MANY COMPLEX PROBLEMS AND ONE SIMPLE SOLUTION
PORT AUTHORITY
Imagine the fastest growing port in the world, surrounded by 3 major railroads, 4 shortlines and 45 railroad headquarters, being captive to ONE carrier. Certainly one rail carrier is a deal killer for many major shipping companies who may be interested in getting in on the action. Imagine directors of the booming port, non-railroaders, all thinking the solution is another time-killing railroad yard. With a finite amount of money in the city, state, and federal pot, how does one fix it?
AIRPORT AUTHORITY
Imagine a solid middle tier International Airport, with highway only access, and captive regular transit buses which run on hourly headways during only certain hours. At the other end of these bus routes sits the third largest city on America's East coast. How dooes one increase not only the air traffic but make the ground transportation more frequent and much more attractive?
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY

Finally, imagine one of America's largest cities, a bus fleet that ranks third in a most popular state, and an expressway system through the central city that is going into major construction until 2017. How do the white- and blue-collar hordes make their daily trek through this morass of endless construction, when the rush hour within the various parts of the metro is already ranked as number 1, 5 and 8 in the state? Imagine this place where drivers tolerate approximately 66 Million hours a year sitting in traffic. So after the crash of the Orlando Commuter Rail deal(Sunrail), how does one fix this?
INTERCITY RAIL PASSENGER SERVICE
Imagine a one-time worlds busiest railroad station, stripped of its trains and former glory, converted into a Convention Center; albeit with with railroad tracks that pass through within a few feet of it. Another factor for consideration is the current Amtrak Station which is wholly inadequate for the currently planned passenger train services. Poorly located at the end of an alley in the far Northwest edge of the City and hardly in a welcoming setting between a truck line yard, a junk yard, and almost under a highway overpass. Jacksonville will never regain its position as the rail passenger hub of the Southeast without coming home to downtown.
CONVENTION CENTER
A major City. A big, huge, national trade city, chock full of industries, highways, rail terminals, warehouses, docks, port terminals, airports and even mega cargo airports, and they build a convention center more suited to Greenville, South Carolina; Mobile, Alabama; or Savannah, Georgia. Size must not have been a consideration because with well under 90,000 square feet, the Convention Center is good only for local parties and home, gun and antique shows. Know anyone that needs a new lawn mower? Lawn chair? BBQ grill? Have we got the facility for you to show your products! Just don't bring all of them.
Of course this article is about Jacksonville, Florida, which bills itself as "America's Logistics Center." Yet through all of this dysfunction, the city marches on, looking for, and perhaps finding, a one-size-fits-all solution to every sarcasm I just wrote.
You must understand, with one foot in South Georgia or Mayberry RFD, and the other planted firmly in the finance and industrial might of Florida, NASA, and the remarkable beaches, we often move at a slower pace. Our location alone seems to propel us forward at times when our politics seem a little too "Dukes of Hazzard," to join the modern world. As a Sunbelt City with a world class port, home of the PGA, unspoiled beaches, cutting edge medical facilities, and a Skyline split by a navigable river arguably one of the most beautiful in the world, I have faith that we are starting to see the light. Our destiny? To become a first tier international city, sometimes in spite of ourselves.
LET'S LOOK AT 5 STEPS TO A SOLUTION:
I. The Port
A. In Transportation 101 everyone learns that in order for a port to compete, it simply can't afford to become captive to a single trunk line railroad.
B. Also in the same class, we should have learned that railroad yards are old technology, time killing wastelands where cars go to sit idle, losing money for their owners. Granted a small facility simply for the pick up and consolidation of outbound traffic may make perfect sense. But anyone with a vision of another "Rice Yard," the massive Waycross, Georgia facility, get it out of your heads.
C. So the City, State and/or Federal Government is going to have to purchase the railroad tracks all along our waterfront. This would include the entire former Seaboard, Fernandina and Jacksonville, Subdivision, from Export Yard near downtown, through Springfield Yard, over the Trout River, and all trackage as far as Yulee, or even beyond Kingsland, where the old Seaboard Mainline was cut in South Georgia. This should also include both CSX and NS lines from Grand Crossing, Moncrief and Simpson Yards on the city's far west side.
D. The lease back option would seem to be the answer here. The entire municipally-owned railroad would then be leased to one of America's many shortline operators. Shortlines' shine with freight service would be much more customer driven. Light, quick, clean, frequent, and efficient operations that would still deliver the cars to the CSX, JTA and NS interchanges and probably shave the several day cross town moves of today into a few hours.
Rails everywhere but the Airport and Free Trade Zone
II. The Airport:
A link to the airport would benefit industrial facilities near the airport as well as passengers generated by the airport, hotels, retail and residential uses along Airport Road.
A. Freight to the JTA interchanges? Yes, in this plan the JTA would own two railroad lines with its own (not a lessee) operations. One of these would be a new branch line railroad that would follow the Airport Road, from the tracks near North Main, through the international trade zone and right into the airport facility. Depending on the layout of the airport terminal, it could serve any form of rail passenger equipment with a possibility of turning it on a circus or balloon track.
B. The fact that it would punch through the free trade zone, already home to many large companies would be just another opportunity to pay the construction bonds.
III. The Transportation Authority
The city owned S-Line ROW highlighted in green and shown in the images above.
A. Certainly with the death of the Sunrail project in Orlando, and the impending crash of Tri-Rail in Miami, which has not been funded anywhere close to its needs, this would need to be a carefully laid out plan. Our transportation authority would construct the line into the International Airport (JAX) on the North, and rebuild the entire former "S" line from Jacksonville Terminal to a connection with the freshly purchased Norfolk Southern track into Springfield Yard. Here it would join the former Seaboard Airline for a straight shot over the trout river and into our port, our airport, Nassau County, Yulee, or even South Georgia.
B. An extra benefit of buying and upgrading these lines is future Amtrak traffic and when the time comes for some serious High Speed Rail, this will likely be the route chosen as it was considerably shorter between Savannah and Jacksonville than the former Atlantic Coast Line.
C. Between the Jacksonville Terminal and Springfield yard JTA would have the benefit of a short passenger rail route from the station, to Shand's, Swisher, 21st Street, Panama Park, Dunn Ave, Airport Road, and the Airport. The shortline lessee would be able to access these tracks to reach an interchange with the Florida East Coast Railway at the Jacksonville Terminal.
D. The entire JTA North Commuter Rail line could then be placed in a commuter operation without the need for special or expensive deals with CSX or any other railroad. A fleet of RDC cars or Flexliner Trains would go into service as quick as stations and park and ride lots could be completed. This would be as close to a turn key deal as any city - railroad has ever had. Simple, own the track, draw lease income from the same track, pay for the Commuter Rail with freight, 100% in house. Imagine a mass transit system paid for by its own fixed plant and freight transportation income.
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The Electric 7 - A sidebar on a side track
A Useless section of the old track along the "Electric 7" city owned right-of-way, east of Springfield.
"The Electric 7" would be an operation independent of the above railroads and would still make use of old railroad track and/or right-of-way, as a light streetcar transit line. While it would cross the "S" it would not have any operation on the new terminal trackage.
There would also be reconstruction of the "S" line northward into the Gateway Shopping District and south toward A. Phillip Randolph or Beaver Streets. However these lines would be reserved for rapid streetcar using vintage or replica equipment. A single crossing of the JTA freight trackage would be required just south of the MLK Expressway.
From a useless old railroad blight through East Jax., Springfield, Brentwood to Gateway Mall, to a beautiful historic Electric Parkway shaped roughly like the number "7". Thus the new moniker: "THE ELECTRIC 7"
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IV. Intercity Rail Passenger Service
A. Amtrak has several plans, including a 5-train system on each of Florida's intra-state lines. This fast regional service would apparently include the CSX "S" line South, The CSX "A" line South, and the Florida East Coast Mainline South. There are also designs to return the Sunset limited/Gulf Wind route with promised better service, perhaps also a 5-train Gulf Coast shuttle.
North of Jacksonville we have several lines each toward Atlanta, Charlotte, Norfolk, Montgomery, Birmingham, Memphis, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, and many more attractive possible routes. So we are going to get the trains. The question is, what are we going to do with them?
B. In order to capture the lion's share of the servicing of these trains, Jaxsons need to realize the economies of breaking down trains and forwarding them to both coasts of lower Florida. Cars bound for the West being switched out, or cars on originating or terminating trains being cleaned, fueled, iced, catered, laundered. So the bottom line? When 6,500 cups of coffee are loaded on a single dining car, would you like a piece of that action? We simply must return Amtrak to the City Core and move the convention center as soon as possible. Every day we wait the more attractive Sanford, or Orlando, or Tampa, become as THE terminal for Amtrak Florida.
C. In this proposal, we go back to the recommendation of the US DOT back in 1983-85 when a national study of "Transportation Centers" was completed. It clearly stated Jacksonville Terminal needs to be reopened as a railroad and multi-modal station, with no less then 12 tracks.
D. Florida's changing politics has shifted the balance of power to Central and South Florida and suddenly the state DOT is proposing a 3 track station below the flood plain of McCoys Creek. The reasoning behind this is the Park/Lee Street Viaduct was rebuilt about 25 years ago and a bridge that once cleared 10-15 tracks now only clears two. FDOT in their infinite wisdom has suggested the 300,000 Cubic Yards of fill be removed from the old yards, which will take out the remaining pedestrian tunnels and put the whole yard below the flood plain.
Jacksonville needs to grab this bull by the horn and drag FDOT, JTA or any other agency kicking and screaming to force the rebuilding of the Lee/Park street viaduct to a level that provides for 23.5 feet of clearance on top of the historic tunnels and fill. Then force the issue of getting our full compliment of no less then 8 tracks and four platforms, plus a private car track that could hold and service office cars from any of our 45 headquartered railroads. Under no condition should anything be built in the old flood plain, and the FEC should be brought back up to grade, with the tunnel access restored below it.
V. The Convention Center

With the relocation of the courthouse, the development of a more efficient transportation center could take place.
A. By the City's own accounting, this building is woefully short on space and poorly located away from the downtown venues, hotels and clubs. As the main exhibit hall was built behind the great 1919 railroad depot, it covers all of the area once occupied by the stub tracks, and part of that once occupied by the through tracks. In fact, all of the station's original 32 tracks are gone due to this building and its parking lot to the west covering about 20 of them. We could still squeeze in some 10 to 12 tracks for Amtrak and the Florida East Coast without moving the exhibit hall, but since the hall is a white elephant and something the city itself regrets, we should get it out of the way of the transportation business.
If we could salvage the new East-West concourse area, and perhaps 1/4 to 1/3 of the northern end of the exhibit hall building, it could be easily recycled into facilities for intercity buses. This would put the JTA offices and bus station to the west in the former Railroad Post Office site. Amtrak would have the restored yard south of the 1919 Head house Station, and the restored 1890's station would become a plaza/park area.
B. There has been some discussion on moving the Convention Center down to the waterfront near the Hyatt, Jacksonville Landing, or on the Southbank. Anywhere it goes, it should be larger, and if that requires it to be vertical, then lets do it. The station would be connected to any new convention center on the northbank by our Skyway Monorail System and the planned Vintage Streetcars of the Jacksonville Traction Company and JTA.
C. Failure to get the Convention Center out of the Transportation Center would cause the future "one - stop - transit - shop" to be scattered all over LaVilla. This would not be a classic Transportation Center rather more like a Transportation neighborhood. Drinking in the Convention Center within the Jacksonville Terminal would be like drinking the tainted Kool Aid.
CONCLUSION
In summary, with a single solution, spun around the rails, our city would have:
1. A new Convention Center
2. A "new" Amtrak Terminal
3. Many more Amtrak trains then at the present time
4. Control the servicing of all Amtrak trains entering the State, catering, laundry, fuel, etc.
5. A new Bus/Skyway/Streetcar Terminal at Transportation Center
6. Transportation Center Parking Garage
7. New JTA Office Building
8. Commuter Rail Service through the heart of the historic City
9. Commuter Rail Rapid Transit into the Jacksonville International Airport
10. Streetcar lines from Gateway Plaza to Stadium to Jacksonville Terminal and beyond
11. A Port that has neutral access to 3 major rail carriers, including the FEC
12. Direct Rail freight access to our JIA International Trade Zone
13. A method to pay for the entire package via freight revenue and/or lease back
Article by Bob Mann of Jacksonville Transit Blog
http://jacksonvilletransit.blogspot.com/
Supporting images and maps by Metro Jacksonville










zoo
May 14, 2009, 07:49:36 AM"Dukes of Hazzard" politics... so true, so true.
billy
May 14, 2009, 08:26:59 AMExcellent report.
Doctor_K
May 14, 2009, 08:56:01 AMJohn Peyton = poor man's Boss Hogg? Can we call him Boss Peyton?
ralpho37
May 14, 2009, 11:40:54 AMGreat report! Not sure about the workability of some of it, but the vision of the plan is terrific. We need to get these kinds of ideas underway!
copperfiend
May 14, 2009, 12:07:03 PMI think Herb is Boss Hog. John Peyton is more like Piglet.
Shwaz
May 14, 2009, 12:29:06 PMSome really good idea's here. My question is,what is a reasonable timeline for execution of a plan like this?
Can this be operational before 2017 when the major (current) road construction projects are to be completed?
jeh1980
May 14, 2009, 01:49:13 PMI think Herb is Boss Hog. John Peyton is more like Piglet.
Ocklawaha
May 14, 2009, 02:02:14 PMCan this be operational before 2017 when the major (current) road construction projects are to be completed?
Hello Shwaz, keeping in mind the simple speed of railroad construction we could see the "Electric 7"
up and running in time for the Christmas rush, THIS YEAR. Why?? Ever hear of an old railroad trestle catching fire and burning to the water line. Within a span of 7-30 days, the trains are rolling again I've seen it done both here and in Colombia. For this same reason is why a streetcar builder will work on 3 - 5 blocks at a time / 30 - 60 days completed. Easy and Commuter rail can be done sometimes within hours. When the Loma Preita earthquake struck Los Angeles through the San Gabriel Mountains it knocked down every "free"Way interchange around. In Los Angeles the undisturbed railroads were linked to emergency management. To keep the whole Pacific Coast of the USA from disaster within hours San Francisco had offered several sets of passenger equipment, so did Amtrak, and the railroads themselves took apart the official business trains and sent out coaches from those pools. Quickly drawn from groups like MetroJacksonville.com plans surfaced for a temporary rail solution under disaster relief. Within a week Toronto and Vancouver had forwarded a fleet of 2 story and gallery cars and locomotives. Los Angeles Terminal was the base station. Southern Pacific gave up part of their own local shops. Trains ran very quickly after that, they used highway crossings for platforms "BINGO" the earthquake answered the question. People flooded the operation and LA gladly gave up the freeways for a train ride. All within a week the miracle conversion swept through from the from the San Fernando Valley to Orange County... and that's the way METROLINK was born.
(Earthquakes do not generally have much effect deep down in tunnels, so while the freeways collapsed and the railroads won back the passengers, since they run in tunnels from valley to valley throughout the LA basin. The purpose for the tunnels so there is a consistent moderate grade.)
OCKLAWAHA
Shwaz
May 14, 2009, 02:10:35 PMOck, so you're saying it gonna take an earth quake for sufficient rail action in Jacksonville
Kidding aside - your evaluation does make the plan seem more feasible.
Ocklawaha
May 14, 2009, 09:00:39 PMHonest, track work is so basic that you, 7 lesbians with leprosy, an Amazon head hunter tribe, and the alto section of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, and myself, could put it in blind folded.
Now this in no way reflects poorly on the mind blowing automation, inventions, engineering, and new toys and skills of the Gandy Dancers* of today. It simply says on one end, track is about as simple as taking a leak. Just as certain, if your looking for the all time land speed record (also held by a vehicle on rails at 7,000+ MPH) then your track might be a tad more high tech.
OCKLAWAHA
JaxNole
May 22, 2009, 11:45:22 PMOck, let's say we now have the 7 lesbians with leprosy who are more than able to complete the track work.
Do we engage Brown, Mica, et al first or finalize and polish plans before approaching them?
If you could not tell, I am becoming impatient with not capitalizing on so many opportunities. We know the circuitous route any plan takes before visible signs of progress appear, so what is the strategy?
I have so much energy I think I posted 20% of my total posts this past week. I have achieved Full Member status.
Beavis and his counterpart (possibly David and Bewler) would appreciate this milestone.
Ocklawaha
May 23, 2009, 12:21:40 AMAs I see it, we fund our streetcar plan and build 100% in house, then we can leverage that finished investment into expansion. We have to wonder why we haven't already done that with the Skyway? Take it's dollar value to the bank in order to expand it.
A goodly number of people on this board seem to think fountains, parks, flex space and tinkling water is more important. I say their not worth a damn if the richest and poorest citizen of our city can't get to them without an automobile. Gate would probably say, "But Ock, our gas moves millions of people from point A to B over our freeway system every day." To which I'll answer, "Wrong, Gate nor highways move ANYBODY from point A to B, they only move automobiles, the freeway isn't free.
Stephen: "I suppose you think no one's going to notice Jacksonville disappeared?"
Peyton: "Who's got time to wonder what happened to some ridiculous transit starved city when you're driving past at 75 m.p.h.?"
Stephen: "What are you talking about? There's no 75 mile per hour road past Jacksonville."
Peyton: "Not yet! Several months ago I had the good providence to stumble upon a plan of the city council and JTA. A construction plan of epic proportions. They're calling it, a Freeway."
Ocklawaha: "A Freeway? What the hell's a freeway?"
Peyton: "Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from Savannah to St. Augustine. Smooth, straight, fast. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past."
Ocklawaha: "So that's why you killed streetcars, the Amtrak Terminal and HSR? For this Freeway? You're kidding."
Peyton: "Of course not. You lack vision. I see a place where people get off and on the Freeway. On and off. Off and on. All day, all night. Soon where Jacksonville once stood will be a string of Gate stations. Inexpensive motels. Restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food. Tire salons. Automobile dealerships. And wonderful, wonderful bill boards reaching as far as the eye can see... My god, It'll be beautiful."
Ocklawaha: "Come on. Nobody's gonna drive this lousy Freeway when they can take the new rail system for a buck."
Peyton: "Oh, they'll drive. They'll have to. You see, I bought off the rail supporters and JTA so I could dismantle their plans." (Apologies to Roger..)
OCKLAWAHA