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Friendship Fountain Restoration Project To Break Ground

After several years of a future of uncertainty, work on the restoration of Friendship Fountain will begin this week.

Published August 30, 2010 in Development      319 Comments    Open printer friendly version of this article Print Article


Friendship Fountain - 2006


An image of Friendship Fountain during an era when the pumps worked.

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MAYOR TO OFFICIALLY LAUNCH FRIENDSHIP FOUNTAIN RESTORATION PROJECT

JACKSONVILLE, Fla., Aug. 27, 2010 – Jacksonville Mayor John Peyton will join City Council President Jack Webb, members of the Jacksonville Economic Development Commission and the Public Works Department, and downtown stakeholders to break ground on the $3.1 million project to restore Friendship Fountain.  


WHEN:          

9 a.m., Wednesday, Sept. 1, 2010
               

WHERE:  

Southeast portion of Friendship Fountain, directly behind the Museum of Science & History.
(Attendees may park in the River City Brewing Company parking lot.)
                       

WHAT:  

The Friendship Fountain restoration project is part of Mayor John Peyton’s commitment to revitalize and bring more life downtown. The $3.1 million project includes replacement of the broken concrete areas surrounding the fountain with natural grass surfaces, adding seating opportunities for passive recreation and installing new sidewalks, lighting and trees.  Additionally, the project includes a full refurbishment of the fountain infrastructure to make the fountain fully operational again.  Expected completion is early summer 2011.

***Please note that starting Aug. 27, 2010 and throughout the duration of the restoration, Friendship Fountain and the Southbank Riverwalk, west of the Jacksonville Maritime Museum, will be closed.

Source: City of Jacksonville

Friendship Fountain Park Concept Plan

The project's plans include the removal of existing paved areas and the addition of new landscaping, decorative sidewalks, benches and lighting.  Proposed maintenance improvements to the existing fountain include plumbing, water jets, lighting and controller systems.

Development Update by Ennis Davis







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319 Comments

Noone

August 30, 2010, 06:37:07 AM
I plan on being there.

acme54321

August 30, 2010, 06:50:20 AM
Great news

fsujax

August 30, 2010, 08:16:41 AM
i noticed all the orange fencing around the trees yesterday. Good to see they are going to repair the fountain to its former glory!

KenFSU

August 30, 2010, 08:17:34 AM
This is really great news. Nice to see the city actually making an effort to preserve what we have.

Ocklawaha

August 30, 2010, 08:48:23 AM
Shame we don't get Johnny to install the 500 ft. high fountain in the river...  Guess mind bending progressive thought is just too much to ask for.

OCKLAWAHA

Overstreet

August 30, 2010, 08:53:28 AM
Fountains are pretty but not very "green" when it comes to evaporation and water use. Think about the potable make up water they pump into the fountain on a daily basis when they ask you to conserve water at your house. 

simms3

August 30, 2010, 09:20:07 AM
Oh please, chill out LoL.  I'm excited for this project.

Jason

August 30, 2010, 09:25:08 AM
Very good news.  I think all-in-all this is a well thought out project that should be a great upgrade/repair for the park.

Now, pull the remainder of the money from Met Park and use a bit to fix up the Shipyards property for public use and send all the rest of the cash to the Springfield parks chain.

Captain Zissou

August 30, 2010, 09:25:56 AM
Shame we don't get Johnny to install the 500 ft. high fountain in the river...  Guess mind bending progressive thought is just too much to ask for.

OCKLAWAHA

I'm fine with not having a 500 ft geyser of yellow/brown river water.  Once we clean up the river, then we should consider this.  

Fountains are pretty but not very "green" when it comes to evaporation and water use. Think about the potable make up water they pump into the fountain on a daily basis when they ask you to conserve water at your house.  

They should use a rainwater collection system for supplying the fountain, or at least greywater of some sort.  There's no need to waste potable water on this.

Keith-N-Jax

August 30, 2010, 09:31:42 AM
Oh please, chill out LoL.  I'm excited for this project.

I was thinking the same thing,,,geesh louise!

buckethead

August 30, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
The brown color will not go away. It has been explained to me that it is due to the breaking down of leaves that fall, flow into the river.

acme54321

August 30, 2010, 10:03:37 AM
Yep, that water is never going to be anything but brown.  I grew up near the headwaters of the St. Johns and I have been there.  It's swampwater, and will always be.  The decaying plant matter is what colors it brown like that.

dlupercio

August 30, 2010, 10:17:24 AM
I'm actually ok with this project. Anything that helps with the appeal of downtown is ok with me.

Cliffs_Daughter

August 30, 2010, 10:36:53 AM
I'm going.
Already told my supervisor that I won't be in until at least 9:30.
Who wants to meet me with cameras??

Ocklawaha

August 30, 2010, 11:10:14 AM
Progress in Jacksonville, synonym: "The Day the Earth Stood Still".

OCKLAWAHA

Ethylene

August 30, 2010, 11:20:17 AM
I can be there, but gotta say I'm very concerned this project will get screwed up somehow.

Dapperdan

August 30, 2010, 11:47:13 AM
All of that will be done with just 3.1 million? I certainly hope so. That is a very good use of money.

Coolyfett

August 30, 2010, 11:50:45 AM
Southbank  has needed this for a long time. Would be nice if there was a way for children to interact with the fountain. How high will the jet pump? Can they surpass the previos height? Will skaters still be able to enjoy this area? The grass thing around the fountain is interesting. Glad they are fixing a Southbank landmark.

904Scars

August 30, 2010, 12:08:37 PM
Will skaters still be able to enjoy this area?

Having skated Friendship many a time back in high school I would personally like them to continue their presence, however I'm very very bias and understand that "skaters" often give the wrong vibe. Would not suprise me one bit if the put up "skate stops" or some other preventative measure to keep skaters away. Then again maybe this is prime time to throw in a downtown skatepark?! I'm sure the plans are already set in ink but it's too bad this wasn't thought of before.

tufsu1

August 30, 2010, 12:38:02 PM
All of that will be done with just 3.1 million? I certainly hope so. That is a very good use of money.

this is just for the fountain area....there is another $9+ million set aside to redo the Southbank Riverwalk itself...design on that should start soon

kells904

August 30, 2010, 12:53:26 PM
Having skated Friendship many a time back in high school I would personally like them to continue their presence, however I'm very very bias and understand that "skaters" often give the wrong vibe. Would not suprise me one bit if the put up "skate stops" or some other preventative measure to keep skaters away. Then again maybe this is prime time to throw in a downtown skatepark?! I'm sure the plans are already set in ink but it's too bad this wasn't thought of before.

I'm much more in favor of that, which could potentially become the home of some kind of local annual skate event.  I'd rather that skaters didn't have to recycle some "abandoned" structures to get their fix.  I remember seeing some kids skating up and down Forsyth by the old 618 building, because some of downtown Jax looks like  Manhattan in "I Am Legend".  I wish there was a skate park downtown and I wouldn't dare get on a skateboard.

Debbie Thompson

August 30, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
I thought they used river water for the fountain, not potable, treated city water.

Captain Zissou

August 30, 2010, 02:00:59 PM
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

904Scars

August 30, 2010, 02:10:31 PM
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure about LaVilla area. I personally think it would be cool on or close to the river. Shipyard skatepark?

buckethead

August 30, 2010, 02:10:38 PM
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.
I'd modify that thought a bit. Rather that a traditional skate park, offer various ramps/moguls/jumps/obstacles throughout the north bank. Many already exist. I spent countless hours skating downtown in the eighties. There is much to do, but most places do not welcome the cursed skateboard. (A bit of respect for private property from skateboarders would go a long way to ease that sentiment.)

What I enjoy about DT skating is the changing scenery and the diverse terrain.

Dog Walker

August 30, 2010, 02:16:19 PM
I thought they used river water for the fountain, not potable, treated city water.

The water isn't thrown away after a single use, it goes round and round.  The only new water added is to make up for evaporation.

You do NOT want to breath the mist from river water until they get the algae and bacteria counts MUCH lower than they are now.

Overstreet

August 30, 2010, 02:27:24 PM
I thought they used river water for the fountain, not potable, treated city water.........

The river water is typical southern coffee water. The water in the fountain is clear. That would be the first clue the two are different.

The second is that codes and health department won't let you use untreated water. You could pull it out of the river but you'd have to treat it and filter it. Like a swimming pool the water comes from JEA, is lightly treated and  recirculated.  "Make up water" is added water to take the place of evaporated water. (like others said)

In many respects it is similar to the fountains at the TUPAC and Landing.

heights unknown

August 30, 2010, 02:35:55 PM
It's about time.

"HU"

Captain Zissou

August 30, 2010, 02:44:32 PM
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure about LaVilla area. I personally think it would be cool on or close to the river. Shipyard skatepark?

I'd like a skatepark on the moon, but that probably won't happen.  The city won't use a very valuable peace of land for a skatepark I'm sure, so let's shoot for some of the less developed or desirable areas first. Under the fuller warren would have been great also.  Skate parks will generate foot traffic and be a hub for young and alternative businesses.

wsansewjs

August 30, 2010, 03:04:33 PM
Yep, that water is never going to be anything but brown.  I grew up near the headwaters of the St. Johns and I have been there.  It's swampwater, and will always be.  The decaying plant matter is what colors it brown like that.

Actually, Saint Johns River system is actually an estuary system of different water. We do have saltwater flowing in from the Atlantic on the floor of the river while the fresh water are flowing out. Obviously, the salt water doesn't come WAY deep into the river, but it is pretty darn close since our beloved city is located smack in the delta area of Saint Johns river. There are chemical compositions occurring in the river that is causing it to be brownish.

-Josh Simpson

BridgeTroll

August 30, 2010, 03:20:51 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackwater_river

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A blackwater river is a river with a deep, slow-moving channel that flows through forested swamps and wetlands. As vegetation decays in the water, tannins are leached out, resulting in transparent, acidic water that is darkly stained, resembling tea or coffee. Most major blackwater rivers are in the Amazon River system and the Southern United States. The term "blackwater" here is an agreed-upon technical one in fluvial studies, geology, geography and ecology/biology. Not all dark-colored rivers are true blackwater rivers in the technical sense. Some rivers in temperate regions, which drain or flow through areas of dark black loam, are colored black due to the color of the soil. These types of rivers can be referred to as black mud rivers; there are also black mud estuaries (see link above to rivers officially named Blackwater River.)

Blackwater rivers are much lower in nutrients than whitewater rivers and have ionic concentrations only slightly higher than rainwater.[1][2] The unique water conditions lead to a composition of flora and fauna that differs significantly from that found in whitewater sources. Areas where blackwater rivers and whitewater rivers combine are particularly attractive to a diverse group of organisms.

904Scars

August 30, 2010, 04:22:29 PM
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure about LaVilla area. I personally think it would be cool on or close to the river. Shipyard skatepark?

I'd like a skatepark on the moon, but that probably won't happen.  The city won't use a very valuable peace of land for a skatepark I'm sure, so let's shoot for some of the less developed or desirable areas first. Under the fuller warren would have been great also.  Skate parks will generate foot traffic and be a hub for young and alternative businesses.

I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

duvaldude08

August 30, 2010, 04:53:35 PM
This is good news. Being that my job is directly across the street, Im going to enjoy looking out the window and wacthing the progress. I wish they would do something different with the exterior of the MOSH. It looks soo.......... old and bland

904Scars

August 30, 2010, 04:56:57 PM
I wish they would do something different with the exterior of the MOSH. It looks soo.......... old and bland

I've thought this for some time as well. You think being a science museum it would be a little more "modern", unless of course they are focusing more on the history portion of the museum. Don't get me wrong, still a great place to visit, I still enjoy the occasional pass through.

Coolyfett

August 30, 2010, 06:15:16 PM
I would like a downtown skate park as well, but I'd rather see it on the Northbank.  Since a skateboard itself is a means of conveyance, there is no need for dedicated parking.  Just take a block in La Villa or around the Springfield park system and put one down.  A starter park could be built for cheap and added onto over time.

Hmmm? I'm not sure about LaVilla area. I personally think it would be cool on or close to the river. Shipyard skatepark?

I'd like a skatepark on the moon, but that probably won't happen.  The city won't use a very valuable peace of land for a skatepark I'm sure, so let's shoot for some of the less developed or desirable areas first. Under the fuller warren would have been great also.  Skate parks will generate foot traffic and be a hub for young and alternative businesses.

I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

You gotta keep the skaters in mind. Those kids need a place to thrash around. Sometimes when I was on Southbank Id walk over there and chill watching the bladers & kids on boards do their thing. Im not even a skater fan, but I see their people watching importance.

CS Foltz

August 30, 2010, 06:17:52 PM
Coolyfett..............good observation................I agree! Something for everyone would be nice!

904Scars

August 31, 2010, 07:54:55 AM
Agreed... even though I use to skate you wouldn't catch me out there anymore, I'm far to accident prone and my bones just aren't cut out for that sorta thing anymore. I have however seen the neglect this group gets and they are often times misunderstood and labeled as misfits. Most people (obviously not metrojax) have no clue what a few free skateparks can do for these guys. It keeps them off the street and off private property (making business owners happy) and gives the incapable some entertainment while strolling through the park(s). Anyone know who I'd shoot an email to so I could propose such a thing? The least I can do is try... even if the plans for the Southbank are set in ink maybe there is room elsewhere in the urban core.

acme54321

August 31, 2010, 08:00:26 AM
I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

Under the Fuller Warren would be a great place, maybe down by PS4.  It's already loud, which I think is one of the main reasons people don't like skateparks.  

Back on subject.... we walked down by the fountain yesterday and they are already going at it so hopefully this thing goes off without a hitch.

904Scars

August 31, 2010, 08:05:53 AM
I by no means meant take up the entire shipyard with a skatepark, even being an old bum legged ex-skater I'd rather see it become a park of sorts. I do however agree with taking advantage of the plentiful space under our SEVEN bridges, the Fuller Warren being a great choice. There are so many cities around the country that have developed concrete parks under their overpasses and bridges.

Under the Fuller Warren would be a great place, maybe down by PS4.  It's already loud, which I think is one of the main reasons people don't like skateparks.  Boards flying around, grinding, etc makes a lot of racket.  Plus it's close to five points.

By School#4 would be a pretty good spot. They already have the basketball courts right there and they could connect it with the rest of the park... plus now that they are done with that portion of I-10/I-95 (for the most part) I'm sure it would be a little easier to build up. Is that space city owned? PLUS... that is super close to my main hangout and I have a few close friends that live of Stockton who can still handle themselves on a board.

urbaknight

August 31, 2010, 03:25:08 PM
904Scars, I'd love to see a skate park downtown. And there are plenty of places that it could potentially be built.

Coolyfett

August 31, 2010, 06:25:01 PM
Whats the deal with the fountain? how high is it going to shoot?

duvaldude08

August 31, 2010, 08:56:32 PM
a skate park is a great idea. Right in that same area, under the main street bridge overpass, skateboarder's actually hangout. Ive sat there and wacthed them bust thier ass. They hang out up the street from there anyways, might as well make a spot for them. Its time for Jacksonville to think outside of the box.

newzgrrl

August 31, 2010, 09:31:25 PM
Too bad I have another commitment that I set up just before finding out about the event. My Sunday bike ride from end to end of the Southbank riverwalk was thwarted by all the orange fencing. Looking forward to comments and photos here!

Cliffs_Daughter

September 01, 2010, 12:13:02 PM
I made it out there this morning - nice little crowd, mostly consisting of suits and reporters, but there a handful of us representing "general citizenry". I have pictures, but need to sort them first.

That fountain looks weird being a dry concrete circle. At least we know the pumps will be replaced and it'll look like it used to.

Bob_Johnson

September 01, 2010, 03:56:53 PM
Pictures from the Ground breaking as well as ongoing construction pictures can be found here.
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/album01
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/2010

-Bob

Cliffs_Daughter

September 01, 2010, 04:05:59 PM
Bob, I think I saw you there. Jag shirt?

VERY nice pics on the site, btw.  ;D

ZacharyMease

September 20, 2010, 10:19:28 PM
Does anyone know why the roof of the pump house is constantly gated shut, and soon to be blocked off by plants? There's a very nice mosaic bench built into the top of the structure, offering a very nice view of downtown. It's a shame nobody can legally enjoy it.

Dog Walker

September 21, 2010, 09:35:54 AM
Does anyone know why the roof of the pump house is constantly gated shut, and soon to be blocked off by plants? There's a very nice mosaic bench built into the top of the structure, offering a very nice view of downtown. It's a shame nobody can legally enjoy it.

Skateboarders?

fieldafm

September 21, 2010, 09:54:03 AM
Does anyone know why the roof of the pump house is constantly gated shut, and soon to be blocked off by plants? There's a very nice mosaic bench built into the top of the structure, offering a very nice view of downtown. It's a shame nobody can legally enjoy it.

Its to discourage homeless people from sleeping up there.

Jaxson

September 21, 2010, 10:23:34 AM
Does anyone know why the roof of the pump house is constantly gated shut, and soon to be blocked off by plants? There's a very nice mosaic bench built into the top of the structure, offering a very nice view of downtown. It's a shame nobody can legally enjoy it.

Its to discourage homeless people from sleeping up there.

It is a pity that the city's worries about homeless people take priority over creating a more enjoyable urban center. 

Keith-N-Jax

September 21, 2010, 10:30:31 AM
Hard to enjoy yourself with bums asking for money.

fieldafm

September 21, 2010, 10:36:56 AM
Hard to enjoy yourself with bums asking for money.

I have to beg people to go downtown on bike rides with me b/c they fear the homeless situation.  Personally, I believe their fears are unfounded... but its a stigma that creates a real problem.

Jaxson

September 21, 2010, 10:41:39 AM
Hard to enjoy yourself with bums asking for money.

Why don't we shut down the central business district and just let the homeless take over?  ; )

acme54321

September 21, 2010, 10:41:54 AM
I don't fear homeless but it is really annoying getting ask for money multiple times on trips DT.  Doesn't personally stop me though.

Keith-N-Jax

September 21, 2010, 11:02:50 AM
But for some people it is a problem, it doesnt bother me though. I've never seen homeless at FF though.

duvaldude08

September 21, 2010, 11:07:58 AM
But for some people it is a problem, it doesnt bother me though. I've never seen homeless at FF though.

I have not either. Ive visited the fountain at all times of night and day and never seen any homeless. Most of the home less hang out on Main street at the shell station and outside the garage across the street.

Jaxson

September 21, 2010, 11:11:18 AM
I don't fear homeless but it is really annoying getting ask for money multiple times on trips DT.  Doesn't personally stop me though.

I am also annoyed by people who stand at major intersections and beg for money.  I notice that this is becoming more common on Beach Boulevard at 9A.  And, speaking of asking for money, it irks me that groups roam major intersections and guilt drivers into donating to their various causes.

Bativac

September 27, 2010, 09:48:34 AM
But for some people it is a problem, it doesnt bother me though. I've never seen homeless at FF though.

I have not either. Ive visited the fountain at all times of night and day and never seen any homeless. Most of the home less hang out on Main street at the shell station and outside the garage across the street.

My wife and I walk the Riverwalk a couple times a week and whenever we amble over to the fountain area (usually around 9:30 or so) we are met with at least one homeless person. Maybe we look like easy marks? Usually there are a couple other people asleep around that area.

It doesn't bother us but they are definitely out there. Although I didn't see anyone out there late last week, maybe because of all the construction.

Debbie Thompson

September 27, 2010, 01:23:20 PM
Not that it's anything new....I was panhandled there in the late 1960's.  And the pump house ramp was open then...panhandlers and all. :-)

At least, thank goodness, preservationists were heard, and the cown jewel of Jacksonville Friendship Fountain will be restored.  It won't be turned into an interactive water feature thing-a-ma-jig like was first planned.

JeffreyS

September 27, 2010, 01:35:55 PM
they were breaking up the concrete with the heavy equipment at lunchtime.

Ocklawaha

September 27, 2010, 01:50:11 PM
But for some people it is a problem, it doesnt bother me though. I've never seen homeless at FF though.

Never ceases to amaze me that some folks (and I don't mean Keith-in-Jax) are surprised that the "Homeless" enjoy things like Parks, benches, fountains, etc...  Just like all the rest of us.

By what rights do we deport them? Did you know that in Orlando, more then a handful of people-family-friends-whatever will be arrested and all of their toys taken if they "congregate in a city park?" Some people may remember Gwyn Stuarts harrowing tale of police abuse in Mickey Town? You should hear the stories of the abuse of not just the homeless but the missions and agencies trying to help them too. I'm proud that most Jaxson's treat the Homeless like fellow citizens, because you don't have to go very far to be treated like rats.

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ACLU wins on Two Counts, Claims Victory

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: media@aclufl.org

ORLANDO, Fla. – The American Civil Liberties Union of Florida won an overwhelming victory today in First Vagabonds Church of God vs. City of Orlando, the highly publicized "homeless feeding" case in Orlando. The 14-page opinion issued by Federal Judge Gregory A. Presnell hinged on the plaintiffs' right to Free Exercise of Religion and Freedom of Speech.

The lawsuit was filed by the ACLU on October 12, 2006 on behalf of the First Vagabonds Church of God (FVCG), Orlando Food Not Bombs (OFNB) and several individuals. The lawsuit alleged that the City of Orlando's ordinance on Large Group Feeding violated religious groups' constitutional rights to free speech, free assembly, free association and freedom of religion. The City's ordinance required groups and individuals to apply for a permit, only two of which are allowed per year, in order to share food with more than twenty-five people in downtown public parks. Violations were punishable by sixty days in jail and a $500 fine.

"After a two-year battle in court, we are thrilled that the court is vindicating the rights of the First Vagabonds Church of God and Orlando Food Not Bombs, and the homeless persons they serve," said ACLU senior attorney Glenn Katon, who also heads up the ACLU of Florida's Nancy and Martin Engels Religious Freedom Project. "Freedom of religion and freedom of speech are the cornerstones of the First Amendment and this ordinance flew in the face of the most basic constitutional rights of people using the parks to share food with the homeless. Now, thanks to a lot of hard work by many, they can."

The opinion states: "The Court finds that there is no rational basis for this Ordinance. None of the legitimate government interests proffered by the City are served by this Ordinance. Furthermore…the Ordinance does much more than incidentally burden Nichols' congregation…therefore, the Court finds that the application of this Ordinance violates the First Amendment rights of Nichols and FVCG."

"If the spirit of God draws number twenty-six to me, how can I tell God, ' no'," Pastor Brian Nichols of the FVCG said earlier this year. "How can I choose between God's will and the City of Orlando's ordinance?"

The judge's opinion went on to say: "Rather than address the problem of homelessness in these downtown neighborhoods directly, the City has instead decided to limit the expressive activity which attracts the homeless to these neighborhoods. While the Ordinance may very well accomplish the goal of diminishing the number of homeless in the Thornton Park and Lake Eola neighborhoods, the restriction clearly prevents OFNB from communicating its Constitutionally protected speech at a meaningful location which, from time immemorial, has been the traditional public forum for free speech. Although some incidental restrictions on First Amendment freedoms must be tolerated, the Court concludes that the restriction here goes too far."

"This ruling sends a loud and clear signal to the Orlando community – the ACLU is here to stay, and we will be protecting the Constitution in Central Florida," said Dr. Joyce Hamilton Henry, ACLU of Florida Central Region Director. "We expanded into this part of the state because there are so many real issues that need our attention – and we are already seeing the benefits to our presence here."

The FVCG and OFNB are Orlando-based organizations that assemble weekly to share food in public parks and to express their religious and political beliefs, respectively. The FVCG is a homeless church without a building for worship. Pastor Nichols' religion requires him to share food and help provide life sustaining services with his congregation.

"This has been an emotional legal battle – and we are pleased that in this case the rights of the downtrodden are being vindicated," said Jackie Dowd, ACLU cooperating attorney. "This was a mean-spirited ordinance. Hopefully it sends a signal to the City of Orlando that we mean business and we won't tolerate unconstitutional policy in Orlando."

SOURCE:
http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice_prisoners-rights_drug-law-reform_immigrants-rights/federal-judge-strikes-down-orlando


Now back to the fountain, since the homeless scare some people and might sleep in appropriate places, why not knock the walls off of the pump house from the surface of the twisting walkway to a circle around the top, then simply replace the same with a "See Through" hand railing, hence we could reopen the overlook.


OCKLAWAHA

simms3

September 27, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
Ock, come live up here in downtown Atlanta for a while and tell me whether you hold the same view of the homeless.  Don't get me wrong, they are people and I volunteer at a "Samaritan House" that teaches them comp skills, helps them build a resume and find jobs, and helps them wash clothes, etc. (and it's only open during daytime hours), but I refuse to give any homeless ON THE STREET money or attention.  There are too many places for them to go for help, they CHOOSE to be beggars many times and they often DO harass innocent tax paying charity giving volunteering citizens who deserve a thanks instead of a 'gimme' something.

buckethead

September 27, 2010, 07:16:40 PM
There is a distinct difference between a predator and a victim of hard times. That difference is not always discernable upon initial inspection.

I find it best to err on the side of compassion. This doesn't mean give handouts to each and every passing "vagrant". It does mean that I should view each person I meet as my equal/brother/sister and serve my "family" to the best of my ability at a given moment. Some days I have more to offer than others, but a kind glance or even a kind word is far better than to ignore a person.

coredumped

October 24, 2010, 11:39:46 PM
Has anyone seen the teaser for first coast news "investigation" coming up this Thursday? It doesn't say exactly what it's about, but they're filming what looks like water coming from a fountain and talking about tax payer money/waste. If I had to guess I would think it's about the fountain at friendship. Again, they didn't say, it might be the sprinkler system at JSO, who knows.

Ocklawaha

October 25, 2010, 12:01:12 AM
Ock, come live up here in downtown Atlanta for a while and tell me whether you hold the same view of the homeless.  Don't get me wrong, they are people and I volunteer at a "Samaritan House" that teaches them comp skills, helps them build a resume and find jobs, and helps them wash clothes, etc. (and it's only open during daytime hours), but I refuse to give any homeless ON THE STREET money or attention.  There are too many places for them to go for help, they CHOOSE to be beggars many times and they often DO harass innocent tax paying charity giving volunteering citizens who deserve a thanks instead of a 'gimme' something.

Exactly BUCKETHEAD, I don't need to visit Atlanta anyway, as a free spirit, one time long haired, noble fared, leaping gnome, I'll call it been there ... done that!

Quote
AL LA:
"Never been to Spain ATLANTA

Well I never been to SpainATLANTA
But I kinda like the music
Say the ladies are insane there
And they sure know how to use it
The don't abuse it
Never gonna lose it
I can't refuse it

Well I never been to England
But I kinda like the Beatles
Well, I headed for Las Vegas
Only made it out to Needles
Can you feel it
It must be real it
Feels so good
Oh, feels so good

Well I never been to heaven
But I been to Oklahoma"

OCKLAWAHA

Coolyfett

October 25, 2010, 08:23:39 AM
So how is the repairs to this landmark coming along??

thelakelander

October 25, 2010, 08:32:05 AM
They're moving right along.  We'll have a few images of this renovation and more in the October Construction Update, which should hit the front page tomorrow.

CS Foltz

October 29, 2010, 05:50:36 PM
This is costing us what? I had heard $3.5 Million Dollars or do I have this confused with another Fountain?

cline

October 29, 2010, 06:18:39 PM
This is costing us what? I had heard $3.5 Million Dollars or do I have this confused with another Fountain?

I believe it is 3.2MM.

CS Foltz

October 29, 2010, 07:53:10 PM
Thanks for the information cline!

tufsu1

October 29, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
This is costing us what? I had heard $3.5 Million Dollars or do I have this confused with another Fountain?

I believe it is 3.2MM.

$3.2 mega-million?
$3.2 multi-million?

CS Foltz

October 29, 2010, 08:42:14 PM
tufsu.........reading between the lines, I would guess $3.2 Million Dollars! I just love the way this administration continues to write checks that the taxpayer will have to cash! Just leaves me speechless........allmost!

JeffreyS

October 29, 2010, 08:50:23 PM
Lets not start bagging on typos.

tufsu1

October 29, 2010, 09:46:02 PM
Lets not start bagging on typos.

just playing with cline...I'm pretty sure he can handle it :)

Ocklawaha

October 29, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
Hey I think I broke the code, Bosnia has a currency called the MARKA, and then there is the  Mozambican METICAL.

Maybe it's not in US Dollars? Might also be a clue as to where to find Peyton AFTER his reign ends...


OCKLAWAHA

JeffreyS

October 29, 2010, 10:34:53 PM
No I am just worried that my typing may become an embarrassment.

Coolyfett

October 30, 2010, 08:41:30 AM
Ock, come live up here in downtown Atlanta for a while and tell me whether you hold the same view of the homeless.  Don't get me wrong, they are people and I volunteer at a "Samaritan House" that teaches them comp skills, helps them build a resume and find jobs, and helps them wash clothes, etc. (and it's only open during daytime hours), but I refuse to give any homeless ON THE STREET money or attention.  There are too many places for them to go for help, they CHOOSE to be beggars many times and they often DO harass innocent tax paying charity giving volunteering citizens who deserve a thanks instead of a 'gimme' something.

Seattle homeless are way more aggressive than the Atlanta homeless. IMO the bums know who to approach, who to harrass & who to leave alone. Its kinda like a sales job. They sell guilt, either you are buying are not. Ive spent enough time in Woodruff Park & Hemming Plaza to know my nickles & dimes wont help them, THEY actually have places to go for food, shelter & help. Plus when in the city I only keep my debit card.

stephendare

October 30, 2010, 08:45:04 AM
Ock, come live up here in downtown Atlanta for a while and tell me whether you hold the same view of the homeless.  Don't get me wrong, they are people and I volunteer at a "Samaritan House" that teaches them comp skills, helps them build a resume and find jobs, and helps them wash clothes, etc. (and it's only open during daytime hours), but I refuse to give any homeless ON THE STREET money or attention.  There are too many places for them to go for help, they CHOOSE to be beggars many times and they often DO harass innocent tax paying charity giving volunteering citizens who deserve a thanks instead of a 'gimme' something.

Seattle homeless are way more aggressive than the Atlanta homeless. IMO the bums know who to approach, who to harrass & who to leave alone. Its kinda like a sales job. They sell guilt, either you are buying are not. Ive spent enough time in Woodruff Park & Hemming Plaza to know my nickles & dimes wont help them, THEY actually have places to go for food, shelter & help. Plus when in the city I only keep my debit card.

There is definitely a difference between the panhandlers and the homeless.  Half of the people panhandling are not homeless and are just bums.  Long long experience with this issue has taught me that.

We are doing the panhandlers doo wop for In the Pits next week.

Ocklawaha

October 30, 2010, 10:04:02 AM
Seattle homeless are way more aggressive than the Atlanta homeless. IMO the bums know who to approach, who to harrass & who to leave alone. Its kinda like a sales job. They sell guilt, either you are buying are not. Ive spent enough time in Woodruff Park & Hemming Plaza to know my nickles & dimes wont help them, THEY actually have places to go for food, shelter & help. Plus when in the city I only keep my debit card.

Could be because the bum's in Seattle like those in the Rose City of Portland have such a limited time to get r done before the next rain. The last year I was in Portland, 2,132 people fell off their bicycles and drowned!


OCKLAWAHA

dougskiles

January 04, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
Updated plan for the fountain & park area that I just received from COJ Public Works:





It will be nice to have it operational again.

spuwho

January 04, 2011, 05:32:51 PM
This looks good. Are they going to retain the Kings Road/Cowford Historical marker?

duvaldude08

January 04, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
I cant wait to see the finish project. I look out the window at work everyday and hope I see it complete. Does anybody know what they plan on doing with treaty oak park? Are there any renderings floating around? The only thing I have seen them do so far its add paved walkways through the park.  I wonder how Metrojacksonville missed that project.

Ocklawaha

January 04, 2011, 08:08:13 PM
If you'll enter the words "Treaty Oak Park" into our search window, you'll get a whole page of articles we have done on this park, including the improvements.

Here's the feature story link: http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2008-aug-urban-parks-treaty-oak-park



OCKLAWAHA

Keith-N-Jax

January 04, 2011, 09:45:54 PM
Looks pretty good.

acme54321

May 11, 2011, 12:41:07 PM
http://jacksonville.com/news/2011-05-11/story/friendship-fountains-new-pumps-get-work-out


Friendship Fountain's new pumps get a work out


People out for their morning walk along the St. Johns river downtown were treated to preview of what's to come. Workers at Friendship Fountain Park were testing the water jets, including the inside jets that haven't worked for several years.

PANORAMIC IMAGE OF PARK CONSTRUCTION FROM JAXFOUNTAIN.COM

The $3.1 million Friendship Fountain renovation project started in August.  New pumps, pipes and electrical systems are being installed for the 46-year-old fountain.

In addition to renovating the fountain, a grassy area is being added along with seating, curving sidewalks and accent lighting.

The project is scheduled to be completed next month.



Dapperdan

May 11, 2011, 01:32:24 PM
Yep, the fountain is active right now. Even that famous inner ring is working. Can't wait to see the lighting.

Cliffs_Daughter

May 11, 2011, 01:33:37 PM
Yep, the fountain is active right now. Even that famous inner ring is working. Can't wait to see the lighting.
Me Too!!!

blizz01

May 11, 2011, 01:41:40 PM
The highest in the world again?  In the States?  In Florida?  In North Florida?

Dapperdan

May 11, 2011, 01:44:54 PM
Theya re just testing it right now. I am not sure if they plan on raising itto full height or not.

Dog Walker

May 11, 2011, 02:19:43 PM
There used to be a wind gauge on the pump house that would limit the height of the fountain to prevent water from blowing all over the place.  When the wind was calm that sucker would be really up there.

Looking forward to seeing it working again as I was there when it opened.

BridgeTroll

May 12, 2011, 07:32:45 AM
No pix? ???

fsujax

May 12, 2011, 08:18:09 AM
would loved to have seen it!

acme54321

May 12, 2011, 08:21:02 AM
I sent an email to jaxfountain.org about the height issue.  The said they were unsure if it would be as high as it used to.  I really hope it does because that seemed to be the whole point of the thing and for 3Mil you would think it doable.

blizz01

May 12, 2011, 09:26:52 AM
Quote
and for 3Mil you would think it's doable

Fot that it should rival the dancing waters @ the Bellagio in Vegas........

BridgeTroll

May 12, 2011, 09:31:40 AM
Quote
and for 3Mil you would think it's doable

Fot that it should rival the dancing waters @ the Bellagio in Vegas........

That... and turn River City Brewing into a casino...

fsujax

May 12, 2011, 09:36:31 AM
^^now that would be cool!

copperfiend

May 12, 2011, 10:32:51 AM
Quote
and for 3Mil you would think it's doable

Fot that it should rival the dancing waters @ the Bellagio in Vegas........

The Bellagio fountains cost 40 million dollars.

http://www.vegas.com/attractions/on_the_strip/bellagiofountains.html

BridgeTroll

May 12, 2011, 10:36:54 AM
Quote
and for 3Mil you would think it's doable

Fot that it should rival the dancing waters @ the Bellagio in Vegas........

The Bellagio fountains cost 40 million dollars.

http://www.vegas.com/attractions/on_the_strip/bellagiofountains.html

And RCB will never be the Bellagio...

blizz01

May 12, 2011, 10:40:49 AM
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The Bellagio fountains cost 40 million dollars.

Of course they did - hyperbole.  But give me 3 million & my back yard & I'll build a pretty sweet water feature too.   ;)

Dapperdan

May 12, 2011, 11:11:23 AM
But also remember, the 3 million was just to update the fountain, everything else was already in place and paid for. This fountain could not be built for 3 million if they had just started with a patch of dirt. The infrastructure was already there.

Dog Walker

May 12, 2011, 11:21:52 AM
Until the fountain quit and was not repaired, every picture of Jacksonville in a national publication or on television featured that fountain at night either as foreground or in the distance.  It was iconic and widely recognized.  We missed a major opportunity for national exposure by not having it fixed by the Super Bowl.

It's going to be great to have it working again.

urbaknight

May 12, 2011, 11:36:53 AM
I can't wait to see it!

Debbie Thompson

May 12, 2011, 12:12:40 PM
Man, that thing used to be amazing when the center fountain rose to full height!  I hope, hope, hope they'll restore that.

duvaldude08

May 12, 2011, 12:36:09 PM
Until the fountain quit and was not repaired, every picture of Jacksonville in a national publication or on television featured that fountain at night either as foreground or in the distance.  It was iconic and widely recognized.  We missed a major opportunity for national exposure by not having it fixed by the Super Bowl.

It's going to be great to have it working again.

Well have have three nationally televised games this season. So it will get some much needed exspoure

Dapperdan

May 12, 2011, 12:42:23 PM
Until the fountain quit and was not repaired, every picture of Jacksonville in a national publication or on television featured that fountain at night either as foreground or in the distance.  It was iconic and widely recognized.  We missed a major opportunity for national exposure by not having it fixed by the Super Bowl.

It's going to be great to have it working again.

I beleive it was working for the Superbowl.

fsujax

May 12, 2011, 01:24:32 PM
it was not just full throttle, I think some of the jets were broken.

Bob_Johnson

May 12, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
Sorry for not posting sooner, things just happen...

Bob, I think I saw you there. Jag shirt?

VERY nice pics on the site, btw.  ;D

That would have been me yep ;)  and thanks

Does anyone know why the roof of the pump house is constantly gated shut, and soon to be blocked off by plants? There's a very nice mosaic bench built into the top of the structure, offering a very nice view of downtown. It's a shame nobody can legally enjoy it.

Skateboarders?

My understanding is primarily skateboarders as well as security for other reasons.  Speaking of skateboarders apparently the rim of the Fountain itself was used occasionally for skateboarding, well that won't be possible any longer with the new Guardrails...


This looks good. Are they going to retain the Kings Road/Cowford Historical marker?

As far as i know yes

There used to be a wind gauge on the pump house that would limit the height of the fountain to prevent water from blowing all over the place.  When the wind was calm that sucker would be really up there.

Looking forward to seeing it working again as I was there when it opened.

That is true and there will again be a wind gauge (Anemometer) on the pump house roof for that purpose.  Also as I mentioned to acme54321 when they wrote me, it seems to me that at some point in the past the overall max height allowed for the center ring had been reduced due to water spray issues even in the calmest winds but i will inquire when i get back down to the site next week.

it was not just full throttle, I think some of the jets were broken.

You were correct it is not full throttle however the problem is not any of the jets which all appear to be working fine but with the Engineers determining that everything is OK and some old valves that were not part of the refurb and there is some concern about those operating properly...

No pix? ???



More here: http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/May112011

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

BridgeTroll

May 12, 2011, 02:00:31 PM
Thank you Bob!

TheProfessor

May 12, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
Glad the fountain is operational now!  Now if only they choreographed the jets to music?

Bob_Johnson

May 12, 2011, 02:33:47 PM
Glad the fountain is operational now!  Now if only they choreographed the jets to music?

They are working on that as well.

Look at this picture and see the new lighting on the towers along with the new speakers that were just installed.



-Bob
JaxFountain.com

blizz01

May 12, 2011, 02:54:00 PM
Now THAT'S cool.

JeffreyS

May 12, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
Seriously Thanks for the pics Bob.  I can't wait to be on the boat 4th of July Fireworks fountain all lit up playing music with the water putting on a show. Congrats to all involved.

Cliffs_Daughter

May 12, 2011, 04:48:35 PM
Bob, I actually saw you there the day of the groundbreaking, I think.

A BIG Thank you for that picture today! I'm just so happy to see her running again!

Timkin

May 12, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
Bravo to the crew that refurbished the Fountain!  It looks awesome !!!

acme54321

May 12, 2011, 06:21:58 PM
Thanks for posting Bob!

duvaldude08

May 12, 2011, 11:36:39 PM
I can not WAIT to see this! I will be spending alot of time at Friendship fountain

Dog Walker

May 13, 2011, 10:05:04 AM
The night of the day John Lennon was murdered there was a spontaneous gathering of several hundred people holding candles and singing his songs at the fountain.  We were there.  It was incredibly moving.

It is a special place and just fantastic that it is receiving an long overdue facelift and restoration.

Bob_Johnson

May 13, 2011, 10:46:19 AM
I just got off the phone with Larry Summerville, the AC General Superintendent, and he let me know that they turned the pumps and valves to Full this morning during testing and the Center ring was about 100 Feet in height by his estimate.

However during the test he said it soaked the surrounding area all the way to the river and up to the entrance from the water spray, so what the full height allowed will be is still yet to be determined.

I am hoping that I will be able to get down to the Fountain during the next full test, later today or early next week and get some shots of all the rings at full power.

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Dapperdan

May 13, 2011, 12:34:01 PM
When it first opened, did they have problems with it spraying outside of its holding area when it was at 100 or 120 feet? I am curious how it was done then and now it can't be done.

wsansewjs

May 13, 2011, 12:52:12 PM
The night of the day John Lennon was murdered there was a spontaneous gathering of several hundred people holding candles and singing his songs at the fountain.  We were there.  It was incredibly moving.

It is a special place and just fantastic that it is receiving an long overdue facelift and restoration.

Since my generation is much younger than yours, I perceived the Friendship Fountain as the place for peace for Jacksonville, connecting the past to the future.

And for the visual cue, thanks to the lovely local designer, Karen Kurycki, from her office in Riverplace Tower, she captured this photo of the Fountain going full blast.



-Josh

duvaldude08

May 13, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
The night of the day John Lennon was murdered there was a spontaneous gathering of several hundred people holding candles and singing his songs at the fountain.  We were there.  It was incredibly moving.

It is a special place and just fantastic that it is receiving an long overdue facelift and restoration.

Since my generation is much younger than yours, I perceived the Friendship Fountain as the place for peace for Jacksonville, connecting the past to the future.

And for the visual cue, thanks to the lovely local designer, Karen Kurycki, from her office in Riverplace Tower, she captured this photo of the Foundation going full blast.



-Josh

That is a great view! Im in the Prudential Building and I just looked out the window myself to see what was going on. When did she take that? I looking to see if there was any grass yet, and there isnt. I assume that is the very last thing they will do.

thelakelander

May 13, 2011, 01:01:37 PM
Nice!

Jason

May 13, 2011, 01:08:36 PM
Looking great!!  Still eager to see that center jet

acme54321

May 13, 2011, 01:30:13 PM
Looking great!!  Still eager to see that center jet

Look a few posts up...

Jason

May 13, 2011, 01:33:17 PM
It's not blasting up 100' feet yet though.  Or is it?

fsujax

May 13, 2011, 01:34:06 PM
is it going to be restored to 100ft?

acme54321

May 13, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
It's not blasting up 100' feet yet though.  Or is it?

Can't say for sure but on the last page Bob said they were estimating 100ft this morning.

If you look at the shipping container and the truck below the fountain you can tell it's pretty darn high.

Bob_Johnson

May 13, 2011, 02:48:54 PM

Since my generation is much younger than yours, I perceived the Friendship Fountain as the place for peace for Jacksonville, connecting the past to the future.

And for the visual cue, thanks to the lovely local designer, Karen Kurycki, from her office in Riverplace Tower, she captured this photo of the Fountain going full blast.



-Josh

That is just awesome and i would certainly welcome pictures like that and any others that anyone would care to contribute to the JaxFountain Picture Gallery..

http://www.jaxfountain.com/upload.shtm

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

duvaldude08

May 13, 2011, 02:54:05 PM

Since my generation is much younger than yours, I perceived the Friendship Fountain as the place for peace for Jacksonville, connecting the past to the future.

And for the visual cue, thanks to the lovely local designer, Karen Kurycki, from her office in Riverplace Tower, she captured this photo of the Fountain going full blast.



-Josh

That is just awesome and i would certainly welcome pictures like that and any others that anyone would care to contribute to the JaxFountain Picture Gallery..

http://www.jaxfountain.com/upload.shtm

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Bob Wheres the grass man??? LOL  ;D

Bob_Johnson

May 13, 2011, 02:58:19 PM

Bob Wheres the grass man??? LOL  ;D

Actually the Landscapers are supposed to be working tomorrow on irrigation (I believe) preparing to get the Park ready for the green stuff, which I am just as impatient to see as you are :)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

duvaldude08

May 13, 2011, 03:53:14 PM

Bob Wheres the grass man??? LOL  ;D

Actually the Landscapers are supposed to be working tomorrow on irrigation (I believe) preparing to get the Park ready for the green stuff, which I am just as impatient to see as you are :)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Thanks Bob! I am obessed with landscaping so I am dying to the the green stuff. lol

fsujax

May 13, 2011, 04:03:13 PM
without the irrigation in place, that green stuff would be brown in two days right now!

danno

May 13, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
I  am surprised the city didn't cut corners by hoping the wind blown spray would take care of the grass.

Jason

May 16, 2011, 11:23:47 AM
It's not blasting up 100' feet yet though.  Or is it?

Can't say for sure but on the last page Bob said they were estimating 100ft this morning.

If you look at the shipping container and the truck below the fountain you can tell it's pretty darn high.

Good catch.  It looks like you're right.  I just need to get down there and see it for myself!

Bob_Johnson

May 16, 2011, 12:26:45 PM
I got a call from Larry Summerville this morning asking if I wanted to run down real quick and they would power up the Fountain to Full blast...

Here you go:


That is Eric Beebe in the picture who worked on the last Refurb of the Fountain as well and is probably right around 6 foot tall for a comparison.  This was taken from the Roof of the Pump house.

More pictures here:
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/May162011

They had to quickly bring it down to 2/3 - 1/2 power due to the water spray which soaked the entire west side of the park from the winds.  If you look at the pictures in the album you can see how the water is being pushed to the right in most pictures and the Fountain going from Full to 1/2.

Larry also said they are hoping to get the trees set this week and then the green stuff can start being laid :)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Debbie Thompson

May 16, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
As I recall, and it's been awhile...back in the day you avoided the downwind side of the fountain when the center jet went up so you wouldn't get wet.  How hard is that?

These pictures are great, but I don't think that's as high as the center used to go.  I could be wrong.

Bob_Johnson

May 16, 2011, 12:36:57 PM
This looks good. Are they going to retain the Kings Road/Cowford Historical marker?

Yep it is there untouched in it's original location...



-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Timkin

May 16, 2011, 01:11:28 PM
It looks awesome !!! :)

Cliffs_Daughter

May 16, 2011, 01:16:36 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D   SQUEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Jason

May 16, 2011, 04:31:46 PM
^ DITTO THAT!

Thanks for the update Bob!

Bob_Johnson

May 20, 2011, 02:06:32 PM
Ok starting to see some of the landscaping being put into place.

I am not sure what these are called but they have been planted around the Palm trees and in two very prominent spaces...





Trees have been planted along the Terraced west side of the park...



Holly Trees have been planted around the Pump house.



Upcoming next week, additional palm trees are being planted and then the expectation is sod will start being laid late in the week...

Also if you view the all the pictures I took today you will see the new lamp posts being placed along the Riverwalk, as well as light stands around the planted areas and walkways...

Starting to take shape :)



-Bob
JaxFountain.com

urbaknight

May 20, 2011, 02:10:10 PM
Impressive!

fsujax

May 20, 2011, 02:12:10 PM
I believe it is cord grass. Native to NE Florida. Very heat, cold and drought tolerant. Low maintenance.

CG7

May 20, 2011, 03:03:56 PM
The best 3 mil the city has spent in a long time!!!!!

Captain Zissou

May 20, 2011, 03:05:21 PM
Awesome photos.  Was that last one taken with a fish eye lens?

duvaldude08

May 20, 2011, 03:19:56 PM
Bob,

I have a question. Once everything is complete, who will be responsiable for the up keep of the landscaping?

copperfiend

May 20, 2011, 03:27:44 PM
A definite improvement. Like it.

Bob_Johnson

May 20, 2011, 03:45:13 PM
Thanks fsujax for the identification of the Cord Grass...

Awesome photos.  Was that last one taken with a fish eye lens?

The panoramic picture was taken with a standard lens.  The last two - three weeks pictures were taken with my new Fujifilm Finepix S2950 which has a panoramic setting and you can take two or three pictures and the camera software stiches them together.

My Dell Streak 5 can take 360 degree panoramic images using a App called Photaf but in bright sunlight it is difficult to use and I didn't try to use it the last two weeks...


Bob,

I have a question. Once everything is complete, who will be responsiable for the up keep of the landscaping?

Good question as at one time the Fountain and Park was handled completely by the Parks Department however that department no longer exists and I would assume Overall responsibility would fall to Recreation and Community Services but maintaining may be under Public Works?


-Bob

Cliffs_Daughter

May 20, 2011, 04:02:00 PM
Bob, I think you are correct - it would be Public Works.

Timkin

May 20, 2011, 04:03:54 PM
I have to say I agree.... money very well-spent.  It looks beautiful !

Bob_Johnson

May 20, 2011, 04:11:29 PM
Bob, I think you are correct - it would be Public Works.

However IMHO there lies part of the problem with our Parks in Jacksonville.  A single entity to be Overall responsible for the parks, including managing and maintaining was a much better method.

Assigning the Responsibility for Managing the Parks to one agency and then requiring another to maintain just is asking for trouble... 

If I recall correctly the Parks department used to be Parks and Public Works and tasked with managing Parks as well as maintaining parks and right of ways and seems to me to be a much better fit then placing the Parks management under an Agency that cannot maintain what they manage?  just an opinion...

-Bob

duvaldude08

May 20, 2011, 04:21:51 PM
Bob, I think you are correct - it would be Public Works.

However IMHO there lies part of the problem with our Parks in Jacksonville.  A single entity to be Overall responsible for the parks, including managing and maintaining was a much better method.

Assigning the Responsibility for Managing the Parks to one agency and then requiring another to maintain just is asking for trouble... 

If I recall correctly the Parks department used to be Parks and Public Works and tasked with managing Parks as well as maintaining parks and right of ways and seems to me to be a much better fit then placing the Parks management under an Agency that cannot maintain what they manage?  just an opinion...

-Bob

I agree. Sounds like a great topic for the new mayor :)

Dog Walker

May 21, 2011, 01:15:59 PM
The Recreation folks got mixed up in it which confused the issue.  Used to be in Gainesville (might still be) that the Parks Dept. controls all the parks and everything that went on in them.  Recreation had to request and provide budget for any and all activities that they did in the city parks.  Recreation Dept sports fields were NOT part of the Parks Dept.

Sounds like a more sensible arrangement than we have.

brainstormer

May 21, 2011, 01:33:27 PM
The whole thing looks tasteful and well done.  I can't wait to see it at night.

peestandingup

May 21, 2011, 02:38:58 PM
They HAVE to work on easy connectivity to both sides of the riverwalk or no one's gonna notice this fountain. The closest Skyway station isn't really close, and the Main street bridge walkway isn't very apparent to most people hanging around the Landing either. I have a friend visiting me from out of town who commented on this very thing while in that area. I noticed it too when I first started. It's a problem.

acme54321

May 21, 2011, 03:12:34 PM
They had the fountain on last night with the lights on.  It looked really cool.  Noticed t when walking back DT from the beer festival.

second_pancake

May 21, 2011, 04:25:46 PM
I'm glad to see someone in charge is paying attention to the details like the anti-homeless benches (curved with arms in the middle).  Nice job.

What are the last pictures of...the light-looking things in the cement walkway?

Tacachale

May 21, 2011, 06:26:23 PM
I saw this coming home to San Marco last night. Very very cool looking.

Bob_Johnson

May 21, 2011, 08:40:28 PM

What are the last pictures of...the light-looking things in the cement walkway?

There are, what I call, light stanchions along the concrete walkways all around the Fountain, I would expect they will add a great deal to the ambiance at night...

This picture has one right in the forefront...


-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Dapperdan

May 22, 2011, 01:09:05 AM
They HAVE to work on easy connectivity to both sides of the riverwalk or no one's gonna notice this fountain. The closest Skyway station isn't really close, and the Main street bridge walkway isn't very apparent to most people hanging around the Landing either. I have a friend visiting me from out of town who commented on this very thing while in that area. I noticed it too when I first started. It's a problem.

I am not sure I understand you here. The San Marco skyway station is about two blocks away. You don't feel this is close enough? Also, the Main St Bridge walkway is usually pretty busy. Anyone at the Landing can easily see people walking it and once the fountain is up, they will easily be able to see that as well.

duvaldude08

May 22, 2011, 02:34:32 AM
The fountain is going to get noticed regardless. case closed

danem

May 22, 2011, 02:49:25 AM
The fountain is going to get noticed regardless. case closed

This is true. When I visited, before I moved here AND before it got fixed, I noticed it!

It's a fountain. People like fountains! Especially big ones!

duvaldude08

May 22, 2011, 03:09:53 AM
I loved the renovations. Im going to spend plenty of time there when its finished. I love it! We are doing alot of things right this year :)

Timkin

May 22, 2011, 02:05:13 PM
+1 .. it is looking awesome.  Going to be a really nice focal point on the Southbank

peestandingup

May 22, 2011, 03:59:24 PM
They HAVE to work on easy connectivity to both sides of the riverwalk or no one's gonna notice this fountain. The closest Skyway station isn't really close, and the Main street bridge walkway isn't very apparent to most people hanging around the Landing either. I have a friend visiting me from out of town who commented on this very thing while in that area. I noticed it too when I first started. It's a problem.

I am not sure I understand you here. The San Marco skyway station is about two blocks away. You don't feel this is close enough? Also, the Main St Bridge walkway is usually pretty busy. Anyone at the Landing can easily see people walking it and once the fountain is up, they will easily be able to see that as well.

peestandingup

May 22, 2011, 04:03:29 PM
Its not about closeness, its about being noticeable & clear.

For one, the Riverwalk itself doesnt connect to each side. Yes, there's a bridge with cars running on it & a small space for a walkway (that you cant see from the ground BTW). But what visitor thinks to get off the Riverwalk, walk up the block (off the Riverwalk) & then cross that bridge on foot?? You only think of it because you know its what to do. Trust me, no one visiting thinks that & there's no signs or anything telling you what to do. Same as the other side. Its not clear & its off the path, so why would anyone??

So, no. Thats a problem whether we all wanna believe it or not. They need to connect both sides of the Riverwalk to itself period, not in some half ass fashion using the Main Street Bridge. Either connect it directly or get free taxi boats that leave every 10 minutes or something like that. It looks like they just went cheap & tried to use the MS Bridge as a conduit because it was already there.

Same thing with the Skyway. Its not distance to the stations, but lack of a clear path on what to do. Here's a whacky idea. Why not a station AT the Landing?? Wouldn't that make sense & be, um, actually useful instead of plopping a couple stations in the middle of nowhere?? Cause I guarantee it would be the busiest Skyway station out of all of them (maybe even more so than the bus terminal stop).

The whole Riverwalk is a good concept for the most part, the infrastructure is generally there & they're doing good work. It just needs tweaked & someone to mull over some of the details like this. Seems a little incomplete. I think most people (esp first time visitors) would probably agree with that.

BTW, Jax as a whole I've noticed doesn't seem like they really do that with their public transportation & just overall pedestrian connectivity in general. It always seems like the people in charge of these things don't actually test out the usability of their systems & designs themselves, eliminate what doesn't work & accentuate what does. Its like they sorta just build it & then leave it alone forever without tweaking it. Am I wrong??

EDIT: Ugh, why the hell is everything quoting??

Ocklawaha

May 22, 2011, 05:57:49 PM









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"To be, or not to be: that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer..."  OOP'S still quoting in St. Johns.


A Shweeb monorail connecting the two sides would be spectacular, could be done cheap, it would be unique in the entire world, could be air conditioned (they refrigerate coolers don't they?), healthy, profitable, touristy, for play, for work, for transit, GREEN TECHNOLOGY, for competitions. Just needs some CHA-CHING and a permit or two. http://shweeb.com/   (there is also an American version but the Shweeb is proven)

The transit stop at Central Station is fine for the Skyway but taking the canopied walk from the Omni to the station, and along the foot of Hogan Street. Canopy's would put downtown ahead of Town Center Mall for walking comfort.

Water Street is  "S T R E E T C A R   T E R R I T O R Y."  A connection to the Skyway will be affected at Jacksonville Terminal. If the Skyway were to continue a logical march toward the stadium, it would cross the streetcar line at Bay and Newnan where a second connection is possible.



OCKLAWAHA

danem

May 22, 2011, 06:20:40 PM

A Shweeb monorail connecting the two sides would be spectacular, could be done cheap, it would be unique in the entire world, could be air conditioned (they refrigerate coolers don't they?), healthy, profitable, touristy, for play, for work, for transit, GREEN TECHNOLOGY, for competitions. Just needs some CHA-CHING and a permit or two. http://shweeb.com/   (there is also an American version but the Shweeb is proven)
 


I'll ride that thing. Looks fun! Should it go across the river or run parallel to it?

Ralph W

May 22, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
That's a  cool ride. How tall do you have to be to get on that ride? Just enough to reach the pedals?  What are the age limitations? I can see some old codger (or mature woman) getting on and pooping out half-way across the river. Or worse - a heart attack, all alone, dangling from a height beyond ladders or boat deck. Can you imagine JRFD transferring a patient to a stokes after pulling up behind the tube in a rescue tube?

second_pancake

May 22, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
That thing is freakin awesome!  Not very practical for a mass-transit sort of thing, but for recreation, and possible revenue (charge a couple bucks a ride...very touristy), it's great!

iMarvin

May 22, 2011, 10:12:24 PM
Where is the shweeb thing located?

danno

May 22, 2011, 10:18:43 PM
My favorite country.... New Zealand!

Ocklawaha

May 22, 2011, 10:24:25 PM
Ralph, that same person might climb out a bus window, pull the emergency door at 30,000 feet, or poop in the middle of Sac's 5Th Avenue, but not to build based on fear would have kept us in caves.

As far as transit is concerned it is very fast, overtaking a slower car just doubles the energy and you run entrain or slow down and move at a different pace. Switches are also designed. Not saying it would ever beat a regular transit vehicle, but a lot of young professionals would jump in a car and peddle to lunch. Y'all are right, it would be the only urban system in the world.


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tufsu1

May 22, 2011, 10:46:42 PM
Trust me, no one visiting thinks that & there's no signs or anything telling you what to do. Same as the other side. Its not clear & its off the path, so why would anyone??

there are plenty of visitors staying at Southbank hotels that find the Main St bridge walkway without any problem.

That said, the upcoming riverwalk changes (specifically the ampitheater-like space) will make for better connections.

peestandingup

May 23, 2011, 12:28:08 AM
Trust me, no one visiting thinks that & there's no signs or anything telling you what to do. Same as the other side. Its not clear & its off the path, so why would anyone??

there are plenty of visitors staying at Southbank hotels that find the Main St bridge walkway without any problem.

That said, the upcoming riverwalk changes (specifically the ampitheater-like space) will make for better connections.

But we're mostly talking about visitors to downtown finding their way over to that big lighted fountain & the rest of the Riverwalk in general. It's probably safe to say that most visitors to our downtown think that the Riverwalk ends right there. Obviously it doesn't, but how would they know that??

And besides, the Southbank visitors are staying at hotels. And I'd bet you anything that the ones who make their way over to the Northbank on foot got explicit directions from hotel staff on just how to do that. Like I said, it's not at all clear on how to do that without either askink or just knowing first.

Jason

May 23, 2011, 01:19:04 PM

What are the last pictures of...the light-looking things in the cement walkway?

There are, what I call, light stanchions along the concrete walkways all around the Fountain, I would expect they will add a great deal to the ambiance at night...

This picture has one right in the forefront...


-Bob
JaxFountain.com


Those light stanchions are called bollard lights.  Assuming they are of descent quality, they should be a nice addition to the park. 

duvaldude08

May 23, 2011, 02:07:51 PM
I seen they were wheeling in some more trees this morning when I was pulling into work.

Bob_Johnson

May 23, 2011, 02:24:17 PM
I seen they were wheeling in some more trees this morning when I was pulling into work.

They were supposed to be bringing in more trees and palms early this week with the hopes of starting to lay sod towards the end of the week...

I am planning on being down there this Thursday morning so will update then...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

duvaldude08

May 23, 2011, 02:41:37 PM
I seen they were wheeling in some more trees this morning when I was pulling into work.

They were supposed to be bringing in more trees and palms early this week with the hopes of starting to lay sod towards the end of the week...

I am planning on being down there this Thursday morning so will update then...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Thanks Bob!

Tacachale

May 23, 2011, 02:50:39 PM
Thanks a lot Bob. This is really looking good.

Bob_Johnson

May 25, 2011, 04:59:20 PM
The Green is coming :)



I got a call today that the Sod had arrived and was just starting to be laid.  I trucked on down and got some pictures of the first sod being laid.  More palm trees were also in place and within a week i would imagine we will get a good idea of the finished look of the Park...

Also if you view some of the other pictures I took today you will see the entire west side of the park is all set for sod being laid...
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/May252011

I also used a new App on my Dell Streak and got this image, almost looks like all the green is there ;)



Here is what the finished Light Stands around the Fountain look like:



A huge improvement over the old tile covered stands IMHO...

And if anyone happens, just happens to be on the Main Street bridge tomorrow evening, May 26, say around 8 PM or so you might just get to see the Fountain flowing with lights and music...  Just maybe now, can't promise but...

Enjoy,
Bob
JaxFountain.com

Ps... I also took this short video of the Fountain flowing, just to get the juices going ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaUIiRXqwQ

jcjohnpaint

May 25, 2011, 05:45:29 PM
looking beautiful

Timkin

May 25, 2011, 05:50:34 PM
wow ....awesome

Tacachale

May 25, 2011, 05:52:01 PM
So cool.

Gators312

May 25, 2011, 05:52:44 PM
After myself and 4 friends made our way out of an overcrowded Beerfest last Friday, we went to Chicago's Pizza for some full size beers and some grub.  

The fountain was operating providing a beautiful view from the patio, really looks nice at night!

Nice work!

iMarvin

May 25, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
It's looking great!  ;D

acme54321

May 25, 2011, 06:09:37 PM
Just rode by on my bike, the sod looks really good.  Bob do you know what kind of grass it is?  Didn't look like St Aug. but I was outside of the fence so I wasn't that close.

Bob_Johnson

May 25, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
Just rode by on my bike, the sod looks really good.  Bob do you know what kind of grass it is?  Didn't look like St Aug. but I was outside of the fence so I wasn't that close.

No I didn't ask, i will ask tomorrow evening, but it isn't St. Augustine which would never hold up for that use as far as I know.  Bermuda would be my guess but, just a guess.

I also just uploaded this video i took today, to get the "juices" flowing for those that haven't seen it yet ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaUIiRXqwQ

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Cliffs_Daughter

May 25, 2011, 06:22:05 PM
That is just beautiful.   ;D

fsujax

May 25, 2011, 06:48:56 PM
the sod appears to be bermuda or maybe zyosia.

Jason

May 26, 2011, 07:59:27 PM
Looks like the "empire" brand of hybrid zoisia.

fsujax

May 26, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
I saw the fountain in action today! it looked nice.

duvaldude08

May 26, 2011, 08:41:57 PM
Me too! I had an appointment DT on my lunch break and coming back across the main street bridge I noticed. Once I was at work, I also watched it out the window. Thats when I noticed the grass being put down. I dont recall it ever looking this amazing. Money well spent this time!

Tacachale

May 26, 2011, 09:10:41 PM
Me too! I had an appointment DT on my lunch break and coming back across the main street bridge I noticed. Once I was at work, I also watched it out the window. Thats when I noticed the grass being put down. I dont recall it ever looking this amazing. Money well spent this time!

Absolutely! If only all our money were so well spent...

Bob_Johnson

May 26, 2011, 09:57:54 PM
Ok folks, the grass is Tifway 419 Bermuda grass.

I just got back from the first full test of the night lighting and programming for the Fountain and I took hundreds of pictures which will take some time to sort through but here is a couple just to wet your appetite...  ;)





They also pumped the center ring to max which just before a gust of wind came along looked as tall as I can ever remember and they say max is now around 110 feet...



Once I sort through all the rest of the pictures I will upload them and post again.

But I have to say that the Fountain was just awesome when the music was playing, lights changing and the rings going up and down in pressure and height...

Awesome is the only word i can think of tonight :)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com



duvaldude08

May 26, 2011, 10:22:56 PM
Ok folks, the grass is Tifway 419 Bermuda grass.

I just got back from the first full test of the night lighting and programming for the Fountain and I took hundreds of pictures which will take some time to sort through but here is a couple just to wet your appetite...  ;)





They also pumped the center ring to max which just before a gust of wind came along looked as tall as I can ever remember and they say max is now around 110 feet...



Once I sort through all the rest of the pictures I will upload them and post again.

But I have to say that the Fountain was just awesome when the music was playing, lights changing and the rings going up and down in pressure and height...

Awesome is the only word i can think of tonight :)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com





HOLY S@#T! LOOK AT THAT!!

Bob_Johnson

May 26, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
I have uploaded all the pictures, I still need to label some of them but they can be seen here.
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/May262011Night

And after uploading them I realized I should have posted this one earlier...



I probably won't update the Blog until tomorrow after I have labeled some of the pictures ...

Hope you enjoy,
Bob

Bob_Johnson

May 27, 2011, 12:36:26 AM
One more for tonight...  A short video of the Fountain in the final color setting for the first night test...

Jaguars Teal :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1VYGGYosYw

-Bob

acme54321

May 27, 2011, 06:59:01 AM
We went out last night to check out the fountain.  the whole park looks so much better, and the fountain is a whole lot more impressive now than the dribble that was going through it last year.  When they had it going all out it really tall.  The outer ring is a lot stronger now also.

We talked to an older guy that I got the impression was the project manager or something.  He told us all about how the fountain worked and the different programs it had.  We suggested an orange and blue program to the tune of the gator chomp ;D for FL/GA.

fsujax

May 27, 2011, 08:22:09 AM
Teal for the Jags for those night games!

KenFSU

May 27, 2011, 08:37:16 AM
FANTASTIC pictures.

Thanks for the updates Bob.

I cannot wait to see her in action.

Bob_Johnson

May 27, 2011, 10:10:40 AM
I just Updated the Blog at JaxFountain.com

http://blog.jaxfountain.com/2011/05/night-time-light-test.html

Remember to set aside the Morning of June 18, 2011 for the Grand reopening of Friendship Fountain and Park...

-Bob

CG7

May 27, 2011, 10:30:50 AM
I haven't smile like that about something downtown since I walked the main library on opening day.

BridgeTroll

May 27, 2011, 10:46:58 AM
I think Im gonna take a short trip over there today at lunch...

edjax

May 27, 2011, 10:54:38 AM
This is looking awesome...like the good old days when I moved to Jax.  Now the city needs to give some serious incentive..as in free for a year or so...for someone to open a small snack/ice cream parlor in the riverwalk building next to the Main St bridge...even if just open on weekends for now.

Bativac

May 27, 2011, 11:00:22 AM
I can't believe they finally fixed it! Well done Jacksonville! Now if only something could be done about the water feature around the Maritime Museum. That thing was once pretty nice.

tufsu1

May 27, 2011, 11:16:42 AM
well that water feature and those buildings will be coming down soon....all part of the southbank riverwalk redesign

Bob_Johnson

May 27, 2011, 12:14:55 PM
Now the city needs to give some serious incentive..as in free for a year or so...for someone to open a small snack/ice cream parlor in the riverwalk building next to the Main St bridge...even if just open on weekends for now.

As tufsu1 indicated those buildings are slated for removal as part of the upcoming Southbank riverwalk renovations. 

I happen to agree with edjax that the old Maritime Museum Bldg would be a perfect small snack shop of some sort but i do know that it would require extensive repairs, the roof needs replacing and the water feature probably needs restoration and I doubt the decision to remove is going to be reversed... :(

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

duvaldude08

May 27, 2011, 12:42:38 PM
Bob,

A small Ampi Theatre are in the riverwalk plans right?



hightowerlover

May 27, 2011, 12:50:31 PM
and to think they nearly demolished it

JeffreyS

May 27, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Is it going to be on at night during the Jazz Fest?

Bob_Johnson

May 27, 2011, 10:52:17 PM
I do not have the full details for all of the Southbank renovations but I understand some basics...

Wood walkway replaced with Concrete
Old Maritime Museum bldg removed
Some changes to the actual course of the Riverwalk at some points...

Jeffrey I doubt that the Fountain will be running nightly (at least with lights) until closer to Jun 18...

-Bob

JC

May 27, 2011, 11:02:17 PM
Do we know who the contractor is on this project?

Bob_Johnson

May 28, 2011, 12:57:04 AM
Do we know who the contractor is on this project?

Looks like Haskell Company...

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,10199.0.html

A really good post on the Southbank with current images and Artist renderings of the changes is here:
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-may-southbank-riverwalk-plan-unveiled

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

JC

May 28, 2011, 06:57:52 AM
Do we know who the contractor is on this project?

Looks like Haskell Company...

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,10199.0.html

A really good post on the Southbank with current images and Artist renderings of the changes is here:
http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-may-southbank-riverwalk-plan-unveiled

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Thanks.

Charles Hunter

May 28, 2011, 07:14:31 AM
Was walking the northbank riverwalk after Jazz Fest last night, and no, the fountain was not on.  Unless there is some reason to NOT run it during Jazz Fest, I think it would be nice for all the visitors to downtown.

Bob_Johnson

May 28, 2011, 08:18:17 AM
Hello Charles,

The Anemometer has not yet been placed into operation and I know that the City will not permit the unattended operation of the Fountain without the Anemometer and the automatic wind speed based limits being operational .

Additionally the lights are not fully functional as of yet, that was what the Thursday night test was conducted for, so I doubt the contractor would want to run them unattended as well as of yet...

While it would have been nice to have the Fountain operational for the Jazz festival the timing just didn't work out...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Charles Hunter

May 28, 2011, 08:23:29 AM
Gotcha - I agree, everything should be 'right' before it makes its grand debut!

Bob_Johnson

June 03, 2011, 04:47:23 PM
Another Friday afternoon and another Friendship Fountain update :)

There is one small section left to have sod laid which will probably be done Monday.  What a difference it makes having all that grass to walk on and I can tell you now there are places all around the Fountain for folks to "take a load off" whether at a picnic table or just plopping down on some grass under shade.



All the pictures from today are located at the below link, note that I haven't labeled them as of this time but hope to later this evening to tomorrow AM...
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/Jun032011

Just two weeks to the Grand Reopening, which if I haven't mentioned before ;) is scheduled for 9:00 AM ET Saturday June 18, 2011 and I certainly hope to get to meet some of you that Saturday, my Wife and I will be the ones wearing White T-Shirts that you should be able to identify  :o

The Fountain water is up to the correct level of 22 inches deep, in case anyone was wondering, and there will be more tests in the days and evenings to come but most of the focus is on getting all the final details completed.

Some highlights...







I expect to have some more opportunities to get pictures in the next two weeks leading up to the Grand Reopening, June 18, 2011 9:00 AM ET in case i didn't mention it ;), including some more Night Time images and hopefully videos...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com




Noone

June 03, 2011, 05:00:03 PM
Loking forward to it. Nice pics.

904Scars

June 03, 2011, 05:01:14 PM
Awesome, I have that Saturday off work, so I just marked it on my calendar! I'll probably grab a few friends and ride my bike up there.

acme54321

June 03, 2011, 05:32:00 PM
Bob do you know when the next night test will be?

Bob_Johnson

June 03, 2011, 05:48:10 PM
Actually I asked but was told they haven't set it yet, however I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't this Thursday night again, seems that last Thursday night I heard talk that was one evening of the week when all the principles had free ;)

As soon as I know for sure I will post again, but there may be multiple evening tests between now and the 18th to make sure everything is working as expected and I may not get notified about some of them, as they may be partial tests. 

Just as a side note not only are they making sure all of the Fountain lights and Tower lights are working but also the bollard lights and a large number of Up Tree lighting and spot lighting in the picnic areas and trees lining the area between MOSH and the Fountain.

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

tufsu1

June 03, 2011, 10:02:34 PM
the tower lights were on tonight

Bativac

June 04, 2011, 11:13:17 AM
The fountain was definitely on for at least part of Jazz Fest. My wife and I, and our friends, and a dozen other people on the Main St Bridge stopped and watched it for a good ten minutes. Maybe it was just a test but it looked gorgeous. Jacksonville has done a fantastic job on this project and I only hope it's something that will be maintained for years to come, and that it was done correctly in the first place (I'm thinking of the Laura St roundabout, the Kids Kampus at Metro Park, the Southbank Riverwalk, etc).

The landscaping looks fantastic and the fountain was beautiful. When that middle section shot up, I couldn't help but grin.

Bob_Johnson

June 04, 2011, 05:40:23 PM
and that it was done correctly in the first place (I'm thinking of the Laura St roundabout, the Kids Kampus at Metro Park, the Southbank Riverwalk, etc).


Well two things that were done correctly, without a doubt...

1:  Replaced the Pumps with brand new custom pumps (until now the original pumps from 1965 were in use)

2: Got rid of all that God awful concrete and Greened up the place :)

A plus has to be all the in Fountain Lighting is now LED, Brighter, Longer lasting and less electric use...  So that would have to be three ;)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Bob_Johnson

June 05, 2011, 10:08:47 PM
I got a late call that there would be some going ons down at the Fountain tonight and sure enough they ran through one of the Music programs and all I can say it was just awesome...

Also a special color sequence was tested they are calling "Donna Pink" :)



I will be posting more tomorrow just wanted to post a quick update tonight as soon as i got back...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

danno

June 06, 2011, 07:41:30 AM
sweet

fsujax

June 06, 2011, 08:18:56 AM
very cool. can't wait to see it in full action. Especially on the 4th of July.

Tacachale

June 06, 2011, 08:27:21 AM
Awesome!

Bob_Johnson

June 06, 2011, 09:56:41 AM
I just finished uploading pictures and videos.

You can see the videos here:
http://www.youtube.com/JaxFountain

The two I want to point out are these two:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuUGTMIkp30   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVwaIekaUPU

But for Fans of the Fountain I would check them all out, they show the range of our Refurbished Fountain.  Remember that the Outer ring can now pump more water than ever before and can create a complete canopy over the Fountain.

The pictures are located here, still not labeled.
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/Jun052011

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Dog Walker

June 06, 2011, 10:02:44 AM
Great videos, Bob.  The new LED lights give way more intense colors than the original lights did and can be switched more rapidly too.

Seeing the fountain run again brings back some great memories of when it was new.

comncense

June 06, 2011, 10:09:36 AM
That is pretty nice. It would be cool if they swayed or could shoot independently somewhat like the Bellagio's fountains :)

Bob_Johnson

June 06, 2011, 12:26:23 PM
I just finished uploading one video I took with my camera (the others were taken with a Samsung Camorder) and it is a full length song, 3.13 in length.  There are some moments of blurred focus which were camera related...
http://youtu.be/uRofiK4fFVc

Even though it isn't the greatest quality you can get an idea of a full song programming.

Also just for those that have asked there is supposed to be another (I believe full length) programming test this Thursday evening starting at 8 PM ET for COJ figures including the Mayor.  Hopefully all of the Park lighting will be lit as well, and there is a number of elements with that, up tree lighting as well as the Bollard lights and tier lighting.

Also for those who may be puttering around downtown late on Tuesday and Wednesday evenings you may see the Fountain in operation with lighting as the programmer works at night and expects to be working those nights..

The last sod should be laid today or tomorrow (just a small section in the north east corner) and other than that all that remains to be done is small detail type work, reinforcing the additional palms around the Pumphouse some minor wiring and such...

June 18 is coming fast and the Friendship Fountain renovations are in the Home Stretch :)

One more video to point out is the link below, I took that before sunset Sunday and gives an idea of the new layout when you walk into the Park, for those of you who have frequented the Fountain in the past you should see the huge differences immediately...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTKJhyIF1Ac

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

duvaldude08

June 06, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
I just finished uploading one video I took with my camera (the others were taken with a Samsung Camorder) and it is a full length song, 3.13 in length.  There are some moments of blurred focus which were camera related...
http://youtu.be/uRofiK4fFVc

Even though it isn't the greatest quality you can get an idea of a full song programming.

Also just for those that have asked there is supposed to be another (I believe full length) programming test this Thursday evening starting at 8 PM ET for COJ figures including the Mayor.  Hopefully all of the Park lighting will be lit as well, and there is a number of elements with that, up tree lighting as well as the Bollard lights and tier lighting.

Also for those who may be puttering around downtown late on Tuesday and Wednesday evenings you may see the Fountain in operation with lighting as the programmer works at night and expects to be working those nights..

The last sod should be laid today or tomorrow (just a small section in the north east corner) and other than that all that remains to be done is small detail type work, reinforcing the additional palms around the Pumphouse some minor wiring and such...

June 18 is coming fast and the Friendship Fountain renovations are in the Home Stretch :)

One more video to point out is the link below, I took that before sunset Sunday and gives an idea of the new layout when you walk into the Park, for those of you who have frequented the Fountain in the past you should see the huge differences immediately...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTKJhyIF1Ac

-Bob
JaxFountain.com



Bob,

What kind of statue is being placed in the round about?

Bob_Johnson

June 06, 2011, 01:12:22 PM
So far no one I have talked to has had any idea...

I searched and searched online regarding the statue and found references to a sculpture but not what it was...

-Bob

BridgeTroll

June 06, 2011, 01:14:28 PM
Bobs Vid...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uRofiK4fFVc" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/uRofiK4fFVc</a>

Bob_Johnson

June 06, 2011, 01:50:05 PM

Bob,

What kind of statue is being placed in the round about?

Just got an email from the City PIO Officer Ginny Walthour and the sculpture is called "StiltWalkers" and was purchased by the San Marco Merchants Association to be placed on the roundabout at Museum Circle, which is also expected to be completed by Jun 18, 2011 in time for the Friendship Fountain Grand Reopening...

-Bob

duvaldude08

June 06, 2011, 02:30:06 PM

Bob,

What kind of statue is being placed in the round about?

Just got an email from the City PIO Officer Ginny Walthour and the sculpture is called "StiltWalkers" and was purchased by the San Marco Merchants Association to be placed on the roundabout at Museum Circle, which is also expected to be completed by Jun 18, 2011 in time for the Friendship Fountain Grand Reopening...

-Bob

That is a neat looking sculpture.  Perfect for an area where there is a museum.

Keith-N-Jax

June 06, 2011, 04:51:24 PM
They really did a nice job with the landscaping.

Bob_Johnson

June 07, 2011, 04:06:43 PM
Just got an email from Ginny Walthour with the COJ Public Information Office...

I will let the image speak for itself ;)

danem

June 07, 2011, 04:19:16 PM
I just saw the video; that's really cool. I wasn't expecting a musical Bellagio Jr.!  ;D

Dog Walker

June 07, 2011, 05:12:20 PM
And really good graphic design on the logo for the park!  Who did that one?  Somebody deserves a back pat in public.

acme54321

June 09, 2011, 06:25:26 PM
Bob, will there be light tonight?

Bob_Johnson

June 09, 2011, 10:48:09 PM
Bob, will there be light tonight?

Sorry I was already at the Fountain when you posted.  There was light, man was there light :)

I just got home so won't be able to upload stuff until tomorrow but they ran through the Patriotic Program two full times and i got video and pictures.

For those of you on Twitter check out the hashtag #FriendshipFountain for the pictures I took with my Dell Streak while I was there.

I will post more tomorrow but I can say without question Jacksonville has it's Signature landmark back better than ever!

Edit:  The Mayor was there for the second run through along with a number of other city personal including Eric Lindstrom from the JEDC

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

blizz01

June 09, 2011, 10:54:32 PM
+1

Bob_Johnson

June 10, 2011, 12:21:45 AM
Here is a retro cam shot I took with my Dell Streak tonight.  Sure looks much more inviting than the Fountain of old.



Will post again later tomorrow (today) when I get some of the pictures and videos uploaded...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Bob_Johnson

June 10, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
I am still working on all the videos and pictures but I did want to get a link posted as soon as possible.

The Below URL contains 9 YouTube videos of the Program run last night, from ground level, as well as a partial Tour of the the new Friendship Fountain Park.
http://www.JaxFountain.com/FriendshipFountainDisplay2011.php

I will be tweaking things as the day goes on but the URL will remain the same.  I will also be posting up an additional file with 9 more YouTube videos as I was able to shoot the program a second time from the Pump House Roof and as soon as that is ready I will add the URL.

But no matter what nothing can compare to actually being there and watching, it is just awesome!

Edit: Pump House Roof Videos: http://www.jaxfountain.com/FriendshipFountainDisplay2011PumpHouse.php

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Bob_Johnson

June 10, 2011, 12:01:37 PM
Ok the pictures are up and here is a couple I like...





http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/Jun092011

Remember one week Saturday June 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM ET Friendship Fountain Grand Reopening...

Hope to see you there,
Bob
JaxFountain.com

hightowerlover

June 10, 2011, 01:50:47 PM
that landscaping really makes all the difference in the world, it's like the gem of jacksonville all shined up and reset in platinum.

duvaldude08

June 10, 2011, 02:02:57 PM
Bob-

Just looked out the window and the middle steam is shooting its highest that Ive seen it! That looks freaky. It scared the crap out of me when I looked out the window. I do see the water is not very controled and is spraying everywhere. I wish it could go that high all the time.

Bob_Johnson

June 10, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
They may be working on setting the wind controls, determining where to set the thresholds...

There is concern about the overspray beyond Human discomfort/safety...   Grass doesn't like chlorine...

-Bob

duvaldude08

June 10, 2011, 02:44:39 PM
They may be working on setting the wind controls, determining where to set the thresholds...

There is concern about the overspray beyond Human discomfort/safety...   Grass doesn't like chlorine...

-Bob


I work on the 7th floor of the prudential building. So it was spraying HIGH. It will be nice to see how high its going to be set.

Riverrat

June 10, 2011, 04:33:18 PM
The renovations at Friendship Fountain are remarkable!!! What a GEM for the city!!! I'm so excited that Jacksonville is finally getting in the game of making everything more aesthetically pleasing. My only concern (and I hate to be negative) is how long the fountain lasts at this gorgeous state...I'm thinking about the Main Street Bridge here where it doesn't fully light anymore and the LED doesn't work any more...I would hope that with the amount of money invested in this project, the city keeps up with it!

wsansewjs

June 10, 2011, 04:36:38 PM
The renovations at Friendship Fountain are remarkable!!! What a GEM for the city!!! I'm so excited that Jacksonville is finally getting in the game of making everything more aesthetically pleasing. My only concern (and I hate to be negative) is how long the fountain lasts at this gorgeous state...I'm thinking about the Main Street Bridge here where it doesn't fully light anymore and the LED doesn't work any more...I would hope that with the amount of money invested in this project, the city keeps up with it!

Wait, the blue lights on the main street bridge is LED-based?

-Josh

Dapperdan

June 10, 2011, 04:45:04 PM
The renovations at Friendship Fountain are remarkable!!! What a GEM for the city!!! I'm so excited that Jacksonville is finally getting in the game of making everything more aesthetically pleasing. My only concern (and I hate to be negative) is how long the fountain lasts at this gorgeous state...I'm thinking about the Main Street Bridge here where it doesn't fully light anymore and the LED doesn't work any more...I would hope that with the amount of money invested in this project, the city keeps up with it!

Wait, the blue lights on the main street bridge is LED-based?

-Josh

No, there are, or were, long LED strips placed at the top of both towers on the main street bridge just before Superbowl. They looked fantastic as they could change colors and make moving pictures such as an illusion of a flag, etc. i think Tri Vu had something to do with it.
 Last I heard, the LED lights got damp and went dark and no one has fixed them. Typical Jacksonville when something breaks, it never gets fixed. How long has the founatin been in disrepair before they fixed it up? Yet, there are LED lights completely submerged in a fountain now, go figure.

Dapperdan

June 10, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
Bob,
 What will the foutain be like during normal weekdays and weekends? Are we only treated to the light show during special events?

Bob_Johnson

June 10, 2011, 06:43:16 PM
My only concern (and I hate to be negative) is how long the fountain lasts at this gorgeous state...I'm thinking about the Main Street Bridge here where it doesn't fully light anymore and the LED doesn't work any more...I would hope that with the amount of money invested in this project, the city keeps up with it!

That would be one of the things I hope that JaxFountain.com and these Forums can help with, if someone notices an issue bring it to as many peoples attention as possible...   There is no question that the Squeaky wheel usually gets the grease ;)  That is what started JaxFountain.com to start with, making noise  8)

Bob,
 What will the fountain be like during normal weekdays and weekends? Are we only treated to the light show during special events?

I do not know but I would think that most likely the Fountain would be on Static display most of the time, hopefully with some changing of the lights and colors but that will be a City deal with whoever is responsible for managing it, which I am planning on asking about this week.

I can tell you that Mayor Peyton appeared very impressed last night with the Fountain, park and lighting and we will have to see how much the new Administration invests in actually using the Fountain and what they will do for normal non event times...

I actually spent some time today trying to locate an email address to contact Mayor Elect Brown with no luck...

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Fallen Buckeye

June 10, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
Personally, I'm little concerned with how loud the music will be on a normal night. I'm having a wedding reception on the roof of MOSH next month and I think the fountain will be wonderful for ambiance, but I don't want our music competing with the fountain music either. I have been anxiously watching how this project has unfolded, and I'm definitely pleased over all.

Bob_Johnson

June 11, 2011, 08:53:16 AM
WJXT, TV4 ran a video report on the Fountain yesterday and in that report indicated that after Reopening on the 18th the Patriotic Program would be run nightly from 8:30 PM ET to 10:00 PM ET, I have sent an inquiry to check on that.
http://www.news4jax.com/video/28202024/index.html

Print Story isn't nearly as detailed...
http://www.news4jax.com/news/28200584/detail.html

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

David

June 16, 2011, 08:33:07 AM
The fountain was looking sharp last night. I haven't seen the pumps shoot water that high in quite a long time. Sounds like they were testing out an audio system because I kept hearing snipits of "snow flakes falling on my window" being played over the loud speaker. Pretty fitting for the falling ash we've had this past week!

Bob_Johnson

June 16, 2011, 09:07:31 AM
I kept hearing snipits of "snow flakes falling on my window" being played over the loud speaker. Pretty fitting for the falling ash we've had this past week!


Probably the programmer working on the Christmas program which hadn't been completed, at least as of last week.

Just two more days and the grand reopening...  Can't wait :)

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Dapperdan

June 16, 2011, 12:44:35 PM
Park is open today. I went over and had some lunch in the shade.

Bob_Johnson

June 16, 2011, 01:00:05 PM
Yep all the construction fencing has been removed and around 11 AM ET they were running the Christmas Program.

A view of the Southbank Riverwalk along the Fountain Park:


Lots of folks taking care of last minute items, some last minute pressure washing, a group going over the Fountain Pump Panels in the Pump House, some last minute landscaping but everything looks good for the grand reopening this Saturday, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM :)

Look at all that green...




Hope to get to meet many of you this Saturday.

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

duvaldude08

June 16, 2011, 01:03:54 PM
I seen that. Im going to walk over on my lunch break in a few minutes and take a tour.

iMarvin

June 16, 2011, 01:12:18 PM
;D WOW! This city loves those bricks :D The park and fountain look so good! I don't think I'll be able to go to the grand reopening, but I'll be down there as soon as possible!  :)

duvaldude08

June 16, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
I took walk over on my break it is beautiful. I have been to the fountain many times. And today I had an overwhelming feeling. (I know thats sounds corny but its so true.) It actually feels like a park now and the fountain looks amazing. Im going to spending alot of time there.

Luveenyah

June 16, 2011, 11:33:00 PM
I randomly took a drive over there and stopped to watch them test out synced xmas music.  Park looks great, fountain breathtaking...I'm so excited for this project.  Crazy to see how far it's come along!

Tacachale

June 17, 2011, 09:23:05 AM
Awesome, awesome pictures. Fantastic work by everyone involved, Bob. I'm really hoping to get out there for Saturday morning.

JeffreyS

June 17, 2011, 09:36:06 AM
I am RSVPing for tomorrow and bringing my five year old son to a remastered Jacksonville landmark.

north miami

June 17, 2011, 01:20:31 PM
I took walk over on my break it is beautiful. I have been to the fountain many times. And today I had an overwhelming feeling. (I know thats sounds corny but its so true.)

My wife and I experienced the same overwhelm during the past Jazz Festival.Among recent others.The Fountain is the latest renewal metaphor.

In the past going Downtown seemed as if visiting a friend in a Critical Care wing.........now our friend is looking forward to recovery.

duvaldude08

June 17, 2011, 01:34:01 PM
I took walk over on my break it is beautiful. I have been to the fountain many times. And today I had an overwhelming feeling. (I know that's sounds corny but its so true.)

My wife and I experienced the same overwhelm during the past Jazz Festival.Among recent others.The Fountain is the latest renewal metaphor.

In the past going Downtown seemed as if visiting a friend in a Critical Care wing.........now our friend is looking forward to recovery.

I Did at the Jazz Fest Also! I had a feeling of " Wow Jacksonville is finally growing up." The way we pulled off the Jazz Fest shows me alot about this city and how much we have grown. I think we are finally experiencing the effects of the super bowl. That was a HUGE learning experience for us.  I was upset about the criticism that I heard, actually hurt by it, but as a city it helped us to realize our short coming's. Progress has been slow going (due to leadership), but things are finally taking off.

Doctor_K

June 17, 2011, 01:49:47 PM
In the past going Downtown seemed as if visiting a friend in a Critical Care wing.........now our friend is looking forward to recovery.

Succinct, apt, and accurate.  Very well said. :)

Coolyfett

June 17, 2011, 08:32:24 PM
I took walk over on my break it is beautiful. I have been to the fountain many times. And today I had an overwhelming feeling. (I know that's sounds corny but its so true.)

Very interesting.

My wife and I experienced the same overwhelm during the past Jazz Festival.Among recent others.The Fountain is the latest renewal metaphor.

In the past going Downtown seemed as if visiting a friend in a Critical Care wing.........now our friend is looking forward to recovery.

I Did at the Jazz Fest Also! I had a feeling of " Wow Jacksonville is finally growing up." The way we pulled off the Jazz Fest shows me alot about this city and how much we have grown. I think we are finally experiencing the effects of the super bowl. That was a HUGE learning experience for us.  I was upset about the criticism that I heard, actually hurt by it, but as a city it helped us to realize our short coming's. Progress has been slow going (due to leadership), but things are finally taking off.

Very Interesting.

letters and numbers

June 18, 2011, 01:12:29 AM
you know I think it looks best at night after the lef zepplain show at mosh

Bob_Johnson

June 18, 2011, 11:49:49 AM
Wow just got back from the Grand Reopening of Friendship Park and Fountain.  There was a very nice crowd for the grand reopening and it was just great.

The biggest thrill for me was when the Formalities were over just seeing all those folks enjoying the Fountain and New park, just a great sight to see...

Will be uploading pictures and videos later today and posting at JaxFountain.com

Celebrate Jacksonville, Our Fountain is back!

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

JeffreyS

June 18, 2011, 12:34:45 PM
It was a great time.

JeffreyS

June 18, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
It was a good day for the mayor.  Mr Peyton talked about this, Laura street and the river walk improvements making downtown ready for developers as the recession ends.

fsujax

June 18, 2011, 01:32:03 PM
what a great time at the fountain this morning. It was cool seeing so many who post here.

thelakelander

June 18, 2011, 01:45:44 PM
Here are a few images:



tufsu1

June 18, 2011, 03:16:40 PM
what a great time at the fountain this morning. It was cool seeing so many who post here.

+1

I must say...Lake's pics are far better than mine....shame on me for using my cell phone camera!

north miami

June 18, 2011, 04:42:33 PM

Could not make the opening,but looking forward to a stroll this evening.No doubt will spend a few bucks within eyesight of the fountain.A toast to the Fountain caretakers.Yea!!
In the past spontaneous Downtown visits a bit rare even for one who resides nearby.

Recent positive events for Downtown make for feelings of confidence and anticipation.

XO

Bob_Johnson

June 18, 2011, 05:22:46 PM
I just finished uploading the Video's of the Ceremony, sound came out pretty good.  I broke it up into
6 separate segments and they are Titled in order:
Friendship Fountain Grand Reopening Ceremony Pt 1 - Friendship Fountain Grand Reopening Ceremony Pt 6

http://www.youtube.com/JaxFountain

-Bob

JeffreyS

June 18, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
Here are a few of my pics.





The Wet side of the Fountain.

Bob_Johnson

June 18, 2011, 08:21:33 PM
Flash Mob during Friendship Fountain Grand reopening posted to YouTube:
http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403251/gary-mills/2011-06-18/flash-mob-celebrates-friendship-fountains-reopening

Nice crowd :)


-Bob
JaxFountain.com

peestandingup

June 19, 2011, 01:38:25 AM
Was there at dusk & most the night. REALLY impressive. I was taken back how massive & awesome it is. Good job to everyone who worked on it. It's really something.

Plenty of activity around it, kids playing, grownups, couples, etc. There were also a lot of people walking on the bridge. The Landing & around Bay had a lot of activity too. Jax is actually starting to look alive. :)






Shot from the Landing at dusk.




Cheers, fountain!


On Main St Bridge



peestandingup

June 19, 2011, 01:40:57 AM
Here's a video too: http://vimeo.com/25296110

BTW, sorry if any of these suck. Used my cell phone camera.

Anyways, I'd encourage everyone to go see it in person. Pics & videos don't do it justice.

tufsu1

June 19, 2011, 06:48:40 PM
was driving down Main Street today...you can see the fountain (when center pumps are high) all the way up to 1st St in Springfield

north miami

June 19, 2011, 08:00:01 PM

Thank you Bob Johnson. whoever you are,you are an Angel.


By the way, a run to Downtown Jacksonville........and The Fountain!!........is a proven popular signature Jacksonville Boating activity.

Bob_Johnson

June 20, 2011, 10:11:26 AM
north miami thanks very much but I can promise I am no Angel (My wife will attest to that) just a guy who thinks that Friendship Fountain is the single most recognizable landmark in Jacksonville, FL and as such should be celebrated :)



Speaking of Celebrating Not only was there a good sized crowd for the grand reopening but an even larger crowd saw the patriotic program run for the first time at night on Saturday evening.  Then on Sunday I took a ride on down to the Fountain and was there for over an hour and at no time was there less then a dozen or more folks.

Again folks taking pictures all around the Fountain, and the water features appeared to be using a random combination of patterns, including the Center ring shooting to it's max height at one time.

I took a couple of hundred pictures some of which can be seen at the below link, some of these will end up on shirts at CafePress and CustomInk.

http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/Jun192011

I also believe that the First Wedding at the Renovated Fountain was held yesterday afternoon and I have received three inquiries about how to schedule a Wedding at the Fountain in the last 24 hours so if you know anyone that will be getting married in the Future you may want to suggest considering a Friendship Fountain wedding :)

Also if anyone that has been married at the Fountain or gets married there in the Future will send a picture or pictures I am planning on starting a Friendship Fountain Wedding Album as part of the Fountain Gallery web site.

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Dapperdan

June 20, 2011, 10:15:40 AM
Next up, Bob, is the Riverwalk reconstruction, hopefully that goes as smoothly. It is nice to see this area of town get some much needed maintenance and I think 3.1 million was a bargain for this.

Fallen Buckeye

June 20, 2011, 12:24:48 PM
I was told by the people at MOSH that weddings there are really cheap, too. I think that they said like $35 to rent the park. For comparison, I think we're paying like $400 an hour to rent the roof of MOSH.

Bob_Johnson

June 20, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
The permit for a Wedding at a City Park is only $35.00 including Friendship Fountain park.

The challenge is trying to figure out who/how to contact for the permit and I have brought that to the City's attention, in the meantime it is best to just call 630-CITY to try and get to the right location.

-Bob
JaxFountain.com

Bob_Johnson

June 30, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
Yesterday I spoke with Eric Lindstrom with the JEDC and he let me know that we are not completely finished with the Renovation of Friendship Fountain and Park.

Starting in the middle of September 2011 they will begin construction on a Pergola to the east side of Friendship Fountain as can be seen in the below drawing.



This should really enhance the Fountain and park even further :)

An additional "Downtown" music program will also be produced and there is also discussion regarding painting the outside wall of the Fountain and Pumphouse to match the Columns paint color, which would certainly freshen up the overall look...

I also got to see the full Christmas program last night during a test and the colors used in the program are simply awesome and below is one segment of the Christmas program I thought just ROCKED!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gST9Y2QpkPM

All of the videos from last night's test can be seen here. (Sound isn't very good as there was a lot of wind noise)
http://www.youtube.com/JaxFountain

Some pictures are located here:
http://jaxfountain.com/Gallery/Jun292011

-Bob

JaxNative68

June 30, 2011, 04:17:05 PM
pretty darn cool.  I don't remember it ever looking like that as a child.  love it!

KenFSU

June 30, 2011, 04:22:47 PM
Man, an absolutely awesome renovation just keeps getting better. I love the idea of adding a pergola, love the idea of a "downtown" themed fountain show, and love the idea of painting the outside walls of the fountain and pump house. Thanks for the update Bob.

Noone

February 05, 2012, 04:24:49 AM
Just an observation. Was at the Fountain yesterday and it was a nice crowd. Everyone getting their pictures taken and the Fountain is with out a doubt the centerpiece of Downtown. I'm walking around  the west side of the Fountain and I can't help but hear some guys commenting on the surrounding landscape and how concrete is cracked and repairs are going to have to be made and we are just 7 months into this.

I slow my cadence and wait for them to walk on and I walk up on the elevated grassy sandy patches to see what they are commenting about. I was only in the area about 15 minutes but it did make me focus on some of their comments and concerns.

We had to redo the street in front of the Landing.

tufsu1

February 05, 2012, 07:31:25 AM
to be honest noone, the roundabout in front of the Landing has changed the whole feel of that area...and making Laura two-way has helped connect downtown.....plus the southbank riverwalk is about to be redone

Noone

February 05, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
^Thats not what I'm talking about. It was an observation and just curious as to the maintenace that appears to be needing to be done and has been done. Cracks in concrete, pavers loose, I was just hearing these other guys talk about it. I'm not nit pickin. The Fountain is awesome.

The two way and roundabout has helped connect Downtown...agreed. The pavers needed to be replaced or fixed or something.

duvaldude08

February 05, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
Actually, speaking of the fountain, when is Phase Two supposed complete? I hope they dont abandon it in typical Jacksonville style.

tufsu1

February 05, 2012, 10:52:35 AM
what phase 2...you mean the riverwalk?

peestandingup

February 05, 2012, 01:28:45 PM
Are they still playing the same patriotic songs that they were doing when it opened?? I haven't been in a while, but something tells me they are. Hearing about the random maintenance issues sort of goes hand in hand with this. Meaning, aside from any major issues, they seem like they expect the fountain to just run itself. That's not to discredit Bob & the rest of the crew that worked on it. They did a hell of a job.

But it really needs some sort of planning commission that regularly changes things up, schedules events, garners public interest & overseas these general things. I know its "just a fountain", but if they want this to be the sorta center of the urban core, then its kind of important to not let it stagnate. Jax seems like it loves to do that sorta thing.

duvaldude08

February 05, 2012, 03:02:29 PM
what phase 2...you mean the riverwalk?

Im trying to remember exactly what they called it, but there were some sort of shaded walkway there were supposed to around the side of the fountain. (side side near the river), If you look at the renderings it is on there. That was supposed to be Phase two of the restore, but they still havent done it yet.

Tacachale

February 05, 2012, 03:31:07 PM
Pee, they have different programs they play through the year. Over the holidays it was a (secular) holiday theme and music. I haven't been over there since then.

dd, I believe that might have been part of the river walk restoration, if I'm thinking of the same thing you are.

BridgeTroll

February 05, 2012, 04:57:18 PM
What musical program would you prefer PSU?  Sinatra?  Hiphop? Classic rock? Perhaps a request line so we could let em know what we are feelin at any given time... :)

Ocklawaha

February 05, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
What musical program would you prefer PSU?  Sinatra?  Hiphop? Classic rock? Perhaps a request line so we could let em know what we are feelin at any given time... :)

SKYNYRD and BLACK OAK ARKANSAS!

Bativac

February 06, 2012, 07:23:36 AM
^Thats not what I'm talking about. It was an observation and just curious as to the maintenace that appears to be needing to be done and has been done. Cracks in concrete, pavers loose, I was just hearing these other guys talk about it. I'm not nit pickin. The Fountain is awesome.

The two way and roundabout has helped connect Downtown...agreed. The pavers needed to be replaced or fixed or something.

I was out at the fountain last week with out-of-town guests and noticed the loose pavers. My wife tripped on one and several of them would come right up out of the ground with little effort. Also, it was around 8:30 and there was no music, and the lights were dimmed - is this a regular thing? Or were we there on two "off nights"?

The city did a fantastic job renovating the fountain and the park. I really hope the site doesn't suffer the same lack of maintenance that every other Jacksonville improvement project seems to suffer.

Ocklawaha

February 06, 2012, 09:33:28 AM
Didn't someone post someplace that the 'show' only runs every 30 minutes or something like that? In any case, been there, done that, and it's well worth the effort. I found that there is a direct correlation between the beauty of the fountain and the amount of Rebel Yell one has ingested!

Our fountain is typical of JAXTHINK, though it IS beautiful, there is not much cutting edge about it.

Sorry to say, Medellin, Colombia's is prettier, but there is NO REASON except maybe $$ that we couldn't add this element. Frankly I'd love to see us do "screens" of water off of the Acosta Bridge with laser holograms protested against them. In short a bigger version of Medellin's fountain, gaurin-damn-teed to get the attention of every Yankee tourist passing us on I-95.

IMAGINE BRINGING A LITTLE 3RD WORLD TO JAX SOUTHBANK!

GO TO FULL SCREEN MODE, YOUR ABOUT TO BE BLOWN AWAY!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/08FbXv_1qb4?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/08FbXv_1qb4?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>
Just to rub it in a bit, the little birds are talking about the city being a wonderful place to live, look closely as they are "on" the MetroCable system. Discussion about being a city of Universities, wonderful water, great transit and, and, ...why the hell did I come back to Jacksonville? Somebody please remind me!

KenFSU

February 06, 2012, 09:41:56 AM
WHOA.

I have never seen anything like that.

Coolest thing I've seen all week.

thelakelander

February 06, 2012, 09:44:17 AM
what phase 2...you mean the riverwalk?

Im trying to remember exactly what they called it, but there were some sort of shaded walkway there were supposed to around the side of the fountain. (side side near the river), If you look at the renderings it is on there. That was supposed to be Phase two of the restore, but they still havent done it yet.

I think you're talking about the pergola with swinging benches:

duvaldude08

February 06, 2012, 10:06:58 AM
what phase 2...you mean the riverwalk?

Im trying to remember exactly what they called it, but there were some sort of shaded walkway there were supposed to around the side of the fountain. (side side near the river), If you look at the renderings it is on there. That was supposed to be Phase two of the restore, but they still havent done it yet.

I think you're talking about the pergola with swinging benches:



Yes!! OMg thank you. I had no idea what it was called. LOL

Dog Walker

February 06, 2012, 10:56:14 AM
Thanks for the video, Ock!  We hear so much Mexican and Cuban around here that it is a real pleasure to hear Colombian.

There are also some fountains that make pictures and words by interrupting multiple streams of water.  Sort of a ink jet with water.

KenFSU

February 06, 2012, 12:55:35 PM
Can anyone confirm seeing the music show running in the last month?

I've been in the area two evenings this month and have not seen it.

tufsu1

February 06, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
not sure if the music was playing, but the lights were on strong last night

Debbie Thompson

February 06, 2012, 02:21:02 PM
Now if only there were some public parking at the fountain.  If there is, we couldn't find it.  The public parking spaces that used to be there have apparently been turned over to the restaurant...all of them.  Is there any free public parking at the fountain?

tufsu1

February 06, 2012, 02:22:07 PM
the large lot next to River City is public parking, and is almost always free....and the parking alongside MOSH is also available sometimes

peestandingup

February 06, 2012, 03:35:59 PM
What musical program would you prefer PSU?  Sinatra?  Hiphop? Classic rock? Perhaps a request line so we could let em know what we are feelin at any given time... :)

You know, that actually would be pretty neat. A paid jukebox that plays the songs via the fountain.

But hey, I'd just be happy with them not playing the same 10 songs over & over & over again. It starts to wear pretty thin, no matter what genre they are (but the overly patriotic theme makes it more so. no, I'm not an american hating terrorist, but damn). That is if they're even doing music anymore (from Bativac's comments). Maybe it broke & they just didn't fix it?? That wouldn't shock me.

Look, I'm not harping on music as much as I am the "ah, whatever" attitude. And its one I've seen a lot from things like this as a whole in Jacksonville. Its the same attitude that got the fountain in the shape it was before now, as well as the same general attitude that gets houses, buildings & entire neighborhoods eaten by neglect. Yeah, I know its just music. But then the pavers, then cracks in the concrete & weeds, then people stop showing up, etc etc.

I'm just saying. If you're going to do something, do it right & keep up with it. If they're doing music, then great. But don't kill us with the same stuff over & over again. And actually make sure the thing works.

north miami

February 06, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
What musical program would you prefer PSU?  Sinatra?  Hiphop? Classic rock? Perhaps a request line so we could let em know what we are feelin at any given time... :)

How 'bout a solid dose of Zen,followed by Average White Band,Santana,Credence Clearwater,Ohio Players,Sinatra, Jean LuC Ponty......and actual JSO Radio discourse.......ending/starting with Zen

Debbie Thompson

February 07, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
the large lot next to River City is public parking, and is almost always free....and the parking alongside MOSH is also available sometimes

The large lot next to River City was charging $5 to park the day I went to the fountain, and I didn't have any cash on me.  Good to know there is sometimes free parking.
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