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Tale of the Tape:
Cleveland Pop. 2008: 433,748 (City); 2,088,291 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1836)
Jacksonville Pop. 2008: 807,815 (City); 1,313,228 (Metro) - (incorporated in 1832)
City population 1950: Jacksonville (204,517); Cleveland (914,808)
Metropolitan Area Growth rate (2000-2008)
Cleveland: -2.79%
Jacksonville: +16.97%
Urban Area Population (2000 census)
Cleveland: 1,786,647 (ranked 21 nationwide)
Jacksonville: 882,295 (ranked 43 nationwide)
Urban Area Population Density (2000 census)
Cleveland: 2,761.4 people per square mile
Jacksonville: 2,149.2 people per square mile
City Population Growth from 2000 to 2008
Cleveland: -44,655
Jacksonville: +72,312
Convention Center Exhibition Space:
Cleveland: Cleveland Convention Center (1979) - 375,000 square feet on two levels
Jacksonville: Prime F. Osborn III Convention Center (1986) - 78,500 square feet
Adjacent to Convention Center:
Cleveland: Crowne Plaza Cleveland City Centre (470 rooms)
Jacksonville: N/A
Tallest Building:
Cleveland: Key Tower - 948 feet
Jacksonville: Bank of America Tower - 617 feet
Fortune 500 companies 2009:
Cleveland: Eaton (164), Parker Hannifin (221), Sherwin-Williams (322), Key Corp (382),
Jacksonville: CSX (240), Winn-Dixie (340)
Urban infill obstacles:
Cleveland: An expressway cuts off downtown from the waterfront.
Jacksonville: State & Union Streets cut off Downtown Jacksonville from Springfield.
Downtown Nightlife:
Cleveland: 4th Street Live, Warehouse District, The Flats
Jacksonville: East Bay Street, located between Main Street and Liberty Street.
Common Downtown Albatross:
Better integration of downtown core with nearby urban neighborhoods.
Who's Downtown is more walkable?
Cleveland: 95 out of 100, according to walkscore.com (Downtown neighborhood)
Jacksonville: 88 out of 100, according to walkscore.com (Downtown neighborhood)
Top 4 Walkable Neighborhoods, according to walkscore.com
Cleveland: Downtown (95 out of 100), Ohio City (77), Detroit Shoreway (75) and University District (75)
Jacksonville: Downtown (88 out of 100), San Marco (80), Fairfax (71) and Riverside (71)
Visual Information
Green = Jacksonville's city limits (current urban core) before consolidation in 1968
Red = Jacksonville's current consolidated city-county limits
Jacksonville's current and original city limit boundaries over Cleveland's city limits (highlighted in red).
Downtown Cleveland
Downtown Cleveland is centered around Public Square and includes a wide range of diverse districts. Downtown Cleveland is home to the traditional Financial District and Civic Center, as well as the distinct Theatre District. Downtown is also home to Mixed-use neighborhoods such as the Flats and the Warehouse District, which are occupied by industrial and office buildings and also by restaurants and bars.
Erieview District (Financial District)
The Erieview District has traditionally been the heart of the office district. In fact, due to the many financial institutions along E. 9th Street (Key Bank, Amtrust Bank, National City, and Huntington Bank), this area is also referred to as the financial district of Cleveland.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/erieview.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
When it opened in 1987, the Galleria at Erieview was the first major retail venture in downtown since the 1920s. While it helped spark downtown revitalization in the 1990's, by 2005, the two-story mall had only 36 tenants out of a possible 66. Today, after the addition of Dollar Bank and Good Karma Broadcasting, the Galleria now enjoys near full occupancy.
http://www.galleriaaterieview.com/
Historic Gateway District
The Historic Gateway Neighborhood is best known for being the home to Quicken Loans Arena and Progressive Field (the home of the Cleveland Cavaliers and Indians), but the district is also home to historic arcades, several great hotels and one of the hottest entertainment districts in the city, E. 4th Street.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/gateway.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
Running east from Public Square through University Circle is Euclid Avenue, which was known for its prestige and elegance. In the late 1880's, writer Bayard Taylor described it as "the most beautiful street in the world." Known as "Millionaire's Row", Euclid Avenue was world-renowned as the home of such internationally known names as Rockefeller, Hanna, and Hay.
Along Euclid Avenue, parallel parking is free, for up to an hour.
E. 4th has quickly become one of the most entertaining districts in the city. With unique restaurants like Zocalo Mexican Tequileria and Lola, concerts at the House of Blues, comedy shows at Pickwick & Frolic or bowling at The Corner Alley, E.4th Street has something to offer every night of the week.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/gateway.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
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The Arcade in downtown Cleveland, Ohio, is a Victorian-era structure of two nine-story buildings, joined by a five-story arcade with a glass skylight spanning over 300 feet (91 m), along the four balconies. Erected in 1890, at a cost of $867,000, the Arcade opened on Memorial Day (May 31, 1890), and is identified as the first indoor shopping mall in the United States.
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In 2001, the Hyatt corporation redeveloped the Arcade into Cleveland's first Hyatt Regency hotel. The Hyatt Regency occupies the two towers and the top three floors of the atrium area. The two lower floors of the atrium area remain open to the public with retail merchants and a food court.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Arcade
Civic Center District
The Civic Center District, which stretches from the Cuyahoga River to the railroad tracks just north of City Hall, contains some of Downtown's most iconic buildings and public spaces. The center of the district, Public Square, is also the official center of Downtown Cleveland. It is home to the city's largest office towers as well as a number of statues, monuments and historic buildings.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/civiccenter.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
The large public spaces known as 'The Malls' are the center of a historic civic development known as the Group Plan of 1903. It was designed as a grand civic district for Cleveland and includes The Cuyahoga County Courthouse, Cleveland City Hall, The Cleveland Convention Center, The Cleveland Board of Education, Cleveland Public Library, and The Metzenbaum Courthouse.
North Coast District
The North Coast District, also known as the North Coast Harbor, sits on Erie’s shores and is the home to such popular destinations as Cleveland Browns Stadium, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum and the Great Lakes Science Center. While the district is primarily a tourist district, it is the home to Burke Lakefront Airport (the primary airport for smaller commuter aircraft and corporate plane) and the Port of Greater Cleveland.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/northcoast.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
The Quadrangle
The Quadrangle is home to established educational and medical institutions such as Cleveland State University, Cuyahoga County Community College’s Metro Campus, and St. Vincent Charity Hospital, but is also home to a growing community of artists that transformed old warehouses and factories into a dynamic live-work neighborhood. This eclectic mix makes The Quadrangle a unique district worthy of exploration and full of discovery.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/quadrangle.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
Theatre District
PlayhouseSquare is the center for performing arts in northeast Ohio, in fact, it is the second largest center for performing arts in the entire country! In addition to the Broadway shows, Shakespeare, Opera, plays, concerts and educational programming, PlayhouseSquare is a thriving neighborhood for technology companies and partnerships with regional schools and universities.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/cat/Neighborhood-Profiles.aspx?parent=2&pageRoot=1
Playhouse Square
Along Euclid Avenue, Playhouse Square Center is the second-largest theater complex in the country behind New York's Lincoln Center. The renovation of this complex has been called "one of the top ten successes in Cleveland history.
The Flats
Along the banks of the Cuyahoga River near the site of the city's founding lies the Flats Oxbow District. The district comprises both the east and the west banks of the Cuyahoga River. While the Flats was originally an industrial district focused on its access to the river, it has become better associated with entertainment and more recently, residential living.
Today, you can still watch everything from Great Lakes ships to small kayaks stream upriver, and those views are a main attraction for hundreds of residents living in the nearby buildings of the Stonebridge development on the West Bank. On the East Bank, one of the city’s most ambitious developments is planning to transform the former entertainment district into a thriving mixed-use development.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/flats.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
The Historic Warehouse District
This historic district used to be where many of Cleveland’s companies would house goods ready for distribution. Now, these historic warehouses have been restored and converted into apartments, condos and offices. These spaces offer some of the most dramatic historic rehab spaces in the city; they are also the perfect backdrop for what has become one of the cities strongest light life districts, with dozens of great restaurants and bars.
Since the Warehouse District represents the strongest concentration of downtown residents, the district has developed into a strong neighborhood with several coffee shops, salons, a full service grocery store and dozens of other amenities.
http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/item/warehousedistrict.aspx?p=1&cat=neighborhood-profiles&catID=37&pageRoot=1
University Circle
The Euclid Corridor BRT project directly connects Downtown Cleveland to University Circle.
Red = Subway; Green = Light Rail; Blue = Light Rail; Purple = Euclid Corridor BRT
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University Circle is the cultural, educational, and medical center of Greater Cleveland, and is located on the east side of Cleveland, Ohio. University Circle occupies approximately 550 acres (2.2 km˛) around the campus of Case Western Reserve University and the adjacent Wade Park Oval. It borders Cleveland's Little Italy, home to many private art galleries and restaurants, as well as the neighborhoods of Hough, Glenville, Buckeye-Shaker, and Fairfax (also known as Midtown).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_Circle
University Circle is a major source of employment in the Cleveland area, currently providing more than 30,000 jobs in a variety of fields. Over 13,000 undergraduate, graduate, and professional students attend area institutions, and approximately 2.5 million people visit the Circle each year. University Circle Incorporated, a not-for-profit corporation established in 1957, fulfills many administrative and quasi-governmental functions for the area, including security, transportation administration, and marketing. Nearly 50 cultural, medical, educational, religious, and social service institutions are based in the University Circle area, the largest of which is Case Western Reserve University.
Unique Cleveland
- Cleveland nicknames include "The Forest City," "The Cleve," "America's North Coast," "The Sixth City," "The Rock 'n' Roll Capitol of the World and "C-Town."
- The city's population reached its peak of 914,808, and in 1949 Cleveland was named an All-America City for the first time.
- National media began referring to Cleveland as "the mistake on the lake" around this time, in reference to the city's financial difficulties, a notorious 1969 fire on the Cuyahoga River (where industrial waste on the river's surface caught on fire), and its struggling professional sports teams.
Little Italy
Adjacent to University Circle, Little Italy was once the home of the largest Mafia organization between New York and Chicago. Today, the small urban district serves as the center of Italian culture in the Cleveland area and home to many Italian restaurants.
Ohio City
Located across the Cuyahoga River from Downtown, Ohio City was an independent municipality that was annexed by Cleveland in 1836. The focal point of the community is the historic West Side Market.
West Side Market is the city's oldest operating indoor/outdoor market space. While the market originally began in 1840, the present structure was completed in 1912.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Market
Established in 1988 and located near the West Side Market, Great Lakes Brewing Company started out as the first brewpub and microbrewery in the state of Ohio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_Brewing_Company
Shaker Heights
Shaker Heights is an inner-ring streetcar suburb of Cleveland. With Shaker Square (a historic shopping center, surrounding a rapid transit station) and a line of dense development along the rail corridor, Shaker Heights is a good example of how fixed mass transit can impact a suburb. In 1981, the Blue Line's PCC Streetcars were replaced with Breda Light Rail Vehicles.
Conclusion
From fixed-route mass transit alternatives to sustainable infill development and wayfinding signage, Cleveland is a community that has implemented many of the urban livability ideas still heavily debated and not totally accepted by Jacksonville's leadership.
Despite the region's economic woes, the areas of Cleveland heavily invested in sustainable features stand out as the most vibrant and viable areas of this Great Lake metropolis. For those doubting the power of connectivity and mass transit, a trip to Cleveland (or at least this photo article) is a must.
Article by Ennis Davis
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jeh1980
August 21, 2009, 05:02:48 AMMaybe one day, we may build a Southern Rock Hall of Fame near the St. John's River!
Hurricane
August 21, 2009, 06:20:43 AMGreat article! Vey well put together. I love the light rail system. I also like how they played around with some very modern buildings. It's too bad Cleveland is in a down fall (losing population), hopefully they move here and we can start some new construction again...
zoo
August 21, 2009, 07:49:56 AMArt, signage, use of historic fabric (structures) and the sidewalks creates a baseline of vibrancy that makes it attractive to key vibrancy element... people.
The sign ordinance needs to go, and Richard Clark should be ashamed if Art in Public Places trust goes un-managed and un-utlized.
vicupstate
August 21, 2009, 08:34:21 AMIt is truly amazing how vibrant and clean Cleveland looks. A rust-belt city has transformed itself while at the same time suffering a significant loss of population(which seems to have bottomed out). It makes Jacksonville's never-ending excuses look pretty pathetic by comparison.
thelakelander
August 21, 2009, 08:39:20 AMMany debate which one comes first, the chicken or the egg. To a degree, they have to occur at the same time. There are still rough pockets in areas of the city but it has done a decent job of recreating and putting itself in position for the 21st century. The things accomplished so far despite their economic issues really does put local excuse making to shame.
copperfiend
August 21, 2009, 08:55:23 AMI think city blew it when it came to the new baseball stadium and arena. They could have been catalysts.
copperfiend
August 21, 2009, 08:56:34 AMI've been preaching it for a long time. Imagine tying it in with a Freebird Live like they have at the beach.
Doctor_K
August 21, 2009, 09:05:42 AMThank you so much for this article. I was born and lived for a few years in Cleveland and while it's been a while since I've been there, a lot of it looks familiar. Gave me a twinge of the home-sickness. It's great to see the home town featured.
I agree with Vic and Lake in that C-Town has done a good job overall of transforming itself from a failing Rust-Belt city into something to be proud of. Jacksonville leadership can learn loads from each of the cities featured in these articles, and Cleveland is no exception.
Clevelanders are a proud bunch too - they're fiercely proud of their town and their teams... almost as intense as Pittsburgh sports fans!
Deuce
August 21, 2009, 09:19:24 AMGreat article, once again. I'm amazed with all the Elements of Urbanism articles that you guys still have major cities like Cleveland left to profile. Another year or so and you'll be profiling Kalamazoo, MI and Toledo, OH.
thelakelander
August 21, 2009, 09:25:56 AMLol, we've already done Toledo and the images for Kalamazoo were taken in early June. So its in the pipeline as well.
Clem1029
August 21, 2009, 02:31:12 PMLake, this is a fantastic profile of Cleveland...as someone like Doctor_K describes, I'm very proud of my home town, and a writeup like this shows why we can be. Cleveland is often the butt of many jokes, but it's awesome to see it through the eyes of an outsider highlighting some of the great stuff it has going on.
Few other comments:
* East 4th Street looks better than I remember it - and I thought it was amazing just a few years ago! I've said it before, but I would LOVE to find something even remotely similar here in Jacksonville!
* You managed to get pictures of 3 of my favorite restaurants in the city - Pickwick and Frolic on E 4th, Mallorca in the Warehouse District, and Great Lakes Brewing Company in Ohio City. Have a chance to partake at any of those locations?
* Speaking of Great Lakes Brewing Company - I would love to see a regional microbrewery with a restaurant and banquet facilities that wins awards after awards here in Jacksonville (I wonder if Bold City will go in that direction eventually). Buddy of mine had his bachelor party there and I was looking for a comparable place here in Jax...no dice.
* I haven't seen it in action yet, but any read on how well the Euclid Corridor BRT system works?
Finally a comment on where the city is headed...I agree that they've done a great job in the last few years of positioning themselves for the future. That said, until the region fixes it's tax policies, economic redevelopment is a bit of a pipe dream. Between the state income tax, the regional income tax, and a significant sales tax, there's very little incentive for businesses to move to Cleveland. Part of that's a state problem, but combine a punishing corporate environment to a city that sees the sun for 4 months a year, and there's a reason why the region has seen such a population loss.
TPC
August 21, 2009, 02:47:12 PMWow, another great Elements of Urbanism.
I just watched an interview with Bask and B.Askew, two artists based out of Tampa and Bask said Cleveland is where he makes most of his art sales. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLIoNmuLVTg
Deuce
August 21, 2009, 03:23:16 PMI missed the Toledo one!
avonjax
August 21, 2009, 03:23:58 PMI was thinking exactly the same thing!!!!
lewyn
August 21, 2009, 03:29:32 PMI lived in Cleveland for a year (1996-7) and this discussion seems a bit rose-colored. On the positive side, it is true that downtown was a bit less lifeless than Jacksonville's - and perhaps it is less lifeless still than it was 13 years ago.
But when I lived there, nearly everything between downtown and the city limits 6 miles out was either a marginal bohemian area (like Ohio City, which is more like Springfield than like San Marco) or was a complete ghetto.
And given the city's population losses, I find it hard to believe that most neighborhoods have actually improved since then.
How bad were things? In the late 1990s, I practiced law in Cleveland and Buffalo. In Cleveland, 4 lawyers of my firm's 60 lived in the city limits (2 downtown including me, 1 in Little Italy, 1 in another neighborhood 2 blocks from the western city limits). In much-maligned Buffalo, about 1/3 of the lawyers lived in the city (though most of them lived 2 or 3 miles out in the Buffalo equivalent of Riverside, rather than in downtown).
stephElf
August 21, 2009, 03:35:00 PMLooks awesome - I need to add this to the must-visit list!
thelakelander
August 21, 2009, 04:51:40 PMSounds like Jacksonville. If the firms you mentioned were in downtown Jacksonville, what percentage of lawyers would have lived in pre consolidated Jacksonville compared to those who would live in Argyle, Mandarin and the Southside. My guess is that the percentages would be pretty close. The difference is that Jax is consolidated with its core county while Cleveland and Buffalo are not.
thelakelander
August 21, 2009, 07:06:32 PMI made a stop at Great Lakes Brewing Company. That place is huge.
I did not ride it personally but its impressive for a BRT system. However, it should be for something that costs just as much as light rail at nearly $30 million/mile. In any event, with this project they completely rebuilt Euclid Avenue and replaced regular traffic lanes with bus only lanes.
Here are a few images of the busway that were not included in the article.
Ocklawaha
August 21, 2009, 07:55:36 PMThe press has not been very friendly to the EC nor has the driving public. Retailers are in a twist because without good auto access and with all the pavement, they have been left with fewer customers. But who knows at this point it is too early to tell. Under the rules now in the FTA the EC would not have scored high enough to be funded as a new start. Also note from inception to completion ate 10 full years, I thought BRT was the quick fix?
Bottom line for Jacksonville:
Before BRT we can catch a bus from downtown to the Avenues
After BRT we can catch a bus from downtown to the Avenues, minus a BILLION DOLLARS.
OCKLAWAHA
Fallen Buckeye
August 21, 2009, 09:13:50 PMSome random thoughts on Cleveland:
*Cleveland gets insane amounts of snow in winter because of the lake. I think it's over 100 inches a winter. Makes keeping people that much harder and I agree that state tax policies as well some national policies (NAFTA anyone?) have really hurt Cleveland's economy.
*If I remember right some of the areas the Q and what used to be Jacobs Field were kinda rough areas that have picked up in the last few years as they refurbed the sports facilities. A lot of the attractions along the lake are pretty new (built in the last 10 ten years) too like the R'n'R HOF and the Browns Stadium. Where did the money come from to do all this? They have some great stuff...and less and less people every year to use it.
*Someone made a good point about how they keep historical architecture for new uses. I remember seeing a charter school in Cleveland that had once actually been a stockyard where they would load cattle onto the freight trains to be shipped out. They had all kinds of historical pictures up of what the school used to look like for the kids to see so they could understand their community that much better.
One last thing:
Go Browns!
stjr
August 21, 2009, 11:58:06 PMHow can you talk about Cleveland and not mention one of its most powerful economic engines that is one of its biggest "tourist" draws taking up some 30 plus city blocks centered around Euclid Avenue and employing directly some 10,000 employees:
heights unknown
August 22, 2009, 01:45:22 PMNice looking "urban" city set. City also looks nice and clean from the pics taken downtown and surrounding areas, but I wonder what the rest of Cleveland looks like; does the suburbs and outlying areas close to the city limits look the same as the urban core?
In additiion, does anyone know why Cleveland has declined from major city status (top 10) in 1950 and has lost over half of its population since that time? And...it appears that Cleveland is still losing its population. Wonder why those people left and where are all of those people flighting or migrating to? Probably sunny Florida!
Though Cleveland is losing population, it appears that the city government/leaders have somewhat adjusted and the City still looks good, and is prosperous despite the population drop/loss. Population, at some point, will probably bottom out and increase in the future.
Heights Unknown
heights unknown
August 22, 2009, 01:52:22 PMMetro Jacksonville, let me take the time to commend you on these "Elements of Urbanism" threads that you periodically issue. They are extremely informative, and gets all of our minds moving relative to comparing Jax to other cities which is good for the soul. Hopefully, most of our City Leaders, including the Mayor read these threads, postings and the articles, responses, etc. so they MIGHT learn something to help and assist them to improve our City.
Heights Unknown
Clem1029
August 22, 2009, 02:58:38 PMThen you get to the outer ring suburbs, and as you would expect that's where the money is at. Bay Village, Westlake, Avon, Strongsville on the west side, Solon, Shaker Heights, Beachwood, Macedonia on the east side are about what you would expect an outer ring suburb to look like - lots of mall/strip mall shopping areas, planned residential developments (although nothing on the scale of a "Plantation" planned development that we see here).
So basically, you've got a city with a seriously well-redeveloped downtown with most of the money in the outer ring...and an inner ring that's hurting big time.
As for why the population fell off, there's a ton of factors that go into this. First and foremost was the collapse of the steel industry. Cleveland was heavily a manufacturing town - when the industry collapsed, the jobs disappeared. Add that into a major tax burden that I mentioned previously, and it's been tough getting 21st century jobs to come to town. So you couple a city that has a tough time showing college grads it have they jobs they're looking for, with a reputation of being the last place you possibly want to go, and it's tough to make the city grow.
(Although, a side note here...I remember reading somewhere that the Cleveland area is one of the places that more people return to after having moved away than anywhere else...or at least among the top in that category. And I can understand there...if you haven't picked up a serious bit of nostalgia and stuff I miss about that town, especially compared to Jax, then you haven't been paying attention.
And yes...we come to sunny Florida. If there's one thing deceiving about those pictures is that Lake just about got the most perfect summer day to take them. I guarantee you the reaction to those same pictures would be a whole lot less positive if they were taken in January.
One other note - don't give Cleveland politicians (at the city or county level) too much credit here...much of the city's success is in spite of them, not because of them. Cleveland and Cuyahoga County could give a lot of places a run for their money on corruption and incompetence problems.
thelakelander
August 22, 2009, 03:02:06 PMBecause we need others like you to fill in the gaps and keep the story going.
That's the beauty of the website.
While the main article may not go into detail on every asset each community offers, the story continues to evolve as readers add dialogue and information to the discussion. In the end, we all come out knowing a little more that before. Keep it up.
stjr
August 22, 2009, 03:10:38 PMAlright, Lake, I am happy to oblige. Here is another comment: Once again, we seem to see much wider sidewalks than in Jax. I am mostly convinced we need to factor in wider sidewalks as we redevelop areas of Jax. If you don't plan for larger numbers of pedestrians, you won't get them. It's a self fulling prophecy IMHO.
heights unknown
August 22, 2009, 07:29:27 PMWow...thanks "clem" for educating me on Cleveland; it's best to hear the "real deal" from the horses mouth rather than digging around on the internet. "Shades of Detroit" is how I best see Cleveland from what I have read. The only difference is the steel industry in Cleveland and the auto industry in Detroit; but the great loss of population and flight is real in both cities due to the decline and decimation of those industries respective to both cities; great similarities between those two cities.
Clem1029
August 22, 2009, 08:42:06 PMWith all that said, echoing Fallen Buckeye...I could care less about Detroit, but Go Browns and *bleep* Pittsburgh!
tufsu1
December 10, 2009, 11:22:22 AMmaybe the BRT corridor is spurring development
http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/11/clevelands_euclid_corridor_pro.html
Ernest Street
January 14, 2010, 01:25:49 PMI was born in Lakewood.The Food can't even begin to be compared to Jax's selection. (Sysco?)
When ethnic groups are still proud of their roots, they still cook,and sell (also import) their traditional foods Fresh each and every day.
Did anyone look closely at the selection just in Westside Market? Do we sell meats and Ethnic/regional delicacies along side produce?
And no..I'm not going back. The sky is leaden gray six months out of the year...