson
Terry Lorrince
Any Regional Partner
Anyone on the Civic Council
Any Commissioner of FIND
Anyone on the Jacksonville Waterways Commission
Any outside media outlet
Melissa Ross
David Chapman
Ron Littlepage
Neil Armingeon
Richard Nunn
Any TV station (Local or National)
Abel H- (Tell the big guy we can do Hogans, McCoy and the Pier) I hope your laughing!
Springfield-Where are You? 

     

tufsu1

August 13, 2011, 03:09:39 PM
I sure got an up close and personal view of Hogans Creek...thanks noone!

iloveionia

August 13, 2011, 04:53:55 PM
Noone:
Contact Steve Patterson at the Times Union.  He's great.  He's the one who wrote the article on mothballing and preservation sos that was on the front page recently.  If he hasn't gone already, I'd bet he'd go.  steve.patterson@jacksonville.com  Plus he would have heard you speak at the most recent council meeting as he was there.

Noone

August 13, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
It was my pleasure. Lets do it again soon.
Anybody else?
Will continue to be an awesome Downtown Urban Waterway Destination.
The world is plugged in.
Who's next?
Lets Make it Happen.

Noone

August 13, 2011, 05:03:17 PM
Nicole,
Steve Patterson is on board twice. He is ready to go and we just need to Make it Happen. Open invitation to you. I hope you will say yes on this forum. And I'll guarantee that I'll follow up with another MadamePK delight.   

Noone

August 19, 2011, 01:36:10 PM
Jacksonville!
Its Go TIME!

Its GO TIME to OPEN UP and USE THE RIVER.

Today is the first preseason game of the Jacksonville Jaguars at Everbank Field and today it was a preseason paddle to scope out, explore, experience, provide an analyst interpretation, current navigation, a visual walking of the field or in our case a paddle of the water as opposed to the grass. And assisting in this preseason to then possibly make recommendations to the coaches or the new mayor and administration was Tom Nickels an ACA American Canoe Association Level 4 Open Water Sea Kayak Instructor and a Level 3 BCU British Canoe Union instructor and me.

Tom was early and we met and put in at Hogans Creek behind the Jacksonville Historical Society. Upon arrival JSO was at the scene and I went up to share our plans with the officer and Jerry Spinks had arrived and with a wave to both we were off on another Downtown Urban Waterway Destination Adventure.

It was an outgoing tide and I pointed to the oak tree that was a real treat during the nesting season with the green heron. We checked it out on the way back. Going with the tide we went by the Shopping Cart Depth Meter chart and both wheels were a foot above the water. Man I was glad to see it. Because I didn't see it when tufsu1 and I went. The tire is still in the mulberry tree.

We make our way through the Maxwell House Plant and out into the River. Its an outgoing tide and so we are paddling against the current. To share the history and legislative domino's as to why our Downtown is the way it is creates a quagmire of answers and more questions why more people aren't being able to participate in an activity that we are having a blast doing right now.

We make our way past the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier Dist. 4 Councilman Redman (Do Something)

The current isn't ripping as hard as it was when Field, Capt, and PeeJayEss made our way to the Hyatt parking lot but once we got there how cool was it to see this Downtown Destination. After the Hyatt on past the Landing. So many times we both felt that we had the whole river to ourselves. We did encounter one large barge being pushed by a tug and that was neat to watch from the river. Once it passed our spot in the river than the fountains of Friendship Fountain immediately provided another visual stimulation.

After the Landing and still going against the current we make it under the train tracks and are now heading under the Times Union which is McCoys Creek. The entire trip has been on a slick calm river with little wind and has made for s truly relaxed paddle. Upon entering the rookery I told Tom to just glide in and the rookery was alive with activity. There have been times when I've seen more birds but it was a captured period of time when there wasn't any other noise that you heard other than the activity that was occurring with the birds. We both felt that we captured that moment. With the low tide  fallen tree we couldn't venture back like NM and I did. In fact if I was with NM I wouldn't be writing this I'd still be out on the water (LOL.)

After exiting the cavernous darkness and emerging into the light we did a pause and a WOW and then headed over to River City Brewing. Still an outgoing tide and we made a good quick track over and once at the boat ramp we took a little break and then took it back to Hogans Creek. Going with the current we were there in no time. It was almost on cue but we reached a slack tide and upon heading into Hogans the tide had changed and when we reached the shopping cart depth meter chart one wheel was exposed and the 2ND was almost under water. We continued on all the way up to Beaver and Washington where the cleanup will take place Sat. Aug 20.

We exited where we began. It was an absolute pleasure to share this Downtown Urban Waterway Destination with a man who and I'm not going to put any words in his mouth but I believe was impressed.

Who is going to Make It Happen legislatively? 
 

Noone

August 26, 2011, 06:35:15 PM
Going to the Crawl. High tides in the AM. Anyone want to see one of the top 10 Urban Waterway Destinations in Jacksonville just pm me and we'll Make it Happen.

Noone

August 27, 2011, 04:47:34 PM
First you Crawl. Then you Paddle.

Today making a scene on the 2Nd most important Waterfront Public Access Point location on an Urban Waterway Destination within our Downtown Exchange Core District was me and Joe Lisska.

Joe was a participant in last weekends cleanup of Hogans Creek and the shout out post to kayak Hogans Creek  is what made it happen for us to share a unique trip that will continue to grow throughout this city and state as it relates to Public Access and Economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River.

Hurricane Irene is still tracking north but with a morning high tide and the obvious additional push of water into our river this was the highest tide that I've experienced.

Conditions were beautiful. Bright sunny skies and light breezes. The paddle out was relaxed and slow as we both commented on just a week ago we had left this area spotless but the floating debris was gathering again and will continue unless addressed and I believe as this city provides access and use to this waterway that it will get cleaned up.

The creek was calm and it was nice to see plenty of heron activity flying around us. As we made our way toward the river I point out all the parking that is on the southside of the creek. Joe is familiar with the potential launch site that is behind the casket company and old St. Lukes Hospital.

As we approach the shopping cart depth meter chart we don't even try to spot it. The tide is so high that you almost have to duck to get under the bridges. The tire is still in the mulberry tree. Parking lots are slightly flooded.

We make our way and go through the Maxwell House Plant. We pop out into the river and there is boat traffic just staring right at us. As we make our way back up to Washington and Beaver which was our start point are you ready for this. We see a jellyfish. The push of the water into the river is apparent.

It was a great trip and a pleasure to meet Joe.

Who's next?   

Noone

August 31, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
Anybody want to kayak Hogans Creek? PM me. We'll Make it Happen. OUR Waterways Downtown are a Destination and the opportunity to participate is ready to explode. Anyone want to join me in an ACA class the weekend of 9/17 and 18?

Noone

September 01, 2011, 05:37:01 AM
ITS GO TIME! Anyone want to see a statewide Urban Waterway Destination in Downtown Jacksonville? Huge announcements coming soon. Anyone want to join me in an ACA class 9/17 and 18.

Anyone outside of Duval county goes to the top of the list.

NavyGuyAN

September 06, 2011, 06:01:40 AM
Hey NOONE!...Is there any way you can continue North of your launch area on the creek or is the clearance on that small Arlington Expy overpass (between Washington and Union) too low for a kayak to go through?

Noone

September 06, 2011, 06:19:47 AM
Its too low. If you want to go sometime just let me know.

NavyGuyAN

September 06, 2011, 06:51:26 AM
Will do...paddled all the way up and back on Fishing Creek yesterday...and battled the wind, waves and boat wake just north of the 103rd street bridge on the Ortega and my arms/shoulders need a break...lol. Have you paddled Cedar Creek and the Ortega River?  (South of 103rd St)

Noone

September 06, 2011, 07:21:56 AM
No I haven't.
I've paddled with North Miami once and Fishweir creek which is part of his neck of the woods near you. After paddling with North Miami I needed a break we were on the water about 8 hours.
Is that part of the JMM Jacksonville Marina Mile?
Kayaking opportunities as it relates to economic development is in its infancy stages especially Downtown.
I'm still trying to understand our message to the world

VISIT JACKSONVILLE!
or
Don't VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

Do look forward to paddling with you one day. Have a lot of people on the list that want to paddle Hogans Creek. This is Dist.7. Councilman Gaffney needs to wake up. What will be our message to our Regional Partners? JCCI study, Recession, Recovery and Beyond. 

fieldafm

September 06, 2011, 09:27:19 AM
Will do...paddled all the way up and back on Fishing Creek yesterday...and battled the wind, waves and boat wake just north of the 103rd street bridge on the Ortega and my arms/shoulders need a break...lol. Have you paddled Cedar Creek and the Ortega River?  (South of 103rd St)

I've gone from Stinson Park all the way up to Westside Regional and Tillie Fowler.  That's a real nice trip, very scenic.  As a matter of fact, putting in at Westside Regional and paddling up to Collins Road and back is my next trip.  The only thing that sucks is that you have to carry the kayak quite a bit through the trails at Westside Regional or Tillie Fowler to get to the river from the parking lot.

bobsim

September 06, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
Will do...paddled all the way up and back on Fishing Creek yesterday...and battled the wind, waves and boat wake just north of the 103rd street bridge on the Ortega and my arms/shoulders need a break...lol. Have you paddled Cedar Creek and the Ortega River?  (South of 103rd St)

  We paddled the Cedar River from San Juan to Liverman Park a couple of weeks ago. Very nice paddle. Everyone we met was friendly and power boaters were polite. Once under the canopy the transition is amazing - like going back in time. Some litter especially in the bridge areas but on the whole it was a very pleasant day.

  We love doing the urban creeks and exploring, you can't beat them for a windy day trip or when you just want a short paddle. We save a lot on fuel too.

  Here's a link to our trip on the Cedar River: http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1237389

north miami

September 06, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
No I haven't.
I've paddled with North Miami once and Fishweir creek which is part of his neck of the woods near you. After paddling with North Miami I needed a break we were on the water about 8 hours.


It was a Noone Hogans Creek Trifecta!!
Same day whirlwind Hogans,McCoys,Fishweir.

I will post story soon.

Noone

September 07, 2011, 05:27:33 AM

  We paddled the Cedar River from San Juan to Liverman Park a couple of weeks ago. Very nice paddle. Everyone we met was friendly and power boaters were polite. Once under the canopy the transition is amazing - like going back in time. Some litter especially in the bridge areas but on the whole it was a very pleasant day.

  We love doing the urban creeks and exploring, you can't beat them for a windy day trip or when you just want a short paddle. We save a lot on fuel too.

  Here's a link to our trip on the Cedar River: http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=1237389

bobsim, Thanks for posting and the photo tour as well. Obviously a special place and another of many treasures that lie within our urban Waterways and adds to the cumulative effect of why we would say VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

I love the yaks too. It was like breaking out the fine china as compared to the ones I've used. I just want to say "Take me with you!" Great trip! I want to visit your neighborhood.

Do you know who your councilman is? Carter? Love? Just not sure the district your in. But this just highlights how we can be viewed as a joke when we can't get the Downtown councilman to do something with the pier (Redman) and Hogans Creek (Gaffney) as it relates to Public Access and economic opportunity.

bobsim

September 07, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
  Thank you Noone,

  The yaks are a far cry from fine china, we're pretty tough on them. Last year  we realized how much we were spending to rent and building them was a no brainer. We are looking at doing the Fishing and Butchers Pen creeks (same area) soon also. The folks we met there were great.

  I live in old Arlington, councilman Gaffney. I will contact him with regards to Hogans Creek, check for PM later.

 

 

north miami

September 07, 2011, 07:24:08 PM
for example,Denver Colorado folk flock to artificial pools,"water body" and are now mourning the passing of the water season.
we are entering yet another magnificent water season.


Visit

I am so proud to know Councilman Jim Love has extended the curiosity and interest to tour with Noone.

NavyGuyAN

September 08, 2011, 01:05:37 AM
Will do...paddled all the way up and back on Fishing Creek yesterday...and battled the wind, waves and boat wake just north of the 103rd street bridge on the Ortega and my arms/shoulders need a break...lol. Have you paddled Cedar Creek and the Ortega River?  (South of 103rd St)

I've gone from Stinson Park all the way up to Westside Regional and Tillie Fowler.  That's a real nice trip, very scenic.  As a matter of fact, putting in at Westside Regional and paddling up to Collins Road and back is my next trip.  The only thing that sucks is that you have to carry the kayak quite a bit through the trails at Westside Regional or Tillie Fowler to get to the river from the parking lot.

Hey FIELDAFM!...
Instead of dragging the kayak through Tillie Fowler Park, you can put-in at Ringhaver Park. To get to the canoe/kayak launch area; park at the very end of Morse Ave. (which dead-ends into the park) and the walk isnt that far. Next time I go I was going to put-in at this location. I still cant believe you went all the way from Stinson Park! I guess the next time I go, I'll make sure there isnt a 1-2ft. chop on the Ortega when I go. I was planing on going past Collins, 295 and Blanding and seeing how far up the Ortega I can go into Argyle. When I was kayaking on Fishing Creek this past weekend the creek was 3 feet wide and 8-10 inches deep where we turned around (too many fallen trees) just shy of reaching 110th Street.

Noone

September 08, 2011, 10:10:57 AM
Lake, Great work again. This is Dist.7 and this creek has the immediate potential for a pocket pier on this urban waterway.

On Friday Oct. 8 city hall Conf. room A ste. 425. the Jacksonville Waterway Commission is holding a subcommittee meetining on FIND. With a new city council and Mayor and with the commissioners of Find meeting Nov. 12 in Duval county this could be a huge opportunity for the people of Springfield.

FIND projects are introduced and acted on in phases.

Springfield residents if you want action now then show up at this meeting. Otherwise it could be another election cycle before your concerns are heard. (4 years)

Springfield, Where are you??

The Aug. 31St Waterways subcommittee meeting on canoe and kayak launches by FIND would have been a slam dunk if somebody shows up. A decision has not yet been made. Does anybody care?

FIND is good

Jacksonville is LOST

council meeting in 5 days
Waterways in 6 days

Noone

September 10, 2011, 12:52:53 PM
Making a scene on our 2Nd most important Waterfront Public Access point that can also be an identified FIND Upcoming project submission for Dist.7 was Bridges and Amanda.

A morning shout out and we were on the water in an hour. And it was a pleasure to share this Urban Waterway Destination that can be part of a vibrant Downtown Experience. What a beautiful day. We arrived together and unloaded the kayaks and carried them to an FDOT launch location under Duval St. next to the casket factory and old St. Lukes Hospital. It was a high tide and and the creek was a slick calm.

We took a relaxed paddle out and just discussed all the what ifs. The tire was in the Mulberry tree and the shopping cart depth meter chart was a couple of inches below the surface. The entry into the Maxwell House grounds had a post card feel with the sun, sky, and water all showing the beauty that we were experiencing by paddling through this space.

Our exit out into the river and just feeling the current starting to increase we took it back in. The paddle back in was awarded with Bridges spotting a plover on some of the concrete chunks. A souvenir brick for Amanda. The shopping cart depth meter chart is still submerged under the water. we are in good shape.   

We continue on and the green heron nest is still in the oak tree. We see some of the homeless camps and we paddle by someone that is still sleeping in. The garbage is back and has collected in some of the concentrated areas. City cleanup will be next weekend and looking forward to it. We all looked at the yet unidentifiable railroad light pole, casket factory advertising pole, or street car trolley pole. Lake,Ock any announcements on what it is?

What an unbelievable activity to share with them today. I shared with Bridges and Amanda my immediate concerns.

What will we be telling our Regional Partners?

VISIT JACKSONVILLE!
           or
DON"T VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

Legislation will tell us. 2011-560 ready for council in 3 days. Be concerned.

Who's next?

Noone

September 13, 2011, 04:26:10 AM
  Thank you Noone,

  The yaks are a far cry from fine china, we're pretty tough on them. Last year  we realized how much we were spending to rent and building them was a no brainer. We are looking at doing the Fishing and Butchers Pen creeks (same area) soon also. The folks we met there were great.

  I live in old Arlington, councilman Gaffney. I will contact him with regards to Hogans Creek, check for PM later.

 

 

bobsim, Have you heard from Gaffney?

Noone

September 13, 2011, 04:56:11 AM
Here's some photos of the cleanup Saturday Morning, I would have put Noone in the top photo, but really Kelly was much more pleasant on the eyes. Don't worry buddy, you won't see me in any of the shots either, I mean digital camera's only allow for so many pixels. I didn't bring my boat either... the Titanic sank some time ago. Giving credit where it is due, we DID encounter a young (homeless?) man who was cutting through the woods and asked us what we were doing, when we told him he rolled up his sleeves and joined us... So our thanks to Henry too. ;D

OCKLAWAHA
























Ock,
Just crossing the river and trying to tie things in with the Navy ship coming to the Southbank. What has happened to the momentum that was happening with Hogans Creek?

I'll always remember you standing on Bay St. and the biggest smile on your face as our flotilla was taking it back to the casket factory. That sounds like a drop dead endorsement for promoting our vibrant Downtown.

I know we didn't stop there instead we took it to the back of a fire station and police station at Washington and Beaver through an urban waterway dotted with homeless camps. That 3 year old had a blast.

The bottom line point is that a kayak launch at Duval St. That can happen NOW. would provide a small cluster that could then paddle over to the Adams and be part of a bigger cluster. What Lake talks about pedestrian traffic the kayak would provide the waterway traffic that can join a permanent fixed cluster whether on the Northbank or Southbank.

Just a heads up but a special shout out to Jerry Spinks and Emily Lisska and the Jacksonville Historical Society for allowing the use of their parking lot for the 2nd time for this Sat. 9/17/11 cleanup from 9-11 participants will get a t-shirt after at RAM Riverside Arts Market. And a special thanks to Vivian Harrell. I love it when Vivian says that Hogans Creek is not a fluff site.
 

Noone

September 23, 2011, 07:18:52 AM
Who's next. Watching all the morning news shows and people that are reporting on the river and seeing the beautiful conditions is having me load up a kayak and I'll be taking it to Hogans Creek.

Has anyone heard from Gaffney? I've been totally ignored. How about you? 

The same can be said for Don Redman Dist. 4 Redman is worse because he is Chair of Waterways, The Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier (2010-604) is in his district. Redman is leading the conspiracy to deny Public Access and economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a federal initiative.

Pending legislation for Springfield 2011-560. Represents MILLIONS of dollars and Dist. 7 is being totally thrown under the bus as well as the entire city of Jacksonville.
 

Noone

October 23, 2011, 04:56:07 AM

Yesterday was the day to break out the Pink Caddy Yak on Hogans Creek. It was the Susan G Komen Race for the Cure.
 
Beautiful day. Put in behind the Jacksonville Historical Society and Casket factory under Duval St which can be a future FIND project for a canoe and kayak launch. As I'm paddling out you could hear the yells from the participants in the walk/run event above.
 
It was an outgoing tide water clarity was good. Lots of bird activity which was nice to experience. Shopping cart depth meter chart is showing two wheels exposed. A plover is now darting around in the concrete chunk banks that is now the Maxwell House plant. Paddle out to the River under Bay St. and the walkers and runners are waving and yelling as I pass underneath and continue on into the St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

I take it back in and anchor in the Maxwell House area so that I'm able to face Bay St. and see the participants going by. I brought a Pink fishing pole and was making some casts. Didn't catch anything. The tide was heading out and in fact for those who came and looked over the rail especilly the kids you could hear them saying look at the garbage on the bottom. And that is true. Paddling around the flats are exposed and its apparent to see the debris littered around.

Taking it back the shopping cart depth meter chart is almost showing the handlebar. Its low. After I loaded up I then went over to RAM and enyoyed the River from another vantage point. Another district. Another Zone. Another Venue. Another Access point.

Who's next?

 

Noone

November 25, 2011, 07:54:59 AM
Who wants to get ready for future events like kayaking with the Mayor.
Great conditions this morning. Who wants to Make It Happen?
Who wants to make a scene on a Downtown Waterway Destination?
904-721-3321-h
904-434-0839-c
Lets reorganize how we Preserve, Access, Promote, and Celebrate our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

Noone

December 14, 2011, 07:20:33 AM
Who's next?

Public/Private Partnership.

Special shout out to 501-c wannabees.

Who wants to be a 501-c?  I'm serious.

FIND is GOOD - Jacksonville is LOST
Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting in two hours.

north miami

December 14, 2011, 07:24:52 AM

Duval Street Overpass is ideal Public Hand Launch site near ready to go,no fuss.

The adjacent downstream cove perfect trash loading exhibit.

fieldafm

December 14, 2011, 08:20:09 AM
Noone
What are you doing Friday morning?  Care to paddle?

Noone

December 15, 2011, 07:20:28 AM
Field and the three amigos. I can't wait to paddle again with you. And if we have to we'll crawl to the launch site. Capt., PeeJayEss I'm thinking about you guys to.

Mike, Have you done a site inspection of Chelsea St? Check it out immediately. Report back. I'll meet you there and then treat you to Robert's Eatery. You were the winner of the $10 gift certificate at the Hogans Creek cleanup. Call first 485 0273.

As for Hogans Creek I want to but Dave Roman with the administration has given me some kayaking assignments that I need to check out. And I'm excited. Did anyone read Littlepage yesterday? The Waterways access issue needs some tweaking. I believe he gets it. There are still some HUGE, HUGE just MONSTROUS issue of the interpratation of the legislature and the Commercial Working Waterfront as it relates to Commerce in what will be our Downtown Independent Authority.

Be concerned.
Keep score.
The Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier is a piece. The USS Adams group is supportive.
The state of Florida is watching.

I want to say
"VISIT JACKSONVILLE"
          not
"DON"T VISIT JACKSONVILLE" 
Will post more about the city council meeting 12/13 and Waterways 12/14 on another thread.
I miss Jerry Spinks.

Noone

December 18, 2011, 07:21:36 AM
Will be Making a Scene on a Downtown Urban Waterway Destination today. Will be sharing this Downtown Destination that Mayor Alvin Brown continues to promote. Lets do it. Call me. PM me.

Will report to Dave Roman and everyone else. Can't wait to go kayaking with the Mayor.

Jacksonville Khan Make It Happen.

 

Noone

January 07, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
Hogans Creek! I miss you.

Today in Downtown Jacksonville you have to ask. Who is going to put out the WELCOME MAT if you want to Promote, Celebrate, Preserve, and Access our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative in our Urban Core?

Chamber of commerce day and I took it to a natural kayak launch under Duval St. behind the Old St. Lukes Hospital and next to the casket factory. Conditions were ideal. Outgoing tide. The debris is back  not at elevated levels that we have experienced before. The shopping cart depth meter chart is showing two wheels exposed. See a kingfisher and his flight and presence just follows me out through the Maxwell House Plant.

Great paddling conditions. Outgoing tide so it was a good paddle to the brand new Waterways NO FISHING signs from the Hyatt all the way around to Berkman Plaza. Paddled by the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier and was saying to myself WTF ( Whiting, Trout, Flounder)

Entered with room to spare under the brand new NO FISHING signs. Did not see one person out on the Riverwalk and not even 1 boat in the 50 slip marina. What an experience to enter a vast cavern in the heart of our Downtown.

It wasn't long and I had a fish on. I have to give props to Captain Roger Bump and his fishing tips so I'm sharing this one with him.

I couldn't stay long but I'll definitely be back.

Now going back with the tide I'm just flying through the water. Take it under the pier and the birds are startled because you are just so close to them and they don't see you coming. The shopping cart depth meter chart is now showing the handlebars. The kingfisher hasn't left and its good to see that he is still there.

Did a good 1 full Vivian Harrell blue cleanup bag of the area then took it back to the house.

Who's next?

Special shout out to any media outside of Duval County.

Commissioners of FIND

Mayor Brown lets keep the kayak momentum going. Your getting props in my book.

Members of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission.

Anyone with the Recreational Fishing Alliance.

Board members of the St. Johns River Water Management District

Anyone on the Jacksonville city council. Councilman Love you have seen Hogans Creek and get pats on the back.

Tera Meeks
Kelly Boree
Paul Anderson
Daniel O'Byrne
Mark Middlebrook
Lisa Rinamon
Susan Grandin
Bonnie Barnes
Dave Roman

Jacksonville Khan Make It Happen.
   

Noone

January 13, 2012, 03:27:11 PM
Metrojacksonville - You rock.

Yesterday I took an out of town guest kayaking in our Core Exchange District which includes our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

I so much wanted to take this visitor under the Times Union building. But given the conditions and the tides you have immediate safety concerns and decisions that come into play. It was a high outgoing tide and we are in Brooklyn just sitting at the light and just blocks away from Stoneawall and Chelsea St. He's a big guy and I'm thinking will he make it under the pipes before we go through the tunnel. He is here to VISIT JACKSONVILLE. I turn to him and say we're not attempting it.

I mention RCB but with a high outgoing tide and even though its just him and I we're not attempting it.

Another location which would have been the marina ( which I have yet to try myself) but just thinking out loud. We put in and then paddle where? We are not attempting it.

Finally I said enough driving around. I'm taking you to an historical launch location that is behind a piece of Jacksonville's history that played a big part of the fire of 1901. So going over the Duval bridge we are looking at the arena and to the right is the old St. Lukes Hospital and next to the casket factory. I get out my Emily Liska sign and we are launching in a natural sandy beach location. Emily I need to give you a call.

Remember its a high outgoing tide, overcast and windy conditions. The sheltered creek is a good option. As soon as he is on the water. I hear him say "WOW a PELICAN! Not even close. I wasn't about to correct him and wipe that smile and grin that he kept throughout the rest of our paddle through Jacksonville history.

An easy paddle out. The shopping cart depth meter chart is under water. Very relaxed paddle and when we get to Bay St. We see that the yellow buoys are now barricading our exit out to the river. May have been JEA or some group with the city welding and using torches on the bridge. Not the Bay St. one but the other bridge next to the river. Anyone have any idea whats going on?

So we take it back to the Maxwell House plant and just take a break. His phone rings and he's telling the caller you are not going to believe where I am. I'm in a kayak sitting on a creek in Downtown Jacksonville. I'm literally smelling the coffee. The aroma was strong.

We take it back and I point out the shopping cart depth meter chart because two wheels are now exposed.

We had fun.

Who's next? 

fieldafm

January 13, 2012, 03:38:17 PM
Vivian mentioned there was a small group of people who were going to do a cleanup today at the Beaver/Washington launch spot... wish I was in town to see how they did. 

Noone

February 06, 2012, 06:38:16 AM
Field, Good stuff. Any follow up report?

Kayaked Hogans Creek yesterday. Awesome conditions. Put in behind the Jacksonville Historical Society under Duval St. out going tide. Shopping cart depth meter chart is showing two wheels exposed. The tire in the mulberry tree is gone but it has now been replaced with a cd hanging in the branches. ( I'm ready to rock N roll)

Entering the Maxwell House part of this Downtown Urban Waterway Destination that is not a pass through but a vibrant part of Jacksonville's history is extensive scaffolding on the Maxwell House building. Spot a plover. That bird is exciting to watch.

Continue under Bay St. and the other bridge is now gone and the pilings are left. Has this been reported anywhere else in this community? Huge construction project. Did some fishing. Took it back and the shopping cart depth meter chart and the water level is just above the handlebars.

Paddled by some homeless camps. Everyone was in a good spirit. Took it back to the rapids of Hogans Creek and turned around. Whenever I'm on the creek and I'm at that spot in those conditions I always think of Doug and his son Jacob. At this spot there is a kingfisher that was darting around on various trees. It is always exciting to see the kingfisher the symbol of the St. Johns Riverkeeper. Tried for a pic but he just kept flying off.

Took it back to the sand launch under Duval St. and then did a Vivian Harrell solid blue bag cleanup. Left it at the designated pickup location and will be contacting Vivian today. Vivian is the best. St. Johns River cleanup is coming up and I hope that we will be able to do it again on Hogans Creek. I know I'm crossing my fingers.

Who's next?
   

Noone

April 29, 2012, 07:03:19 AM
In the world today across the pond was the Royal Wedding of William and Kate. In Jacksonville paddling Hogans Creek an urban Waterway within our Downtown Jacksonville Overlay Zoning District was myself and sharing this adventure was the Executive Director of the Jacksonville Civic Council, Don Shea.

Don was there before me and was ready to go. The weather was breaking at the right time for our trip to be a success. I just want to inject right now our thoughts and prayers with all the families who lost loved one with the storms that ravaged the southeast. The overcast clouds that were associated with that storm system were clearing out and the winds were diminishing.

It was an outgoing tide and the birds were moving early primarily because we were going at a pretty good clip and they knew we were coming. We swiftly moved past some of the campsites and the garbage that was starting to collect after the recent rains was more pronounced. I was pointing to Don some of the potential access points that could open this waterway immediately.

We made our way past the shopping cart depth meter chart and both wheels were fully exposed. I mentioned to Don if funding is needed to open this waterway can you imagine the naming rights for that shopping cart. We both enjoyed a good laugh.

Continuing on, we paddled adjacent to  the Maxwell House plant and did enjoy the smell of the morning aroma of coffee. when we popped out into our St. Johns River our American Heritage River the water had a slight chop. the outgoing tide allowed for a floating break that just carried us out to visually see what can be a vibrant piece of our Downtown. If you are allowed to participate. Yes, the Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier was in view

The current is continually moving. We see a big catamaran heading north. All of a sudden some nice gusts are greeting us as we make our way back. Its still an outgoing tide we are paddling hard and as we make our way to the shopping cart depth meter chart the wheels are exposed. I show Don the tire that is hanging in the Mulberry tree.   

My hats off to Don for taking the time to see for himself as have so many others what should be on the short list of things that need to happen so we can tell everyone to "Visit Jacksonville."

Who's next?

So much has happened in a year.

Yesterday I was Making a Scene on a Downtown Waterway Destination River Activity and instead of launching at Washington and Beaver I was launching at the new kayak launch at the city marina at Metropolitan Park. The once inviting location at Washington and Beaver has been replaced with brand new No Trespassing signs.

So on Sat. morning after listening to the fishing shows Iwanted to take it Downtown. I want to say I'm All In. My original intent was to put in at the city marina and then paddle all the way to the Hyatt, Berkman Plaza-Plaza at Berkman. It was an outgoing tide and once you leave the shelter of the marina you are immediately in the open waters and strong currents of our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

So immediately I'm paddling against the current. There were two boats in the marina. I brought my fishing poles and it was one of those trips where the fishing was more a secondary purpose. Another personal observation is that river traffic in this part of the river is not under the no wake zone. On a beautiful weekend there were so many boats that you just lose count. I mention this for the benefit of the novice kayaker and the reality that if you are not skilled or prepared this can be dangerous in my opinion.

So anyway I'm paddling toward Dowtown against the current and I make it to the entrance to Hogans Creek. The demolition and the widening of the creek appears to be finished. (Never before Waterways) It has been a long time so I decide to take it in.

Still an outgoing tide the water levels are some of the lowest I've ever seen. What is noticable is the vast widening that has taken place. The vegetation on one side that provided a canopy for some birds in stark contrast to the rocky bank that now is on the other side. I am seeing more plovers. small birds that dart between the rocks and their flight just inches above the water and that bounce in there step.

I take it through the Maxwell House plant and there is a ladder leaning against a palm tree as the palms are all being trimmed. Super low tides and there is still garbage around. I take it by the shopping cart depth meter chart and the cart is almost 3/4 exposed. I'm talking very low tides.

Continue on and Make it by the launch under Duval St. next to the Casket factory and Old St. Lukes Hospital. Its about 11 am the sun is bright and the low exposed banks are just filled with fiddlers. You go past patches of spartina grass and you just have to say to yourself what will be a true restoration project as we open this Waterway? I'm already missing Dana Morten.

I continue on and finally make it to the rapids of Hogans Creek. There is no way I'm continuing on unless its a Doug Skiles I'm not quitting maneuver. Doug the water was so low that instead of rapids it looked like falls. I turn around and take it back. What is really sad to report is that during this trip I didn't see one species of heron. Not one.

The trip back to the marina was easy. Still an outgoing tide. I said hello to a man that was fishing when I started. He said he caught a couple of croaker. I got to the marina and decided to fish under the brand new no fishing signs. Caught a trout. Small one.

Who's next?

billy

April 29, 2012, 09:01:23 AM
Was in town early last week. Brought kayak, but sadly, had no time to use it.
Went over near Adams Street Bridge, and walked over from Union Street to creekside. Someone had dumped a load of
old brick debris almost on the bank. Water seemed to be flowing fast, looked low.

Noone

May 24, 2012, 12:36:20 AM
Who's next?

Great conditions in the AM. An epoch opportunity to reclaim FIND projects for 2013. We can put in at Hogan's creek and take it to Sidney Geffen Park. Low tide is at 7 am.

Have a tandem and we can catch the incoming tide. So we can launch at 7:30, 8, 8:30, 9

Who wants to say- VISIT JACKSONVILLE?

Noone

June 21, 2012, 02:23:10 AM
Check out images 1,3, and 28

This community just took out the old viaduct South of Bay St. that once carried the Seaboard Coastline Railroad. Not before Waterways. Notice the steps and  potential bicycle rack on the river? Another example of destroying connectivity.

So who wants to kayak Downtown and fish under the brand new no fishing signs?

Noone

June 23, 2012, 06:03:01 AM
Sunday 6/24/12 is a unique opportunity to continue to wrap your hands around a unique urban Waterway Destination that Downtown is just not a pass through as it relates to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative. There is a clean up that will take place at 9 am at Washington and Catherine St. I'm All In.

Lake, Ock, the Jacksonville Historical Society I'm not picking on you but I must say that I'm in total shock that not a word from the rail guys about taking out the old viaduct that once carried the Seaboard Coastline Railroad. Obviously I guess you all were in total support.  I did reach out to the Riverkeeper. Was it the position of the Historical Society that it was great to see it gone forever? Just asking.

thelakelander

June 23, 2012, 06:35:15 AM
^That wasn't a rail viaduct.  The rail viaduct was removed over a decade ago.  The viaduct that was removed as was a street and it wasn't historic. 

dougskiles

June 23, 2012, 07:09:53 AM
The city will be announcing a new round of designated kayak launch sites and trail improvements on Friday, June 29th, 8:30 am, Tillie Fowler Park (across from NAS).  One of the launch sites will be on Hogans Creek at the end of Catherine Street.  Public Works is going to clear away the undergrowth this week to make it more accessible.

DuvalHusky

June 23, 2012, 08:42:10 AM
One of the many things Brown's "administration" has dropped the ball on while oiling their cliche machine (SORRY, HAD TO), is pursuing federal grant opportunities for our local waterways. The attached grant below, while now closed, represented a good opportunity for the City to lead a collaborative grant application.

http://www07.grants.gov/search/search.do;jsessionid=s1QLPl2b3NL8YG0fntk9pLQ1mqZ74Hp431smgvvHRGzSw14VQrJW!1911218039?oppId=131634&mode=VIEW

While the Peyton administration was flawed, I know their Parks and Grants Office, when it was started but the guy who came from parks, were active in pursuing grants for Hogan's Creek. The City and Michael Bryant even submitted a grant to NOAA several years ago for some small test sites along to creek to restore riparian flood plot areas to help clean the creek of debris. While not funded, there was some interest and leadership shown and a lot of data produced.

This administration has no one designated to pursue these grants, no one designated or capable (that I'm aware of) to write these grants, and no one leading any kind of larger effort. This is a pity and I think urban core CPAC needs to start bringing these grant notices to Brown and asking him where the "private-public" partnerships are for our waterways.

I'm crawling off my soap box now.  :) Budget times are tight however the City can still lead and facilitate.

Noone

June 23, 2012, 07:06:36 PM
^That wasn't a rail viaduct.  The rail viaduct was removed over a decade ago.  The viaduct that was removed as was a street and it wasn't historic. 

OK. Well look at picture 1 and imagine a food truck. the steps that are already there and the connectivity that was just lost for not only walking but cycling. Where was the discusion? There was none.

 

Noone

June 23, 2012, 07:11:12 PM
Public Works is going to clear away the undergrowth this week to make it more accessible.

Public Works is the one who gets the credit for Stonewall and Chelsea St. on McCoys Creek in Riverside. I just hope they don't plan on cutting a 100' wide path to the creek.

thelakelander

June 23, 2012, 09:53:48 PM
^That wasn't a rail viaduct.  The rail viaduct was removed over a decade ago.  The viaduct that was removed as was a street and it wasn't historic. 

OK. Well look at picture 1 and imagine a food truck. the steps that are already there and the connectivity that was just lost for not only walking but cycling. Where was the discusion? There was none.

From my understanding, that old Shipyards viaduct was taken down to help the creek flow better.  I really don't see what the big deal is about it.

Noone

June 24, 2012, 04:16:27 AM
^That wasn't a rail viaduct.  The rail viaduct was removed over a decade ago.  The viaduct that was removed as was a street and it wasn't historic. 

OK. Well look at picture 1 and imagine a food truck. the steps that are already there and the connectivity that was just lost for not only walking but cycling. Where was the discusion? There was none.

From my understanding, that old Shipyards viaduct was taken down to help the creek flow better.  I really don't see what the big deal is about it.

The big deal is that the Public Trust is just being totally crushed in this community and the decisions are backroom deals that are circumventing the process and one doesn't have to look to far to see the recent city council disaster with ad volorem tax revenue with FIND. 2012-273. Who gets the credit for leaving $500,000 on the table? We are a joke.

5 hours out from a cleanup of Hogans Creek at Washington and Catherine. Anyone going? You can visually see for yourself the issue that will immediately exist. Please, on the next Urban Core Construction update show a picture from Bay St. and the restoration project of this dredge that was never before Waterways.     

thelakelander

June 24, 2012, 06:37:29 AM
I've already taken images for the next urban update.  If you can, take a picture while you're at the cleanup and email it to me.

Noone

June 24, 2012, 07:15:00 AM
Lake, your killing me. Your second home is the Jacksonville Historical Society you are probably in one of the best positions to be on this issue more than most people in this community. Hogans Creek is your backyard. I'm not picking on you but I must say that I'm in shock with another opportunity that is lost and no outrage from anyone from MJ.

Cleanup two hours out. Lets see who shows up. I know for me personally this will be one of the toughest years to tell the Commissioners of FIND that we are so LOST.

thelakelander

June 24, 2012, 07:23:43 AM
Lol, Noone, you're killing me, too.  I haven't witnessed a huge missed opportunity by the removal of the viaduct but if you think there was something lost, write about it and we'll run your story as a guest article.  Hundreds of people have taken advantage over the years, so the opportunity for you and your cause is there.  You just have to be willing to do it instead of waiting for others to do it for you.

You practically live in Hogans Creek.  JHS is more like my fourth or fifth home. I'm literally spend just as much time out of town as I do in it (not to mention everything I'm involved with when I'm here).  If you want something included in the construction update that you may have think I missed, help me out by snapping a shot and emailing or texting it to me.  I can't do it all alone.  It would be greatly appreciated. 

NavyGuyAN

June 24, 2012, 07:26:58 AM
Hey Noone! Hopefully I'll finally get to met you and a few other ppl from MJ. I wanted to kayak today but I'll be walking the banks with the Jacksonville Jaycees. Will we see u out there!
Ryan

Noone

June 24, 2012, 05:08:23 PM
Ryan, It was a pleasure meeting you today as well and one day soon we will just tear it up fishing and kayaking under the brand new no fishing signs Downtown.

But today's adventure and clean up  was all the result of the energy and excitement of the Jacksonville Jaycees. I arrived at 9 but I had the feeling that I was late because there were already so many people there and just filling up the blue bags. There were people on both sides of the creek. Someone brought a canoe and it was in the water.

Vivian Harrell was there and after getting a hug and just knowing that she was there gives you that extra feeling that you know that she is also here on a Sunday morning and this is not a fluff site. Saw some old faces and some new. Duncan, Sarah, and Joe. Some new faces Jessie, Molly, Ryan, it was a pleasure to finally meet you and can't wait to go kayaking with you Downtown.

The true highlight of the cleanup was the team effort by the Jacksonville Jaycees to get out a shopping cart that was submerged and right in the middle of the creek. Dave Roman and the administration need to give the Jaycees some props because this cart was right in the middle of the new launch. there is no way you would miss it. But Molly and the other woman (sorry someone help me out with her name) that was in the creek joining her with the shovels prying this cart from its sedimentary bond with two ropes attached and a team pulling effort from the banks made it happen. Once that wheel popped the surface you knew it was coming out and heading to the garbage pile.

Congratulations to everyone with today's cleanup especially the Jacksonville Jaycees. What an effort. Congratulations to Dave Roman and the administration and can't wait to hear the announcements next week at Tillie Fowler Park.

Hogans Creek is one piece of a water, creek, river, connectivity piece of a puzzle that will allow Mayor Brown to make Downtown a Destination and not a pass through as we want to tell the world to Visit Jacksonville on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

Who's next?

 

Noone

July 20, 2012, 04:25:26 AM
I am Downtown.

After participating in Wend. Evening CoWorkJax fast pith and listening to 5 entrepreneurial presentations by 1.Kitchen Sync, 2.Weight Loss Coffee, 3. SCORE, 4. Law Enforcement Hub, and 5. Restroom Alert I wanted to continue in joining Mayor Brown in making Downtown a Destination and not a pass through and that is what I did the next day by kayaking on Hogans Creek.

I put in at the new kayak launch at Catherine St. High tide was around 10:30 and I wanted to catch the outgoing tide. Also With President Obama visiting Jacksonville I wanted to mark this period of Jacksonville history by being Downtown and fishing under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways and that is exactly what I did and what an adventure it was.

With an outgoing tide the bird activity was strong. The shopping cart depth meter chart is showing one wheel just out of the water. The wind is strong and I'm just thinking of just what it will be like in the river. Going under Bay St. And the new massive dredging and widening project that also was never before Waterways is indicating a chop in the river that has you sitting up straight and paying acute attention to the paddle that lies in front of you. The benefit of this open Waterway test before you have to commit to entering the strong currents of the river is to allow for anyone to change their mind as it relates to safety. My destination was the cavernous pockets under Berkman Plaza-Plaza at Berkman.

Many of you who have kayaked this with me in the past may recall how we would take the kayak out to the mouth and sometimes turn around and head back on Hogans Creek. Today as I approached the tip of the northern most Pier even though  there was a chop it felt managable so around it I went. The storm clouds were building and were still in the distance. When I got to Berkman I was able to take it under and then had a great time fishing. I brought a radio and while President Obama is making a scene at the Prime Osborn I'm participating in a Downtown Destination River Activity that you can only dream about. I caught 5 reds, 3 drum, 1 croaker, and 1 catfish. The rain was coming down hard. After the rain stopped it was time to take it back.

The tide is still heading out. I emerge under Berkman next to the Riverwalk and I'm just staring at the Public Pier. The recent news stories on TV about Intuition Ale House with Ben Harris and Jerry Mallot with the chamber should be the biggest wake up call for this community.

So here is my trip back. Instead of getting out at a floating pocket Pier next to the Riverwalk that is UNDER CONSTRUCTION to connect to Bay ST. I now have to take it back to Catherine St. Now don't get me wrong it's a lot better than knowing that I would be paddling back to the marina at Metro Park. The Berkman marina is empty except for one boat. Garbage is floating everywhere especially after the heavy rain. How are we going to market this to visitors?

I'm doing a Vivian Harrell blue bag cleanup on the way back just targeting the floating bottles. I'm able to take it under all the piers and that makes for a fun paddle. The shopping cart depth meter chart is showing the handle bars and the creek is ripping out with just so much garbage floating everywhere. How are we going to market this to visitors?

When I reach the rapids of Hogans Creek I do give it the old college try and paddle through it. Just can't. So it is at this point that everyone needs to realize that you are now going to have to get out of your kayak and walk to deeper water again. For the diehards this won't be a problem. So be aware of the tides. How are we going to market this to visitors?

Yesterday was special on so many levels. I took pictures and shared them with the Commissioners of FIND last night in Fernandina. I told them that I still don't have a sponsor. I find such inspiration and motivation in what they are doing as they represent the East Coast of the state of Florida.

Who's next?

I am Downtown and why you aren't.


Noone

September 08, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
Today making a scene with a tactical paddle that just allowed enough time before the water level dropped before the fun factor would escape this opportunity to showcase another Downtown Destination River activity on our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative was Mike Clark with the Times Union and Myself.

We met behind the Old St. Luke's Hospital and my secret intent was to have a Vivian Harrell blue bag already filled before Mike arrived but he was already there and with an enthusiasm on both of our parts we were ready to have some fun on this waterway. My 6 single kayaks were stolen from my residence and Mike had heard about that but thank goodness they didn't steal the two seaters.

It was an outgoing tide. Water clarity was good. The level of the water made me nervous if we would make it all the way up to Beaver and Wahington and the new kayak launch at Catherine St. Mike wanted to shoot some video and the bird activity was very strong from the start to the finish.

With the cleanup next week there is plenty of garbage again every where. It is some of the thickest garbage that I have ever seen. As we paddle and it's been 6 weeks or so since I've been on this Waterway I'm thinking is there a shot that Mike will have where there isn't garbage in the shot. Like I said the bird activity was strong and those shots of a mature thick tree canopy will bring us all back to a good place.

The paddle up to Washington and Beaver was relaxed with little wind and an outgoing tide that was steady and not ripping. The rapids of Hogans creek were just barely passible? Mike was capturing a beautiful white heron that was perched in the leaning tree centered right in the middle of the creek with a lush green backdrop that was a poster card opportunity that seems to be captured whenever anyone is paddling this creek.

We made it pass The kayak launch at Catherine St. One person was there just getting up. Altough the camps are still dotting the area that was the only person we saw. The stretch of hard sand was catching us and after one or two adjustments we made it to the barrier that creates the disconnect of Hogans Creek.

I shared with Mike that Hogans Creek continues on the other side of the road. Klutho Park and Confederate Park. Are they important  and have their own issues. Yes. I've been drawn to this part of Hogans. I remember doing a paddle with City Life and he showed me Klutho Park and Hogans creek that runs through there.

We have the Upper, Middle, Lower Basin of the St. Johns River
We have the Upper, Middle, Lower sections of Hogans Creek.

I'll visit the Upper and Middle but give me the Lower. I want to. We should all want to be proud of these urban Waterway treasures. The lower for me I've seen Manatees, gators, turtles, the blue crabs dancing by the dozens when you catch it right on that sandy stretch from Washington to Beaver and the sun with a clarity off the sand is a sign of a healthy ecosystem. Dana Morton before he left the city had said that things are improving. I've caught reds, trout, croaker, have seen schools of mullet. And I don't consider myself to be a real fisherman. But it's FUN!

So now with the hardest part of the paddle behind us Mike and I are floating with the current and again the bird activity is strong. We make it by the rapids of Hogans Creek and we are scraping the bottom. Once past our original launch site we are taking it through the Maxwell House plant. The shopping cart depth meter chart is showing two wheels exposed and about another foot below that the water line.

The sandy beach is exposed within the Maxwell House property as is the other one near Bay Street. As we enter under Bay St. to the river you and everyone else can See the massive widening that has taken place and was never before the Jacksonville Waterways Commission. Why not? look at the restoration if that is what you want to call it. metro jax captures it with the pictures that are on this story. I digress.

As we enter the river we are still slightly sheltered. The wind has picked up. I was going to turn around and take it back but decided to keep going. I mentioned to Mike in the past that at this point of any paddle you need to reasses your kayaking skills because once you get out in the main channell your going left. Again it gets back to safety zones. Nothing more nothing less.

We get out past the last pier and Mike is getting some great shots. The ospreys are flying above us. A heron is perched under a part of the pier and being in a kayak with this angle we are the only ones that know he is even there. There is a vibrancy and excitement that just you want to share this treasure with everyone that Visits Jacksonville.

We are past the pier and the look and feel of the river just engulfs you as all of a sudden you have now entered into a new paddling zone. We are heading out and now are taking it back in. It was so much fun to share the morning with Mike.

As another poster writes "We are a sum of its parts" And the part I shared with Mike is my concern about Access.

I so much wanted to share some other Downtown Waterway Destinations with him and they are all on the Northbank. McCoys Creek, Sidney Geffen Park, Ram dock, Going under the courthouse parking lot and Berkman and the number one Downtown Destination location is the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier Shipyards III.

But we did Hogans Creek. A city issue. A neighborhood issue, A Federal Issue, A State issue, A Downtown Issue. It's an issue that's ready for action and everyone is ready to participate.

Let's Make It Happen.

Who's next?

Noone

September 19, 2012, 03:46:31 AM
New survey stakes next to Hogans Creek at Washington and Beaver. Any idea what's going on?

Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting today in 5 1/2 hours. presentation by the administration (RK) on the agenda. Still waiting on a letter of support from the administration (RK) that can be taken to the Jacksonville Waterways Commission and the Jacksonville city council as it relates to the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier Shipyards III.

But Hey! That may all be water under the bridge (Public Access to our Pier) 2011-364, (RAM DOCK)not before Waterways.

IBM Smarter Cities Challenge-What is one of their top recommendations?
Remember SCAD?

Four days ago 12 people made a scene as part of the International Coastal Cleanup and before the Jaguars home opener at Hogans Creek and pulled out more than 1300 pounds of garbage in two hours.

A special shout out to Vivian Harrell who is no longer with Keep Jacksonville  Beautiful.  Vivian you were a real motivator and inspiration.

A special shout out to Keith Myers after telling him that I had 6 kayak stolen from my residence (Dist.4 is a crime wave) brought his and gave it to me and that LLBean Manatee kayak I know for me is the new poster child in continuing to bring awareness to not only Hogans Creek but other Urban Core Waterways as we get ready to tell the world to

VISIT JACKSONVILLE
Or
DON'T VISIT JACKSONVILLE

So 4 days ago with a lot of inward emotion it was a solo kayak and cleanup paddle of Hogans Creek. The weather was beautiful and the tides were high.  Too bad we didn't have the previous floating armada of FIeld, PeeJayEss, The Capt. And others congregating in spots that were solid one or two Vivian Harrell blue bag guarantees.

Shout out to Justin from UNF and Richard there with his Mom and working for his Boy Scout service hours for there help in that when I had a bag filled I'd paddle by and do the handoff. Full bag for an empty bag.

As Vivian would always say "Hogans Creek is not a fluff site." Any way the paddle around the creek was almost over before you knew it. I did take the kayak through the Maxwell House Plant. The shopping cart depth meter chart was a good foot over the wheels. Like I said high tide. Bird activity was minimal.

I paddled out to the river and just picked up primarily floating debris. The tide had changed and the paddle back wasn't bad.

I don't remember the names of all the others but what a team effort by a small number in two hours.

Waterways today.
A new DIA, city council vote pending on Board members.
Hogans Creek.

Who's next?

Noone

September 24, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Whats going on with Hogans Creek? Survey stakes everywhere. Is this the start of a PUBLIC, PRIVATE, PARTNERSHIP DISASTER? Does the administration even have a clue as to what's going on?
Renee Finley
Will the 100's and 100's of marked trees be saved or removed?
Is there mitigation on this if the whole area is clear cut?
Should this be in front of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission?
Any news media outlet that wants to do a news story just call me and you can have all the footage and not to mention the fun that we will have when you see this Downtown Urban Waterway Destination.
Have a tandem kayak and you can sit in the front and just capture a sustainable ecosystem that appears to be ready to be destroyed.
Special shout out to any news media and regional partners outside of Duval county.
DEMOLITION! It's not just buildings.
Be concerned.
What's going on?

billy

September 25, 2012, 06:29:46 AM
Do the trees have "x"s painted on them?

thelakelander

September 25, 2012, 06:48:16 AM
Where are the trees in question?

bobsim

September 25, 2012, 08:31:20 AM
 Please, help us out with some more info. Was at Klutho Park Sunday and didn't see any stakes or marked trees.  I wasn't looking for them but fairly sure I would have noticed new paint on trees and survey stakes... Where's this going on?

Noone

September 25, 2012, 11:03:07 AM
New survey stakes next to Hogans Creek at Washington and Beaver. Any idea what's going on?

Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting today in 5 1/2 hours. presentation by the administration (RK) on the agenda. Still waiting on a letter of support from the administration (RK) that can be taken to the Jacksonville Waterways Commission and the Jacksonville city council as it relates to the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier Shipyards III.

But Hey! That may all be water under the bridge (Public Access to our Pier) 2011-364, (RAM DOCK)not before Waterways.

IBM Smarter Cities Challenge-What is one of their top recommendations?
Remember SCAD?

Four days ago 12 people made a scene as part of the International Coastal Cleanup and before the Jaguars home opener at Hogans Creek and pulled out more than 1300 pounds of garbage in two hours.

A special shout out to Vivian Harrell who is no longer with Keep Jacksonville  Beautiful.  Vivian you were a real motivator and inspiration.

A special shout out to Keith Myers after telling him that I had 6 kayak stolen from my residence (Dist.4 is a crime wave) brought his and gave it to me and that LLBean Manatee kayak I know for me is the new poster child in continuing to bring awareness to not only Hogans Creek but other Urban Core Waterways as we get ready to tell the world to

VISIT JACKSONVILLE
Or
DON'T VISIT JACKSONVILLE

So 4 days ago with a lot of inward emotion it was a solo kayak and cleanup paddle of Hogans Creek. The weather was beautiful and the tides were high.  Too bad we didn't have the previous floating armada of FIeld, PeeJayEss, The Capt. And others congregating in spots that were solid one or two Vivian Harrell blue bag guarantees.

Shout out to Justin from UNF and Richard there with his Mom and working for his Boy Scout service hours for there help in that when I had a bag filled I'd paddle by and do the handoff. Full bag for an empty bag.

As Vivian would always say "Hogans Creek is not a fluff site." Any way the paddle around the creek was almost over before you knew it. I did take the kayak through the Maxwell House Plant. The shopping cart depth meter chart was a good foot over the wheels. Like I said high tide. Bird activity was minimal.

I paddled out to the river and just picked up primarily floating debris. The tide had changed and the paddle back wasn't bad.

I don't remember the names of all the others but what a team effort by a small number in two hours.

Waterways today.
A new DIA, city council vote pending on Board members.
Hogans Creek.

Who's next?


This was on the radar 6 days ago.
Washington and Beaver.
Both sides of the creek.
 Also new survey stakes behind the Jacksonville Historical Society and casket factory next to the creek.

fsujax

September 25, 2012, 11:15:46 AM
it may have something to do with the ash remediation project.

fieldafm

September 25, 2012, 11:21:04 AM
it may have something to do with the ash remediation project.

The ash remediation work (which has not started) is way North of the area Noone is refering to.  There is a large strip of land that is owned by COJ along the Creek's shore.  Assuming the person that owns the two parcels next to Beaver/Washington is having the land surveyed for future site work. 

Miss Fixit

September 25, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Those survey stakes are all good - more later!

Noone

September 25, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
Do the trees have "x"s painted on them?
Those survey stakes are all good - more later!

Billy the trees have green tape around them and are numbered. Appears to be on both sides of the creek and are they part of the P3 formula Public and Private land. So are they to be saved or removed?

Where's Renee Finley and the Administration on this?

The survey stakes are different and so what is the good news now?

Should we be concerned? YES!

billy

September 26, 2012, 06:23:29 AM
Appears (fingers crossed) to mean trees to be saved.
Wasn't there funding in place for a pedestrian/bike path?

Noone

November 24, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
I am Downtown.

Two days out from a special Jacksonville Waterways Committee meeting by last years chair Gary Anderson, and JWC members Scott Shine, Lane Burnett, and Ralph Hodges on the upcoming FIND grant application cycle for 2013 projects that has 12 projects on a list and the Oak Harbor Boat Ramp and the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier Shipyards III aren't on the list had me returning to Hogans Creek. There is now a DIA and CRA component to this process.

We are so Lost.

The recent story and video by Mike Clark with the Florida Times Union was another reason to make a scene today as we continue to give Thanks for the opportunities that are right there for everyone instead of the self serving behind the scenes and out of the Sunshine decisions that are being made behind closed doors.

So with clear blue skies an outgoing tide I put in behind the old St. Luke's Hospital and casket factory. the homeless camps were active and I said hello to a few people as I made it past the shopping cart depth meter chart that was showing two wheels. Once I entered the Maxwell House Plant I spotted a plover darting around the rocks. A kingfisher was also a welcome site. The aroma of coffee was pleasantly strong.

I brought my fishing poles and had a dozen shrimp and my other objective was to fish under the brand new NO Fishing signs that was never before the Jacksonville Waterways Commission near the Downtown Core. Once past the super dredge project that was also never before the Jacksonville Waterways Commission the boat traffic is very heavy and the tide is ripping. This was also a lesson in evaluating a safety concern for entering the river. The swirls and the current around that first pier will have you paddling hard. once on the other side there is a boat anchored up. I told them that I was taking it to Berkman. I hugged the straight bulkheads of the Northbank as I took it to Berkman Plaza-Plaza at Berkman.

The Fishing was fantastic. Had two reds, two trout and two mangrove snapper. Lost 3 in the pilings. The river and riverwalk was active. Boat traffic continued to be strong and something to be aware of. It was important for me to be on our Downtown Waterway knowing that decisions are being made and our opportunity to participate in how our taxpayer dollars are being spent especially to our Waterways are being circumvented. This is not good.

The paddle back was swift. A different boat was anchored next to the last pier next to Hogans Creek. Spotted the plover as I entered the Maxwell House Plant. The smell of the coffee was very strong. The shopping cart depth meter chart has a good two wheels exposed. Water clarity was very good. Unfortunately the garbage continues to be thick everywhere.

Lets continue to be Thankful for our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative.

Who's next?

Noone

December 02, 2012, 06:23:56 PM
I am Downtown. I'm All in. And Why you aren't.

Today with an out of town guest it was time after the Secret FIND list was announced at a Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting that nobody knew about to make a tactical, epoch, kayak paddle that will provide a spark for Public Access and Economic opportunity to our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative in our newly created Authority Zone.

We stopped by the Public Fishing Pier to be told that the Public is not allowed at the Public Fishing Pier today. I'm All In.

Beautiful weekend for this snowbird who is in shorts and a t shirt. Can they do that? Sure they can it's an Authority. And our city council members just voted themselves Free Parking as we are now driving by all the Public/Private Parking lots that were charging big bucks.

We had a time crunch and put in at Hogans Creek. Like I said beautiful conditions for this December kayak paddle in a t shirt. Put in at the P3 launch behind the Old St. Luke's Hospital and casket factory. Incoming tide and the homeless camps that are empty are dotting the area.

The paddle out had the shopping cart depth meter chart showing the wheels 5 inches below the water. Water clarity was poor. Little wind and we just enjoyed the paddle out. Boat traffic was light.

With the high incoming tides we tried some different spots. Primarily worked the piers and the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways. We had a red and a catfish.

The paddle back against the current especially going around the piers was sporty. The tide was ripping and this was a paddle and trip that just had us doing this without regard to easier current and tides.

The highlight for me occurred while paddling around the pier a cormorant popped up right next to my paddle as I was cutting through the water in a forward stroke motion and as my paddle enters the water the bird pops up and it's just as startled as I am and it's upward flight which was right next to me and literally all I would have had to do was put my hand in the water and pick him up in the air.

The tide is still coming in and the shopping cart depth meter chart is out of view. We spot a plover not only on the way in but had seen one on the way out. Ospreys were everywhere. he asked me if I had ever seen a gator. I told him a couple of times. Once with Tom Chatman from Orlando. Another time with Susan Cooper Eastman. But unfortunately the Maxwell House Plant had a trapper called in and now I can't report or share with anyone if there is one there or not. Have seen a manatee before. How cool is that.

Did a small cleanup and took it back to the house as we navigated out.

10 days out from the next full meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting that will go over the new Secret 2013 FIND grant cycle project list that will now have to be approved by our full Jacksonville city council thanks to 2012-402.

Will the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier be on the list?

Hey Governor Scott, Let's get to Work- Just not in Jacksonville.

Are we 9 days out from the next DIA Board meeting? Anyone.

VISIT JACKSONVILLE
         If
You can FIND us.

Who's next?

Noone

December 30, 2012, 07:07:03 AM
Hogans Creek! I miss you.

Today in Downtown Jacksonville you have to ask. Who is going to put out the WELCOME MAT if you want to Promote, Celebrate, Preserve, and Access our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative in our Urban Core?

Chamber of commerce day and I took it to a natural kayak launch under Duval St. behind the Old St. Lukes Hospital and next to the casket factory. Conditions were ideal. Outgoing tide. The debris is back  not at elevated levels that we have experienced before. The shopping cart depth meter chart is showing two wheels exposed. See a kingfisher and his flight and presence just follows me out through the Maxwell House Plant.

Great paddling conditions. Outgoing tide so it was a good paddle to the brand new Waterways NO FISHING signs from the Hyatt all the way around to Berkman Plaza. Paddled by the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier and was saying to myself WTF ( Whiting, Trout, Flounder)

Entered with room to spare under the brand new NO FISHING signs. Did not see one person out on the Riverwalk and not even 1 boat in the 50 slip marina. What an experience to enter a vast cavern in the heart of our Downtown.

It wasn't long and I had a fish on. I have to give props to Captain Roger Bump and his fishing tips so I'm sharing this one with him.

I couldn't stay long but I'll definitely be back.

Now going back with the tide I'm just flying through the water. Take it under the pier and the birds are startled because you are just so close to them and they don't see you coming. The shopping cart depth meter chart is now showing the handlebars. The kingfisher hasn't left and its good to see that he is still there.

Did a good 1 full Vivian Harrell blue cleanup bag of the area then took it back to the house.

Who's next?

Special shout out to any media outside of Duval County.

Commissioners of FIND

Mayor Brown lets keep the kayak momentum going. Your getting props in my book.

Members of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission.

Anyone with the Recreational Fishing Alliance.

Board members of the St. Johns River Water Management District

Anyone on the Jacksonville city council. Councilman Love you have seen Hogans Creek and get pats on the back.

Tera Meeks
Kelly Boree
Paul Anderson
Daniel O'Byrne
Mark Middlebrook
Lisa Rinamon
Susan Grandin
Bonnie Barnes
Dave Roman

Jacksonville Khan Make It Happen.
   


Hogans Creek! I still miss you.

A year later and yesterday's kayak adventure was a rewarding challenge on so many levels as this community moves forward with a VISION for Downtown Jacksonville with a new 20 square mile plus Authority Zone that anyone accessing our Waterways will have us playing that game. (Can't recall the name of that game.) But it goes something like this. YOU RUN and STOP.

Hey, new Authority. MAY I put my kayak in at a safety zone next to a brand new connection from the Historic Promised 680' Downtown Public Pier (Shipyards III) up to Bay St. that would assist in creating an organic cluster of spontaneous economic growth and development that also would allow everyone to Promote, Celebrate, Protect, and Access our St. Johns River our American Heritage River a Federal Initiative in your newly created Downtown Authority?

No, you MAY not.

Ben Warner, JCCI. We need to kayak Downtown before 2025!

So yesterday after listening to the fishing shows and still debating if I'll do the Polar Plunge out at Jacksonville Beach which  I did last year (Bucket list) and ran into At-Large and current alternate on the Jacksonville Waterways Commission Jacksonville city councilman Stephen Joost it was time to make a scene again DOWNTOWN.

  Yesterday's adventure was so important on so many levels. Where was I going to put in and do it safely. The weather with the rain and then briefly clearing out and the wind is the most unpredictable factor when navigating the open waters Downtown and lets throw in a little bit of that ripping current that if you don't have your game on you are going BY, BY. I literally was stopping and getting out and looking at the river, the boat traffic, It was an outgoing tide. Did I want to put in at RCB and cross the river?
Catherine St. On Hogans Creek would mean walking through mud to get to navigable water. The marina and that launch which is a real sporty trip in better conditions. Finally, I decided to take it behind the casket factory and the old St. Luke's Hospital on Hogans Creek.

I put in under Duval street. The homeless camps are increasing and lining the shore on the other side. Didn't see anyone. It was an outgoing tide and the herons were in the trees and the shopping cart depth meter chart has the wheels exposed and about 5 inches from the handlebars.

Entering the Maxwell House Plant the sand bar is exposed and I'm greeted by a kingfisher that is perched on top of one of the buildings. he flys off and the way that bird flys with little bursts and gliding with precision he circles around me and heads back up the creek. At the same time a plover has launched from its rocky perch and flys in front of me a foot above the water and his flight path is a straight line of 100's of yards to another concrete bank.

Once out in the open water you can see the tide break. It's ripping out pretty good. it's about 3pm and so I'm also factoring in how much light I have before darkness can create another safety issue. The first pier was low enough that I could paddle through and not expose myself to the full current of the river. If you can get under this pier the rest of the piers are a piece of cake. I took it straight to Berkman Plaza- Plaza at Berkman and paddled straight under and into the darkness of a sunny window that was now just outside. This was going to be a short trip and I did bring my fishing poles and in the spirit of true MJ'ism I made a tactical urban cast under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways and had a respectable 22" red. I wasn't planning on keeping any of the fish but he swallowed that jig so into the cooler.

I didn't stay long and wanted to try other spots and the wind and the weather conditions were really changing fast. There are short windows of opportunity on the water Downtown and you can find yourself trapped real fast. naturally you come out of this awesome Downtown Destination and you are just staring at the SHIPYARDS III pier. Given the time of day and a Bowl weekend with a vibrancy thatyou  just want to scream "Hey Jacksonville" How about a pocket pier floating dock right here so Everyone can take it up to Bay St. Our new DIA can still way in on a resolution as it relates to the 2013 FIND grant application cycle 2012-402 that could Make this Happen and we could call it a Pub Crawl Paddle to Mark's. OK I'm saying "HAPPY NEW YEAR!"

I check out the piers and I'm happy to report that I've now caught fish at all the piers. I spent the most time at the one by Hogans Creek this time and it was because of the weather. With the sun starting to fade the orange glow from the arena as I make my way back up Hogans Creek in the sheltered wind that is picking up. The tide is still heading out. An Osprey is now perched where the Kingfisher was earlier. The shopping cart depth meter is showing the handlebars below the water. The homeless camps have a fire that's smoldering but still there is no one around.

A year later and who is out of our lives.
Vivian Harrell-A true inspiration. Hogans Creek is not a fluff site.
Dan O'Byrne - We never got a chance to kayak this with councilman Joost. Hey councilman Joost, forget the Polar Plunge this year we need to kayak Hogans.
Paul Anderson-There may be a lot more people joining you!

A year ahead.
Governor Scott- Let's get to work- Just not in Jacksonville
Pam Bondi
Angela Corey
Cindy Laquidara
Carla Miller
Tony Allegretti
Dave Roman
Tera Meeks
Mark Middlebrook
Aaron Bowman
Kelley Boree
Terry Lorrince
Jim Bailey
Don Harris
Lisa Rinaman
Ben Warner
Any news media outside and inside of Duval county.
Let's kayak Downtown before 2025

Who's next?

I am Downtown and why you aren't.

stephendare

December 30, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
What a great group of people!

Susan Grandin is an amazing woman anyways.  One of the powerhouses behind the florida land conservation!

Tera Meeks
Kelly Boree
Paul Anderson
Daniel O'Byrne
Mark Middlebrook
Lisa Rinamon
Susan Grandin
Bonnie Barnes
Dave Roman

Noone

April 01, 2013, 05:49:04 AM
The next Jacksonville Waterways Commission meeting is 4/10/13.
I'm planning a RICO paddle on Hogans Creek. Anyone in?
Is there just one person that wants to write a check for a buck to 2009-442 the Artificial Reef Trust Fund that I will deliver personally on your behalf in 10 days.

I am Downtown and why you aren't.

Noone

November 22, 2013, 08:55:25 PM
On the 50Th anniversary of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the famous quote  " Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country".  It was time for another BOLD tactical urban core kayak paddle. What can we do for our city?

Earlier in the day I had the pleasure of briefly seeing Emily Liska who we would all agree is an iconic piece of this community and all the important work that is being done at the Jacksonville Historical Society. I was thinking of launching my kayak at a couple of options but decided on the Jerry Spinks kayak beach location behind the casket factory. I miss that man.

The weather conditions were OK. It was after 4 and I knew that I wouldn't be there long.  It was an outgoing tide with little wind. It was a time crunch and I also wanted to put in and just throw a line in and see what would happen. Had one bite. Caught a blue crab. But the real surprise was the big snapping turtle. It's the biggest one that I ever caught. You really want to tell everyone to VISIT JACKSONVILLE.

Another reason for wanting to make a scene in this part of our new 20 square mile DIA zone was the DIA resolution of support for the USS Charles F. Adams at the 11/20/13 DIA Board meeting. DIA Board member Mike Saylor commented that we have over 3 miles of riverfront in this new zone. Where are the access points?

Public, Private, Partnership. Still trying to wrap my arms around it.

I didn't stay long. Did a respectable Vivian Harrell Blue bag cleanup and left it on the dumpster.

Who's next?

Noone

December 23, 2013, 05:08:17 AM
Remember Hogans Creek.

The last home game for the Jaguars against the Titans and the 14 year career of Brad Meester comes to an end.

2013-384- The armory for a buck and never the consideration by an elected legislative representative for an amendment for 24/7 Public Access to Hogans Creek and the legislation withdrawn.

2013-380- We are so LOST. Somebody ask Scott Shine about this one. We can't FIND FIND.

No Shoes
No Shirt
No Money
No Problem
Visit Jacksonville!

And so in the spirit of RICO it was time to showcase our trophy asset in another attempt at a unique retail opportunity on a tributary that leads to our St. johns River an American Heritage River a FEDERAL Initiative in our new highly restricted DIA zone.

Given the tides, time of day, weather conditions, activities taking place in our new DIA zone, wanting to be All In, joining Mayor Brown in making Downtown a Destination and not a pass through I decided on launching at the official Mayor Brown kayak launch at the end of Catherine St.

I was catching the last of the outgoing tide and my ultimate trip was to originally have launched at Jacksonville's Downtown International Redneck kayak launch next to the School Board and the brand new JEA fence by country Boy's fence company ( what was wrong with the old fence?) and then take it across the river and fish under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways. But the wind had picked up. The tidal conditions weren't Jax Chamber, DIA Chillin or OED Spacin, Boat traffic would be a factor, and I wanted to remain in the Entertainment District so it was back to Hogans Creek.

Like I said it was the last of the outgoing tide and it was early. Upon arrival a homeless camp was breaking camp with about 6 people and they wished me well as I was dragging my kayak to navigable water. My other stop where you have to get out was the rapids of Hogans Creek. Once past this I was back into the floating debris field and the garbage that is lining both sides of the banks. The bird activity was chopped for this trip. By that I mean a Great Blue Heron was flushed and it was the only bird that I saw in the beginning of the paddle and it's pattern of flight against a clear sky wiped away the frustrating start of this trip.

When I got to the mouth of the river the wind was strong and like I said it was the last of the outgoing and my destination would have been Berkman Plaza-Plaza at Berkman this is the open river not a retention pond so I opted to  stay and remember the times and create some new ones with Hogans Creek. So I anchored up and started fishing at the massive dredging project that by the way was never before the Jacksonville Waterways Commission. I digress.

I took it in to the Maxwell House property and had two catfish. It was Gameday and so I continued back to Duval St. The shopping cart depth meter chart was a foot plus under the wheels and it was fun to listen to the pregame and the increased activity as it got closer to game time.

I just knew that the fishing would be hard at this time but there were also other reasons for Making a Scene and wanting to provide a spark in showing an organic activity in a dead zone that if more of these nodes are open than we can tell everyone to Visit Jacksonville.

The recent 12/18/13 DIA Board meeting was a HUGE positive meeting.
The recent DIA Board resolution of support for the USS. Charles F. Adams can now be backed up with a $50,000 shot in the arm.
The DIA Board resolution that now wants to get back their 6 projects that they voted away to OED before the new guy Aundra Wallace started.
The talk that MOSH may want a kayak launch next to the Main St. Redo on the Southbank is very positive.
The CRA/DIA in the USA is wrapping up.
The civic council director with previous JEDC (Shipyards) and FSCJ experience?
Palms Fish Camp- sign me up!
Who will be our new MarshKeeper?
Vision 2025
Paul Astleford is a hero.

Remember Hogans Creek.

Who's next?

Noone

January 23, 2014, 11:40:44 AM
Just left the 1/23/14  great 2014 FIND subcommittee meeting of the Jacksonville Waterways Commission and it seems that there has been some massive clearing on Hogans Creek. Does anyone know what's going on? Planning a RICO paddle when the weather breaks. Let's hope we don't lose the canopy on McCoys Creek too.

Noone

March 03, 2014, 03:26:09 AM
HERO'S ON THE WATER

It was a kayak tournament that I participated in and even though I didn't catch a fish it was a game changer for me as I hope we can all come together as a community.

At the captains meeting I wore my Mayor Alvin Brown's Kayak Adventures t shirt. The foremat of the event was that you could basically launch anywhere. Some were talking about going to the Jetties, Dames Point, Guana, but for me I wanted to make a scene Downtown and provide another spark that will send a message to the world that is very simple. VISIT JACKSONVILLE!

For me the tides couldn't have been any worse given the time for the tournament. So on Sat. I was joined by some other good kayakers and anglers and we decided to put in at the official Mayor Brown Kayak Launch at RCB. It was an incoming tide and it was ripping. The only other time that I launched Downtown in these conditions was when Mayor Peyton was having a press conference on the Southbank. if you have the ability to pick your time and conditions it will make for a better fun experience.

So on Sunday I launched at another official Mayor Brown kayak launch and that was Metropolitan Park Marina. I arrived after 6:30 am and was glad that it was open. more on this later.

Once in the water my destination was Berkman Plaza- Plaza at Berkman and to fish under the brand new No Fishing signs that was never before Waterways. Again given the time of the tournament and the tides it just wasn't a plus for me. The highlight of this trip for me was being near the end of the Promised Historic 680' Downtown Public Pier (Shipyards III) 2010-604 Oh and by the way there is $5,300,000 in the Historic Preservation Trust Fund that was disclosed at the 2/26/14 DIA Special meeting. I digress. Anyway I'm in my kayak and one of the the coolest things to ever experience is the changing of the tide. I witnessed this at the inlet of Exchange Club Island one day as well. But to be in the river next to this iconic structure was special. So now the tide is heading out

At this point I make a decision to take it back to Hogans Creek. The shopping cart depth meter chart is under water. The homeless camps though few are highly visible given the massive vegetation clearing. I take it all the way up to Washington and Beaver. The bird activity was strong . Saw more turtles which was very cool.

It had been awhile since Hogans Creek has touched this soul and now catching the outgoing tide later in the day made for the journey back to Metropolitan Park Marina the most relaxed journey back. There was a stoic calm the whole time on Hogans Creek. The shopping cart depth meter chart is still completely under water. There wasn't a football game or people anywhere. but that changed when I got back to Metropolitan Park Marina. As I approached the marina and just going with the tide there was a young couple on the dock looking to hook up a (what do you call it) Not a sling? between the dock pilings. Very creative. There was a family that just pulled up with kids and some loaves of bread to feed the gulls. Another father and son came up and asked me if they could fish off the docks. Another couple just riding their bikes by me. The Portolets  are gone and the bathrooms are open. A lot of spontaneous organic activity going on in this dead zone.

I am Downtown and why you aren't.

Who's next?

Noone

March 17, 2014, 01:27:46 PM
Bumping this thread for InnerCityPressure. I will be the site captain for the March 22, 2014 River celebration at Hogans Creek again. A special shout out to Emily Lisska with the Jacksonville Historical Society who has been so gracious over the years with their support of this positive activity.

ICP, I'll be bringing my kayak and if you want to experience this waterway then just show up. Low tide is at 9:12 Downtown and the event is from 8-11 am. As Vivian Harrell a former employee with COJ and an inspiration in past cleanups I would love it when she would say that Hogans Creek is not a fluff site.

You will be amazed at how this area has been cleared of trees and vegetation. I'm thinking that you will only be able to kayak up to the rapids of Hogans Creek.
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